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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:00:35
February 04 2016 20:00 GMT
#61
On February 05 2016 04:44 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder who they are going to invite because in this system any invites besides Korean ones will be unfair. They can't invite Bly and PtitDrogo for DH finals because of "Rich get richer" and they shouldn't invite guys for no reason so they have bigger chances than the rest of us as well. Kind of worried about it.


they spent almost the entirety of WCS 2015 with the "rich get richer" method of inviting people
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 04 2016 20:02 GMT
#62
we could limit cs:go tournaments for AM teams only isn't that a great idea by the way?
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:05:29
February 04 2016 20:04 GMT
#63
On February 05 2016 04:44 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder who they are going to invite because in this system any invites besides Korean ones will be unfair. They can't invite Bly and PtitDrogo for DH finals because of "Rich get richer" and they shouldn't invite guys for no reason so they have bigger chances than the rest of us as well. Kind of worried about it.


Hmm, they dont have to invite chinese guys, because the offline quallifier will be most like only China and TW players.

When I have to guess: 2 top EU (or players who counted once to top EU) 1 CN, 1 Korean who is allowed to play in WCS.

So: Lilbow, Snute, Mystery, Hydra?


On February 05 2016 05:02 boxerfred wrote:
we could limit cs:go tournaments for AM teams only isn't that a great idea by the way?



You mean, Turner E-League?

In CS:GO there is one difference: While EU has the best team, NA has by far more money at the moment.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 04 2016 20:15 GMT
#64
Oh great, another tournament! But do people appreciate that? Noooo, salt salt salt and more salt. Seriously, you guys...
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
February 04 2016 20:23 GMT
#65
On February 04 2016 22:19 ShiroUtsuRi wrote:
sry, no koreans, not watching...


Oh no, how will we cope with the loss ...
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
February 04 2016 20:24 GMT
#66
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
February 04 2016 20:29 GMT
#67
I bet the only WCS Global event will be Blizzcon itself.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 04 2016 20:30 GMT
#68
On February 05 2016 05:23 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:19 ShiroUtsuRi wrote:
sry, no koreans, not watching...


Oh no, how will we cope with the loss ...


Yeah, it will be a tough one. I sense sleepless nights coming up here.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:35:53
February 04 2016 20:34 GMT
#69
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:46:35
February 04 2016 20:43 GMT
#70
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
February 04 2016 20:45 GMT
#71
cool tournament !

Only 2 slots for EU is a joke.
<;o)
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 04 2016 20:54 GMT
#72
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
February 04 2016 20:57 GMT
#73
On February 05 2016 01:24 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Imo the koreans should only start with 6 workers. Its just not right for our boys to lose to non WCS players after winning/placing high in a prestige tournament like this.
+ Show Spoiler +
10th letter of the greek alphabet


On February 05 2016 01:21 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.


Oh how gracious of you. How kind

I hope KeSPA fucking boycotts this. I really do


On February 05 2016 01:16 Cricketer12 wrote:
Wow koreans in the all star match. This is fucking blasphemous. Not enough region lock. Why wont Blizzard let non koreans win for a change. So unfair. We need more region lock boys.



When I read these replies on the bus on the way home from work I burst into laughter. Well played all three of you
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 21:10:20
February 04 2016 21:07 GMT
#74
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".

In fact if you look at the qualifiers of both DH Leipzig and WCS Winter, realistically the only spot(s) available to Chinese players is still the one Chinese qualifier, having to play on US servers to qualify is insanely hard for Chinese players due to lag. Actually this WCS Shanghai event is probably the only event Chinese players can play/qualify en masse.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 21:26:40
February 04 2016 21:15 GMT
#75
I think, this will be a good tournament and the awesome thing is that we will be able to laugh about the winner being beaten by some second tier Korean after the tournament :-)

So for me, 100 points up compared to some standard DH or IEM. As with IEM, they are even liing to the public by saying "The best players will be playing at the World Championship in Katowice". The Chinese did it great with this showmatch after the tournament. Of course if they invite someone reasonable.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
February 04 2016 21:18 GMT
#76
On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".
.

all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 04 2016 21:42 GMT
#77
On February 05 2016 06:18 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".
.

all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.


I think selfish is probably the wrong word? It is not the "Chinese people" that will be earning any moneys, am I right? Selfish has to do with getting benefits for your self.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 22:02:55
February 04 2016 22:02 GMT
#78
On February 05 2016 06:42 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:18 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".
.

all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.


I think selfish is probably the wrong word? It is not the "Chinese people" that will be earning any moneys, am I right? Selfish has to do with getting benefits for your self.

but they want their players to do well and don't care about the korean scene so it's selfish^^

+ Show Spoiler +
and it was a joke I don't think chinese people are really selfish

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 04 2016 23:01 GMT
#79
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess


I think you benefit quite a lot from it and it's fair since the chinese scene is actually making progress
Zest fanboy.
RaymondFish
Profile Joined July 2012
United States42 Posts
February 05 2016 00:53 GMT
#80
Ugh, disgusted with this WCS.
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