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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 11 2016 22:31 GMT
#101
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
Form is temporary, class is permanent.


Can someone explain me why this line is so loved by everyone. Like, you can be a S Class player but if you are not in form then any average player can beat you. Thus I think Class won't make you win tournaments but Form will.

I might not be grasping the concept of Class.... ???
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 22:38:57
February 11 2016 22:32 GMT
#102
On February 12 2016 07:31 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
Form is temporary, class is permanent.


Can someone explain me why this line is so loved by everyone. Like, you can be a S Class player but if you are not in form then any average player can beat you. Thus I think Class won't make you win tournaments but Form will.

I might not be grasping the concept of Class.... ???


The presence and distinction of class, separating one from the class of their fellow competitors, regardless of their form, suggests the ever present capacity to demonstrate a level of form which others, lacking that same degree of class, cannot ever be relied upon to demonstrate, as there is no precedent for it in their career to date.

It is people who under appreciate this who are surprised when those of the highest class continue to maintain or return to the highest of form. Frankly, there is no more basic and narrow appraisal of a player than to appreciate simply, and only, their most recent or current form. For a people who account for only this data to condescend the appraisal of others, who, let's be honest, is just as likely to include this very same data, first and foremost - is to embarrass oneself by way of an obvious oversight and will to assume a lack of intelligence in their fellow community members and conversation holders.
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stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 22:38:00
February 11 2016 22:35 GMT
#103
Stork's group definitely could have been worse! I also agree that group B was a close second to a "group of death," though there certainly isn't a true one anyway.
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity" -maximus decimus meridius
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 22:41:42
February 11 2016 22:40 GMT
#104
On February 12 2016 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
On February 12 2016 00:05 RKC wrote:
On February 11 2016 22:02 opisska wrote:
Yeah, surely, A and H are groups of death ... the death of common sense when it comes to evaluating TL players on TL.


Yeah, seriously, so much TL and emotional bias. Taeja and HerO haven't proven themselves yet in LotV and were in the wilderness in 2015. DRG is another sentimental favourite that isn't top-notch.

Group B and G are arguably deadlier. Dark and aLive are all proven players in LotV. herO and Dream haven't lost much of their momentum from HoTS 2015 (as opposed to, say, Inno). Losira and Leenock have been rather impressive too.

I said 'arguably', because I can still understand people voting objectively for Groups A and H. But such lopsided results? Meh... nothing but bias.

(Between the 4 groups, I would rate the deadliness in such order: G-B-H-A)

Not being bitter here, just that this reaffirms my belief that the opinions of TL writers and posters (expressed here and elsewhere) can lack objectivity. Then again, it's no different from any sports fan community. It's normal to be bias


Form is temporary, class is permanent. I believe that you under appreciate this sentiment.

Sry i forgot about the gsls Taeja and Hero won, you are right


You apparently also forgot about all the tournaments they did win

No i did not, but in a gsl style format they never did too well. Who cares about their results in weekend tournament with lesser competition when we talk about gsl?


I love when people bring up "lesser" competition. Look at Taeja's record vs the best players in the world. He's winning head to head against pretty much everyone. Both HerO and Taeja made semifinals of GSLs (Taeja 3 times iirc?). So yeah. They were pretty fucking good.
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stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 22:43:12
February 11 2016 22:41 GMT
#105
On February 11 2016 18:08 sashkata wrote:
Stork got an easy group, but I don't want to get my hopes up. It would be so sick if he makes it though.


Never get your hopes up with Stork, haha. I hate to say it, but no pro-gamer has disappointed me more than Stork!

*Though JD is definitely fighting for the title these days!
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity" -maximus decimus meridius
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 23:05:11
February 11 2016 22:57 GMT
#106
On February 12 2016 07:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
On February 12 2016 00:05 RKC wrote:
On February 11 2016 22:02 opisska wrote:
Yeah, surely, A and H are groups of death ... the death of common sense when it comes to evaluating TL players on TL.


Yeah, seriously, so much TL and emotional bias. Taeja and HerO haven't proven themselves yet in LotV and were in the wilderness in 2015. DRG is another sentimental favourite that isn't top-notch.

Group B and G are arguably deadlier. Dark and aLive are all proven players in LotV. herO and Dream haven't lost much of their momentum from HoTS 2015 (as opposed to, say, Inno). Losira and Leenock have been rather impressive too.

I said 'arguably', because I can still understand people voting objectively for Groups A and H. But such lopsided results? Meh... nothing but bias.

(Between the 4 groups, I would rate the deadliness in such order: G-B-H-A)

Not being bitter here, just that this reaffirms my belief that the opinions of TL writers and posters (expressed here and elsewhere) can lack objectivity. Then again, it's no different from any sports fan community. It's normal to be bias


Form is temporary, class is permanent. I believe that you under appreciate this sentiment.

Sry i forgot about the gsls Taeja and Hero won, you are right


You apparently also forgot about all the tournaments they did win

No i did not, but in a gsl style format they never did too well. Who cares about their results in weekend tournament with lesser competition when we talk about gsl?


I love when people bring up "lesser" competition. Look at Taeja's record vs the best players in the world. He's winning head to head against pretty much everyone. Both HerO and Taeja made semifinals of GSLs (Taeja 3 times iirc?). So yeah. They were pretty fucking good.

Lesser competition because at weekend tournaments you only have a handful of really good players each time. Sure he did beat code s players to win these tournaments, but in code s you would need to do that every single round, not 1-2 times per tournament. That is the difference when people talk about "lesser competition"
The format is obviously different as well, but that's another topic.

Three semi finals is surely pretty good though, i can give you that. Still, historically Taeja did't do too well in gsl style formats, especially when we compare it to his weekend success. There are multiple reasons why.

On February 12 2016 07:32 Lumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:31 Silvana wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
Form is temporary, class is permanent.


Can someone explain me why this line is so loved by everyone. Like, you can be a S Class player but if you are not in form then any average player can beat you. Thus I think Class won't make you win tournaments but Form will.

I might not be grasping the concept of Class.... ???


The presence and distinction of class, separating one from the class of their fellow competitors, regardless of their form, suggests the ever present capacity to demonstrate a level of form which others, lacking that same degree of class, cannot ever be relied upon to demonstrate, as there is no precedent for it in their career to date.

It is people who under appreciate this who are surprised when those of the highest class continue to maintain or return to the highest of form. Frankly, there is no more basic and narrow appraisal of a player than to appreciate simply, and only, their most recent or current form. For a people who account for only this data to condescend the appraisal of others, who, let's be honest, is just as likely to include this very same data, first and foremost - is to embarrass oneself by way of an obvious oversight and will to assume a lack of intelligence in their fellow community members and conversation holders.

You talk so much and say so little. You also miss the point completely, nobody here is denying "class", "class" is the reason i still believe JD could do well if he would join a kespa team or i still believe that Zest will win more korean titles.
The point is that Taeja is historically not the championship contender for gsl style tournaments. I simply think the stronger competition in code s (in comparison to weekend tournaments) AND the format (preparation is important) are enough to say that Taeja is in this context probably not one of the best players. His success in Dreamhacks still matter somewhat, but not enough to value him higher imo.
Feel free to disagree, Taeja fans always do.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 23:02:05
February 11 2016 22:57 GMT
#107
HerO vs Taeja GSL finals, I'm calling it right now.

I totally agree. I mean, look at every single WCS regular season ever for Taeja. He consistently gets to to the high levels, but he also consistently is knocked out.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-11 23:05:33
February 11 2016 23:04 GMT
#108
the quote button -.-
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
February 11 2016 23:15 GMT
#109
On February 12 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
On February 12 2016 00:05 RKC wrote:
On February 11 2016 22:02 opisska wrote:
Yeah, surely, A and H are groups of death ... the death of common sense when it comes to evaluating TL players on TL.


Yeah, seriously, so much TL and emotional bias. Taeja and HerO haven't proven themselves yet in LotV and were in the wilderness in 2015. DRG is another sentimental favourite that isn't top-notch.

Group B and G are arguably deadlier. Dark and aLive are all proven players in LotV. herO and Dream haven't lost much of their momentum from HoTS 2015 (as opposed to, say, Inno). Losira and Leenock have been rather impressive too.

I said 'arguably', because I can still understand people voting objectively for Groups A and H. But such lopsided results? Meh... nothing but bias.

(Between the 4 groups, I would rate the deadliness in such order: G-B-H-A)

Not being bitter here, just that this reaffirms my belief that the opinions of TL writers and posters (expressed here and elsewhere) can lack objectivity. Then again, it's no different from any sports fan community. It's normal to be bias


Form is temporary, class is permanent. I believe that you under appreciate this sentiment.

Sry i forgot about the gsls Taeja and Hero won, you are right


You apparently also forgot about all the tournaments they did win

No i did not, but in a gsl style format they never did too well. Who cares about their results in weekend tournament with lesser competition when we talk about gsl?


I love when people bring up "lesser" competition. Look at Taeja's record vs the best players in the world. He's winning head to head against pretty much everyone. Both HerO and Taeja made semifinals of GSLs (Taeja 3 times iirc?). So yeah. They were pretty fucking good.

Lesser competition because at weekend tournaments you only have a handful of really good players each time. Sure he did beat code s players to win these tournaments, but in code s you would need to do that every single round, not 1-2 times per tournament. That is the difference when people talk about "lesser competition"
The format is obviously different as well, but that's another topic.

Three semi finals is surely pretty good though, i can give you that. Still, historically Taeja did't do too well in gsl style formats, especially when we compare it to his weekend success. There are multiple reasons why.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:32 Lumi wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:31 Silvana wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
Form is temporary, class is permanent.


Can someone explain me why this line is so loved by everyone. Like, you can be a S Class player but if you are not in form then any average player can beat you. Thus I think Class won't make you win tournaments but Form will.

I might not be grasping the concept of Class.... ???


The presence and distinction of class, separating one from the class of their fellow competitors, regardless of their form, suggests the ever present capacity to demonstrate a level of form which others, lacking that same degree of class, cannot ever be relied upon to demonstrate, as there is no precedent for it in their career to date.

It is people who under appreciate this who are surprised when those of the highest class continue to maintain or return to the highest of form. Frankly, there is no more basic and narrow appraisal of a player than to appreciate simply, and only, their most recent or current form. For a people who account for only this data to condescend the appraisal of others, who, let's be honest, is just as likely to include this very same data, first and foremost - is to embarrass oneself by way of an obvious oversight and will to assume a lack of intelligence in their fellow community members and conversation holders.

You talk so much and say so little. You also miss the point completely, nobody here is denying "class", "class" is the reason i still believe JD could do well if he would join a kespa team or i still believe that Zest will win more korean titles.
The point is that Taeja is historically not the championship contender for gsl style tournaments. I simply think the stronger competition in code s (in comparison to weekend tournaments) AND the format (preparation is important) are enough to say that Taeja is in this context probably not one of the best players. His success in Dreamhacks still matter somewhat, but not enough to value him higher imo.
Feel free to disagree, Taeja fans always do.


I am not a Taeja fan, can I disagree? :\
Tbh tho, lotv is still new so taeja might come with a build that no one can stop for months. Idk, but without life, sOs, maru, rain, stats etc, in code s, he really has a chance
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 00:36:34
February 12 2016 00:34 GMT
#110
On February 12 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
On February 12 2016 00:05 RKC wrote:
On February 11 2016 22:02 opisska wrote:
Yeah, surely, A and H are groups of death ... the death of common sense when it comes to evaluating TL players on TL.


Yeah, seriously, so much TL and emotional bias. Taeja and HerO haven't proven themselves yet in LotV and were in the wilderness in 2015. DRG is another sentimental favourite that isn't top-notch.

Group B and G are arguably deadlier. Dark and aLive are all proven players in LotV. herO and Dream haven't lost much of their momentum from HoTS 2015 (as opposed to, say, Inno). Losira and Leenock have been rather impressive too.

I said 'arguably', because I can still understand people voting objectively for Groups A and H. But such lopsided results? Meh... nothing but bias.

(Between the 4 groups, I would rate the deadliness in such order: G-B-H-A)

Not being bitter here, just that this reaffirms my belief that the opinions of TL writers and posters (expressed here and elsewhere) can lack objectivity. Then again, it's no different from any sports fan community. It's normal to be bias


Form is temporary, class is permanent. I believe that you under appreciate this sentiment.

Sry i forgot about the gsls Taeja and Hero won, you are right


You apparently also forgot about all the tournaments they did win

No i did not, but in a gsl style format they never did too well. Who cares about their results in weekend tournament with lesser competition when we talk about gsl?


I love when people bring up "lesser" competition. Look at Taeja's record vs the best players in the world. He's winning head to head against pretty much everyone. Both HerO and Taeja made semifinals of GSLs (Taeja 3 times iirc?). So yeah. They were pretty fucking good.

Lesser competition because at weekend tournaments you only have a handful of really good players each time. Sure he did beat code s players to win these tournaments, but in code s you would need to do that every single round, not 1-2 times per tournament. That is the difference when people talk about "lesser competition"
The format is obviously different as well, but that's another topic.

Three semi finals is surely pretty good though, i can give you that. Still, historically Taeja did't do too well in gsl style formats, especially when we compare it to his weekend success. There are multiple reasons why.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:32 Lumi wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:31 Silvana wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
Form is temporary, class is permanent.


Can someone explain me why this line is so loved by everyone. Like, you can be a S Class player but if you are not in form then any average player can beat you. Thus I think Class won't make you win tournaments but Form will.

I might not be grasping the concept of Class.... ???


The presence and distinction of class, separating one from the class of their fellow competitors, regardless of their form, suggests the ever present capacity to demonstrate a level of form which others, lacking that same degree of class, cannot ever be relied upon to demonstrate, as there is no precedent for it in their career to date.

It is people who under appreciate this who are surprised when those of the highest class continue to maintain or return to the highest of form. Frankly, there is no more basic and narrow appraisal of a player than to appreciate simply, and only, their most recent or current form. For a people who account for only this data to condescend the appraisal of others, who, let's be honest, is just as likely to include this very same data, first and foremost - is to embarrass oneself by way of an obvious oversight and will to assume a lack of intelligence in their fellow community members and conversation holders.

You talk so much and say so little.


I honestly cannot understand why you would begin a reply with this, and then put additional effort into communicating at my face, as though anyone, with any integrity, any life at all, would continue to give you the time of day. Does your love life not prompt you to examine your flagrantly unsavorable personality, unprovoked except by dissenting views over a video game? Must total strangers have to point this out to you? I'm afraid that you don't know how any of this works. I'm the fool for feeding what was an upfront lack of character all the time of day that I have. I promise, I won't be coming back to this thread to read whatever it is that you think and feel, which I could never begin to care about again
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zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
February 12 2016 00:49 GMT
#111
well the competition is so hard even sos inno maru couldnt make it
TY my boy gogo
kagamin
Profile Joined September 2010
United States191 Posts
February 12 2016 05:18 GMT
#112
Losira and Leenock both in, I'm happy.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 12 2016 05:29 GMT
#113
On February 12 2016 07:31 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:16 Lumi wrote:
Form is temporary, class is permanent.


Can someone explain me why this line is so loved by everyone. Like, you can be a S Class player but if you are not in form then any average player can beat you. Thus I think Class won't make you win tournaments but Form will.

I might not be grasping the concept of Class.... ???


It's basically what Taeja fans say to try pretend he's still relevant.
KonanTenshi
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden210 Posts
February 12 2016 05:53 GMT
#114
I call fake, no mandatory TL teamkill.
Curious
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
February 12 2016 06:12 GMT
#115
On February 12 2016 14:53 KonanTenshi wrote:
I call fake, no mandatory TL teamkill.


Don't worry, if they both somehow make it into the ro16 then Afreeca will force them to pick each other
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Hurricaned
Profile Joined October 2011
France126 Posts
February 12 2016 09:09 GMT
#116
Not super excited for this ro32 but with all those big names missing (mari,Life,sos) that was somewhat expected. Still, group g could be very good
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
February 12 2016 14:58 GMT
#117
On February 12 2016 08:15 swissman777 wrote:
I am not a Taeja fan, can I disagree? :\
Tbh tho, lotv is still new so taeja might come with a build that no one can stop for months. Idk, but without life, sOs, maru, rain, stats etc, in code s, he really has a chance

You really underestimate how s-class kespa pros are good at dissecting builds and coming up with counters. :D

As far as Taeja's skill goes, a guy does not reach GSL semis 3 times by accident. He was pretty fucking good at his time. Yeah, compared to GSL / S2SL / OSL, he's won second rate tournaments, but at his peak he could've crushed anyone (and did most of the time). Also, I think these 2/3 day cup tournaments aren't really favoring Koreans since you can't really prepare for that.

On the topic of groups A & H being groups of death I think that's just a case of voting with your bias goggles on.

In group A, Zest is obviously a cut above all the rest. I think that Taeja actually has a really good chance to grab 2nd place here. I think that Journey is the weakest of the 3 by far and it'll basically come down to Taeja's TvZ to see if he qualifies or not.

In group H, soO and Dear are clear favorites. I don't think that even DRG himself knows how he qualified for the group stage as it certainly wasn't down to a display of skill and imo he'll be sent home right way. Don't know for HerO, haven't watched him play, but again - both soO and Dear are and have always been much better than he was. Tbh I wouldn't even want him to pull off an upset as those two have much better chances progressing deeper in to the tournament while imo HerO will just get knocked out next round.
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
February 12 2016 17:36 GMT
#118
Poor Liquid players, the poll says one of their groups is the group of death
... surprinsingly
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TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
February 16 2016 17:04 GMT
#119
Group A
1 - Zest
2 - Taeja
3 - Rogue
4 - Journey

Group B
1 - Dream
2 - herO
3 - Leenock
4 - Seed

Group C
1 - Soulkey
2 - Myungsik
3 - Symbol
4 - Bunny

Group D
1 - Curious
2 - Stork
3 - Cure
4 - Forte

Group E
1 - TY
2 - Super
3 - Trap
4 - Departure

Group F
1 - Classic
2 - Solar
3 - Speed
4 - Creator

Group G
1 - Dark
2 - Alive
3 - Bbyong
4 - Losira

Group H
1 - soO
2 - Dear
3 - DRG
4 - HerO

1st Place - Zest, Dream, Soulkey, Ty, Classic, Dark, soO
2nd Place - Taeja, herO, Myungsik, Stork, Super, Solar, Alive, Dear
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SmileZerg
Profile Joined March 2012
United States543 Posts
February 16 2016 19:28 GMT
#120
Can we expect a preview article of the Group A players tonight before Code S kicks off? I've been out of the scene for quite awhile and I always enjoyed the official TL write-ups.
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