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This was posted on reddit, but I didn't see i there.
Original post is by /u/skadiskadi.
Original post is here
Original article here
Q. Please introduce yourself.
A. Hello, My name is David Kim who takes on SC2 league and multiplayer design.
Q. Dark's baneling builds is so op. Do you prepare patch only from match with pros?
A. I made a patch not only pros but also ordinary user's play. Dark's strategy is new, so it is hard to determine. New strategy always be powerful, hence it takes to time to respond. I'm watching this build and I will decide later.
Q. Zerg and terran's ground unit become powerful, keeping colossus in current status is right?
A. What we intended first was colossus could be used in users' level, but in pros level colossus may compete with disruptors. Actually, colossus in hots or wol was too strong, so there was no difference in pros' and users' level. However, I agree with the nerf was too much. If we buff colossus, there will be a small buff but not a rollback. We want to make colossus to be used regularly but ground splash unit position should be taken to disruptors. However, we can't buff colossus now because protoss is not weak now.
Q. Maru's only liberator build in TvZ was too strong, and nobody seems to win against that build. Also, even before liberator comes out, terran is also strong. Do you think balance in TvZ is appropriate?
A. If only liberator build is too strong, I'm absolutely sure there should be nerf. Even not strong as you think, if liberator always be key part of army, this also should be changed. If opponent can't defend and counter only one unit build, nerf must be needed. We tested the solution at balance test map, also are thinking about reworking thor to take up the slack.
Q. There is a voice which breaks balance in TvZ, one of major reason of balance breaking is reducing the number of larva injected from queen. Are you keeping this status?
A. Not only nerf larva, there was a nerf of other race's macro such as mule, chrono boost. In this situation, we can't hardly tell the larva nerf is the reason of balance. 'Siege Tank + Medivac' is powerful to TvZ and liberator is hard to stop without Ravager. We should be cautious about larva buff even zerg has a hard time now, because this could change PvZ. I think we need to decide who needs buff or nerf exactly then finding solution should be next in this situation.
Q. TvT always be 'Siege Tank + Medivac' combat. You tried to change this aspect through balance test map, do you have same opinion now?
A. First of all, we decide that we don't need to change now. At first, why we decided to change that aspect was there was a problem as a variation, whereas there was many feedback like "why do you nerf 'Siege Tank + Medivac'? It is so fun!" I think 'Siege Tank + Medivac' have a problem in variation, but if players love this, we put this aside now and solve the problem later when it arise as a huge problem. I'm sure that this aspect will be a huge problem if it repeats and seems to be never changed. We are going to prepare to fix the problem when it emerge to the surface, but this is not a huge problem now.
Q. there was huge debate around zerg balance, I want your opinion about zerg.
A. I think ZvP is most hard to make balance. Feedback always goes extreme. Foreign community says protoss can't beat zerg, Korean pros says zerg can't beat protoss so immortals nerf should be needed. Sometimes I feel I'm not sure what to do, but at last week, we started to test adding +bio damage to photon cannon. In pros, mutalisks are not used often, but in ordinary users level, mutalisks may be a problem. So we wanted not to affect this patch to pro level. I think we need to decide this kind of problem correctly.
Q. What kind of race vs race (종족전, hard to translate) well balanced as your opinion?
A. It is hard to tell now. It haven't been long time after launching lotv, gamers are studying various strategy now. Even balance may be good this week, in next week it could be worse. I think accepting instant feedback and applying this to game is important.
Q. One of major complaint from korean players is "Blizzard only accept feedback from NA/EU players who have bad skilled players, so game become weird". Is feedback from korean players lower than from NA/EU? or rate of reflection of feedback from NA/EU is major?
A. We also heard same complaint from foreign players. Korean pros complain about why Blizzard heard voice only from foreign pros, and Foreign complain about same thing(only from Korean pros). We can't take sides. We hear all voices from pros from Korea, NA, and ordinary users, so we agree that all players have same thought. For example from last balance test map, thor and liberator is from Korean feedback and +bio damage to photon cannon was from ordinary user level. WE DON'T TAKE SIDES.
Q. There have been 5 months from last balance patch, even you test balance test map so long time. Do you have a plan of balance patch and when balance patch comes out?
A. First of all, I want to explain why balance test patch isn't coming out. We are looking the situation rather than hasty patch. Direct change of balance should be come out as possible as we can when most needed. I think this is good timing to patch. I was going to patch next week, but Dreamhack Austin will be held next week. We are discussing time of patch, before Dreamhack or after dreamhack. If we patch at start of next week, we patch as current balance test map but will remove the changes of banshee.
Q. What do you think most important things in next balance patch?
A. First of all, this week's balance test map shows my thought. If you see balance test map updated every week, you may realize the point. Currently, we are interested in swarm host buff, changes of liberator and thor.
Q. Please say last words to Korean fans.
A. Recently, Korean users didn't get translation of sc2 update. It was a mistake. Korean fans became angry saying "Now, you are not going to communicate with us!", but we want to say that we are sorry for that. I think Korea is most easiest region to gather feedback. We think communication between fans and adjusting balancing direction is most important thing, so please give us feedback as much as you can.
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So he doesn't want to change tankivacs because players love it. Ahahahaha nice excuse DK.
the questions are horrible btw who did this interview?
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We also heard same complaint from foreign players. Korean pros complain about why Blizzard heard voice only from foreign pros, and Foreign complain about same thing(only from Korean pros). We can't take sides. We hear all voices from pros from Korea, NA, and ordinary users, so we agree that all players have same thought. For example from last balance test map, thor and liberator is from Korean feedback and +bio damage to photon cannon was from ordinary user level. WE DON'T TAKE SIDES.
Foreign community says protoss can't beat zerg, Korean pros says zerg can't beat protoss so immortals nerf should be needed.
This is the very politically correct answer, and to be honest I don't what else he could reasonably answer.
Nevertheless, I hope it's not entirely true, because, at the moment, foreign pros still have a lot of things to improve in mechanics and decision making which makes actual balance issues totally minors when it come to explain the ZvP winrates.
Back in the days, you had people like Thorzain and Stephano who were strong enough to proove imbalances and influence the design team, I don't think many foreigners are able to do this nowadays.
On the other hand, Korea has some monster protosses atm, plus one titan in Zest, and these guys don't really need any help.
To sum up, it's ok to listen to foreign protosses when they say ZvP is imba, but I hope Blizzard keeps in mind 80% of their problems come from skills. Having a lot of Z in foreign scene is ok if the top Korean remains balanced, but breaking Top Korean balance just to allow more foreign protosses in DreamHacks will only lead to big issues.
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Terrible interview in my opininion.
Terrible questions (Maru's only liberator build in TvZ was too strong, and nobody seems to win against that build, when Maru did that build only once from what i recall, and the same day TY tried something similar but lost) and terrible answers, players do love tankivac? Not all of them, and most of all he keeps ignoring the fact that TvT is same composition every match. No variation.
I seriously doubt he takes feedbacks from normal ladder players, because a lot of them keep saying that the game is too fast and too focused on harrass, but not a single word about it has come from Blizzard's side.
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On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
the questions are horrible btw who did this interview?
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Well the questions went though translation process, so don't pay attention to their tone. aside from this, they seemed quite interesting to me.
On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
So he doesn't want to change tankivacs because players love it. Ahahahaha nice excuse DK..
Yeah I know, why the fuck is he listening to the community? It's totally not what he's been asked to do for over 4 years....
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On April 28 2016 22:32 Temporary Happiness wrote:
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I seriously doubt he takes feedbacks from normal ladder players, because a lot of them keep saying that the game is too fast and too focused on harrass, but not a single word about it has come from Blizzard's side.
Dude, he did propose to make the game slower for lower leagues, but everybody seemed to hate this idea.
So normal ladder players don't really seem to share your opinion...
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If only liberator build is too strong, I'm absolutely sure there should be nerf
'Siege Tank + Medivac' is powerful to TvZ
I hope that this not means that they will nerf terran..
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Keep in mind this was translated from Korean. Don't infer anything from tone.
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On April 28 2016 22:29 Gwavajuice wrote:
To sum up, it's ok to listen to foreign protosses when they say ZvP is imba, but I hope Blizzard keeps in mind 80% of their problems come from skills. Having a lot of Z in foreign scene is ok if the top Korean remains balanced, but breaking Top Korean balance just to allow more foreign protosses in DreamHacks will only lead to big issues.
true.
i hope DK insures the game is balanced at the very top level and ignores or puts little weight to the complaints of foreign protosses and foreign terrans.
for me zerg is the easiest race to play.
i play all 3 races and Zerg is always my highest ranked race even though i put far less time into it than the other 2 races. it comes down to my APM just not being good enough.
if i were complaining DK shouldn't listen to me either.
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I won't blame him about medank.He ignores medank and disruptor because the community.Don't say this community is innocent LUL.....
And i believe we have another situation like that.Its PvZ.
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On April 28 2016 22:34 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
the questions are horrible btw who did this interview?
. Well the questions went though translation process, so don't pay attention to their tone. aside from this, they seemed quite interesting to me. Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
So he doesn't want to change tankivacs because players love it. Ahahahaha nice excuse DK.. Yeah I know, why the fuck is he listening to the community? It's totally not what he's been asked to do for over 4 years....
I haven't heard a single player say that tankivacs are fun, the only people who like it are spectators.
But let's just assume pro players really like them, why is DK suddenly listening to them? Pro players also want a good mappool but DK doesn't give that either.
I don't believe for a second he really considered removing tankivacs and now he's just cherry-picking feedback to fit his agenda
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On April 28 2016 23:09 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 22:34 Gwavajuice wrote:On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
the questions are horrible btw who did this interview?
. Well the questions went though translation process, so don't pay attention to their tone. aside from this, they seemed quite interesting to me. On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
So he doesn't want to change tankivacs because players love it. Ahahahaha nice excuse DK.. Yeah I know, why the fuck is he listening to the community? It's totally not what he's been asked to do for over 4 years.... I haven't heard a single player say that tankivacs are fun, the only people who like it are spectators. But let's just assume pro players really like them, why is DK suddenly listening to them? Pro players also want a good mappool but DK doesn't give that either. I don't believe for a second he really considered removing tankivacs and now he's just cherry-picking feedback to fit his agenda
yeah because every morning when he wakes up, his first thought is "Hmm how will I ruin the game and make players angry today?"
I don't mean to be DK's attorney, but at least try to come up with stuff that makes some kind of sense...
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On April 28 2016 23:09 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 22:34 Gwavajuice wrote:On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
the questions are horrible btw who did this interview?
. Well the questions went though translation process, so don't pay attention to their tone. aside from this, they seemed quite interesting to me. On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
So he doesn't want to change tankivacs because players love it. Ahahahaha nice excuse DK.. Yeah I know, why the fuck is he listening to the community? It's totally not what he's been asked to do for over 4 years.... I haven't heard a single player say that tankivacs are fun, the only people who like it are spectators. But let's just assume pro players really like them, why is DK suddenly listening to them? Pro players also want a good mappool but DK doesn't give that either. I don't believe for a second he really considered removing tankivacs and now he's just cherry-picking feedback to fit his agenda
because NASA was caught lying about how it spent a couple million of its budget 3 years ago the earth must be flat.
Tankivacs are fun.
you've now heard from a single player that Tankivacs are fun.
what is "DKs Agenda" ? the secret formation of the nwo?.. or could it be to sell as many copies of SC2 as possible? hmmm. i'll wager his contract is laden with incentives and bonuses tied to sales totals.
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Dude, he did propose to make the game slower for lower leagues, but everybody seemed to hate this idea.
So normal ladder players don't really seem to share your opinion...
Of course, because that idea is a very bad bandaid and not a fix at all. Normal players do share my opinion, thats why they quit.
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On April 28 2016 23:15 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 23:09 Charoisaur wrote:On April 28 2016 22:34 Gwavajuice wrote:On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
the questions are horrible btw who did this interview?
. Well the questions went though translation process, so don't pay attention to their tone. aside from this, they seemed quite interesting to me. On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
So he doesn't want to change tankivacs because players love it. Ahahahaha nice excuse DK.. Yeah I know, why the fuck is he listening to the community? It's totally not what he's been asked to do for over 4 years.... I haven't heard a single player say that tankivacs are fun, the only people who like it are spectators. But let's just assume pro players really like them, why is DK suddenly listening to them? Pro players also want a good mappool but DK doesn't give that either. I don't believe for a second he really considered removing tankivacs and now he's just cherry-picking feedback to fit his agenda yeah because every morning when he wakes up, his first thought is "Hmm how will I ruin the game and make players angry today?" I don't mean to be DK's attorney, but at least try to come up with stuff that makes some kind of sense...
no but he wants to change the game how he wants it and not how the players want it
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However, we can't buff colossus now because protoss is not weak now
In pros, mutalisks are not used often, but in ordinary users level, mutalisks may be a problem. So we wanted not to affect this patch to pro level
"Ordinary users level" - I think this is completely backwards, any imbalance or lack of available playstyles is magnified at the highest level of play.
I think there is a big mistake here in assuming that because mutalisks are not used often, they are not affecting the matchup.
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On April 28 2016 22:43 Tuckleberry wrote:Show nested quote +If only liberator build is too strong, I'm absolutely sure there should be nerf I hope that this not means that they will nerf terran..
I hope it does
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On April 28 2016 23:29 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 23:15 Gwavajuice wrote:On April 28 2016 23:09 Charoisaur wrote:On April 28 2016 22:34 Gwavajuice wrote:On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
the questions are horrible btw who did this interview?
. Well the questions went though translation process, so don't pay attention to their tone. aside from this, they seemed quite interesting to me. On April 28 2016 22:20 Charoisaur wrote:
So he doesn't want to change tankivacs because players love it. Ahahahaha nice excuse DK.. Yeah I know, why the fuck is he listening to the community? It's totally not what he's been asked to do for over 4 years.... I haven't heard a single player say that tankivacs are fun, the only people who like it are spectators. But let's just assume pro players really like them, why is DK suddenly listening to them? Pro players also want a good mappool but DK doesn't give that either. I don't believe for a second he really considered removing tankivacs and now he's just cherry-picking feedback to fit his agenda yeah because every morning when he wakes up, his first thought is "Hmm how will I ruin the game and make players angry today?" I don't mean to be DK's attorney, but at least try to come up with stuff that makes some kind of sense... no but he wants to change the game how he wants it and not how the players want it
don't speak for me.
"every voice matters"
i doubt you have the world wide perspective on player feedback that DK has
try listening to people in Korea, Brazil and North America whose opinion varies from yours... you might be surprised what you hear.
that said, i hope he balances the game for the top level of play and forces lesser players to accept lower ladder ranks for certain races if they multi-race like i do.
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Any VODs of this Dark's baneling build games?
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