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WCS Circuit Shanghai announced

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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 14:20:18
February 04 2016 11:58 GMT
#1
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Source(In Chinese): http://sc2.blizzard.cn/articles/1001/75106
Location: Shanghai, China
Date: March 21st ~ 26th + All-star match on March 27th
Prize Pool:50,000 $ + 5,000 WCS Points
With 16 players:

  • 4 invites
  • 4 players from offline qualifiers
  • 8 players from online qualifiers:

  • 2 slots for Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
  • 2 slots for North America (USA and Canada).
  • 1 slot for Latin America.
  • 1 slot for China.
  • 1 slot for Oceania, Southeast Asia and Japan.
  • 1 slot for Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau.



All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.


On February 04 2016 21:58 digmouse wrote:
Schedule:

March 21st - 24th: Group play (GSL style)
March 25 and 26th: Playoffs
March 27th: Special events.

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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 12:09:33
February 04 2016 12:04 GMT
#2
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 12:09:37
February 04 2016 12:05 GMT
#3
Do the winners of the all-star match also get prize money? This is probably gonna run at near unwatchable times for me anyway
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
February 04 2016 12:09 GMT
#4
On February 04 2016 21:05 Elentos wrote:
Do the winners of the all-star match also get prize money?

They did not mention this in the original post, but I assume it will have a separate prize money from the main event OR the players will be paid to come to Shanghai and play it as a show match.
JonnySC2
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany119 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 12:13:35
February 04 2016 12:13 GMT
#5
This is nice. Hopefully more events will future small invite "all-star" tournaments like this. I also hope that the all-star event has another $5.000-10.000 prizepool.
SKT best KT
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 04 2016 12:18 GMT
#6
The offline qualifier is open to all wcs circuit eligible players, not just Chinese players. The tournament is also part of the GPL brand, full title is Gold Series International 2016.

On phone atm, will post what other things I know (and can say ofc) later.
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
February 04 2016 12:31 GMT
#7
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.

Saves them time since they need to roflstomp less players
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 04 2016 12:38 GMT
#8
Nice, should be fun.

But I'm still waiting for the first WCS Global event to be announced :/.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 12:45:48
February 04 2016 12:42 GMT
#9
On February 04 2016 21:38 Musicus wrote:
Nice, should be fun.

But I'm still waiting for the first WCS Global event to be announced :/.

Come on, don't make any jokes! There is no WCS Global event! As Homestory cup will not grant any WCS points and will not have 50k prize pool.

EDIT: but I like the idea that they will have some great successful international winner and then they will let him be beaten in a showmatch like Lilbow - Life.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 12:50:02
February 04 2016 12:46 GMT
#10
On February 04 2016 21:42 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 21:38 Musicus wrote:
Nice, should be fun.

But I'm still waiting for the first WCS Global event to be announced :/.

Come on, don't make any jokes! There is no WCS Global event! As Homestory cup will not grant any WCS points and will not have 50k prize pool.

EDIT: but I like the idea that they will have some great successful international winner and then they will let him be beaten in a showmatch like Lilbow - Life.

You heard him? Jump the ship!

Somehow it feels to me that there is no structure yet at all to the entire Circuit system, I doubt that these events will be the same next year and I think that's what is required from the system to be truly of equal opportunities as Blizzard + partners wanted.
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thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
February 04 2016 12:50 GMT
#11
”IEM XI - Shanghai“ ?
I love SC2
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
February 04 2016 12:51 GMT
#12
"1 slot for Oceania, Southeast Asia and Japan."

Keen.
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HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
February 04 2016 12:55 GMT
#13
wow im really really excited for this tournamnet
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 04 2016 12:58 GMT
#14
Schedule:

March 21st - 24th: Group play (GSL style)
March 25 and 26th: Playoffs
March 27th: Special events.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 04 2016 12:58 GMT
#15
Actually this looks pretty great but I don't like travelling to Asia :D
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 04 2016 13:02 GMT
#16
Has is gonna cheese into victory
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
February 04 2016 13:13 GMT
#17
On February 04 2016 21:58 Nerchio wrote:
Actually this looks pretty great but I don't like travelling to Asia :D

Lazy Artur ^^
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 04 2016 13:18 GMT
#18
On February 04 2016 21:46 aQuaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 21:42 Diabolique wrote:
On February 04 2016 21:38 Musicus wrote:
Nice, should be fun.

But I'm still waiting for the first WCS Global event to be announced :/.

Come on, don't make any jokes! There is no WCS Global event! As Homestory cup will not grant any WCS points and will not have 50k prize pool.

EDIT: but I like the idea that they will have some great successful international winner and then they will let him be beaten in a showmatch like Lilbow - Life.

You heard him? Jump the ship!

Somehow it feels to me that there is no structure yet at all to the entire Circuit system, I doubt that these events will be the same next year and I think that's what is required from the system to be truly of equal opportunities as Blizzard + partners wanted.

There is a clear structure: Checklist: Did you ban all Koreans? Yes? OK, here are the money to support your welfare tournament.
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COLT217
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany70 Posts
February 04 2016 13:19 GMT
#19
sry, no koreans, not watching...
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 04 2016 13:23 GMT
#20
On February 04 2016 22:13 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 21:58 Nerchio wrote:
Actually this looks pretty great but I don't like travelling to Asia :D

Lazy Artur ^^


seriously, pls go Nerchio -.-
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 04 2016 13:31 GMT
#21
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.


Global events are almost impossible to do, would have been a huge surprise.
Zest fanboy.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 04 2016 13:40 GMT
#22
On February 04 2016 22:31 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.


Global events are almost impossible to do, would have been a huge surprise.

As Blizzard "stole" IEM into the Welfare circuit, there is nobody else big enough to organize a Global event. And only Denis Take has the balls to refuse the money and WCS points and organize a tournament with Koreans at Homestory cup, Unfortunately, Homestory cup is the only tournament, where I would not mind to see foreigners only as the quality of the game is not the primary thing to watch ..
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
SmykuToronto
Profile Joined October 2014
Poland269 Posts
February 04 2016 13:42 GMT
#23

All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.

What a nice way to remind foreigners of their mortality . Poor guy works his ass off to place high in tourney so he can be shat on by Koreans.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
February 04 2016 13:44 GMT
#24
On February 04 2016 21:58 Nerchio wrote:
Actually this looks pretty great but I don't like travelling to Asia :D

Change your mind plz, win that tournament and $16k ez pz.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 04 2016 13:44 GMT
#25
On February 04 2016 22:42 SmykuToronto wrote:
Show nested quote +

All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.

What a nice way to remind foreigners of their mortality . Poor guy works his ass off to place high in tourney so he can be shat on by Koreans.


Haha, yeah that's actually pretty funny .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 04 2016 13:45 GMT
#26
On February 04 2016 22:42 SmykuToronto wrote:
Show nested quote +

All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.

What a nice way to remind foreigners of their mortality . Poor guy works his ass off to place high in tourney so he can be shat on by Koreans.

But that is a great marketing move. Everybody will be interested in it :-) Only instead of Life - Lilbow in 30 minutes, we will see aLive - Nerchio in 25 minutes :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 04 2016 13:54 GMT
#27
On February 04 2016 22:45 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:42 SmykuToronto wrote:

All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.

What a nice way to remind foreigners of their mortality . Poor guy works his ass off to place high in tourney so he can be shat on by Koreans.

But that is a great marketing move. Everybody will be interested in it :-) Only instead of Life - Lilbow in 30 minutes, we will see aLive - Nerchio in 25 minutes :-)

Yup, 3 times roach or overlord all ins and gg
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 04 2016 13:58 GMT
#28
On February 04 2016 22:54 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:45 Diabolique wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:42 SmykuToronto wrote:

All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.

What a nice way to remind foreigners of their mortality . Poor guy works his ass off to place high in tourney so he can be shat on by Koreans.

But that is a great marketing move. Everybody will be interested in it :-) Only instead of Life - Lilbow in 30 minutes, we will see aLive - Nerchio in 25 minutes :-)

Yup, 3 times roach or overlord all ins and gg

No! You may not gg after a failed roach all in! You need to keep something at home to try to stay in the game longer! :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 04 2016 14:03 GMT
#29
On February 04 2016 22:54 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:45 Diabolique wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:42 SmykuToronto wrote:

All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.

What a nice way to remind foreigners of their mortality . Poor guy works his ass off to place high in tourney so he can be shat on by Koreans.

But that is a great marketing move. Everybody will be interested in it :-) Only instead of Life - Lilbow in 30 minutes, we will see aLive - Nerchio in 25 minutes :-)

Yup, 3 times roach or overlord all ins and gg


I see this as confirmation that you will go .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
February 04 2016 14:06 GMT
#30
On February 04 2016 22:45 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:42 SmykuToronto wrote:

All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.

What a nice way to remind foreigners of their mortality . Poor guy works his ass off to place high in tourney so he can be shat on by Koreans.

But that is a great marketing move. Everybody will be interested in it :-) Only instead of Life - Lilbow in 30 minutes, we will see aLive - Nerchio in 25 minutes :-)

Who is aLive ?

16 men tournament for an entire week... That's interesting.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 04 2016 14:07 GMT
#31
On February 04 2016 22:40 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:31 sAsImre wrote:
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.


Global events are almost impossible to do, would have been a huge surprise.

As Blizzard "stole" IEM into the Welfare circuit, there is nobody else big enough to organize a Global event. And only Denis Take has the balls to refuse the money and WCS points and organize a tournament with Koreans at Homestory cup, Unfortunately, Homestory cup is the only tournament, where I would not mind to see foreigners only as the quality of the game is not the primary thing to watch ..


DH Winter isn't in the WCS season, maybe some redbull stuff too if they're involved. The point is that WCS Circuit events are really nice for organizers so it's hard to do a global or a non wcs event.
Zest fanboy.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 04 2016 14:12 GMT
#32
On February 04 2016 23:07 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:40 Diabolique wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:31 sAsImre wrote:
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.


Global events are almost impossible to do, would have been a huge surprise.

As Blizzard "stole" IEM into the Welfare circuit, there is nobody else big enough to organize a Global event. And only Denis Take has the balls to refuse the money and WCS points and organize a tournament with Koreans at Homestory cup, Unfortunately, Homestory cup is the only tournament, where I would not mind to see foreigners only as the quality of the game is not the primary thing to watch ..


DH Winter isn't in the WCS season, maybe some redbull stuff too if they're involved. The point is that WCS Circuit events are really nice for organizers so it's hard to do a global or a non wcs event.

DH is too small. IEM was always much larger, so when no IEM for Koreans, then also no DH for Koreans. RedBull ... I am somehow internally dreaming that they might do ONE global event. But I do not see it that realistic, more I can imagine someone like MSI to forget any WCS points and just do an event for both Koreans and foreigners without any WCS points, I really hope. But WCS global event? There will be none ...
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RingSC
Profile Joined December 2014
Sweden17 Posts
February 04 2016 14:31 GMT
#33
Why aren't there any National Qualifiers like it was for the Winter Circuit Championship??
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#34
On February 04 2016 23:31 RingSC wrote:
Why aren't there any National Qualifiers like it was for the Winter Circuit Championship??


It's a smaller event so they don't have the same requirements. There is already 1 spot for China and I suppose that they'll get some other chinese players with the invites.
Zest fanboy.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 04 2016 14:42 GMT
#35
On February 04 2016 23:31 RingSC wrote:
Why aren't there any National Qualifiers like it was for the Winter Circuit Championship??

There is a Chinese qualifier, since China is both one of the WCS regions and the host country there isn't a need to do a separate one, plus the offline open qualifier is basically a Chinese qualifier as well.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
February 04 2016 14:48 GMT
#36
Hey Shanghai, I live there and it goes for so many days I'll definitely go at least once to check this out maybe more depending on the invites
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 04 2016 14:48 GMT
#37
On February 04 2016 22:19 ShiroUtsuRi wrote:
sry, no koreans, not watching...


But there is Has. no ?
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
February 04 2016 15:21 GMT
#38
this is pretty dope!
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HoZBlooddrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Italy324 Posts
February 04 2016 15:56 GMT
#39
pretty awsome!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 04 2016 16:16 GMT
#40
Wow koreans in the all star match. This is fucking blasphemous. Not enough region lock. Why wont Blizzard let non koreans win for a change. So unfair. We need more region lock boys.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
February 04 2016 16:21 GMT
#41
All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.


Oh how gracious of you. How kind

I hope KeSPA fucking boycotts this. I really do
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 16:25:58
February 04 2016 16:24 GMT
#42
Imo the koreans should only start with 6 workers. Its just not right for our boys to lose to non WCS players after winning/placing high in a prestige tournament like this.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 04 2016 17:03 GMT
#43
I think we should not bash the chinese here for the WCS system. After all, they are kinda fighting the system on their own by giving us a showmatch with Koreans in it and possibly giving them money.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 04 2016 17:10 GMT
#44
Only 16 players?

So the invited player are in the money and points without doing anything?
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 04 2016 17:14 GMT
#45
On February 05 2016 02:10 Clonester wrote:
Only 16 players?

So the invited player are in the money and points without doing anything?


There is already a WCS rule that invited players must advance one round to receive WCS points.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
February 04 2016 17:16 GMT
#46
So are they ever going to have a WCS global event? Is it too much to ask?
Jodder
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany3 Posts
February 04 2016 17:34 GMT
#47
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.


Opposite for me, I don't wanna see koreans crush foreigners all day long so this is imho a good mixup. If this happens regularly we will be able to see if the foreign scene is able to improve (or the koreans are able to decline )
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
February 04 2016 17:51 GMT
#48
On February 05 2016 02:34 Jodder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.


Opposite for me, I don't wanna see koreans crush foreigners all day long so this is imho a good mixup. If this happens regularly we will be able to see if the foreign scene is able to improve (or the koreans are able to decline )


Yes, but we have enough wcs circuit events right now(dreamhack, iem), surely you won't mind one wcs global event in midst of all this?
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
February 04 2016 17:52 GMT
#49
How much are the Koreans getting pay? For showing up and/or tournament prize money?
JayuSC2
Profile Joined April 2015
Austria32 Posts
February 04 2016 18:37 GMT
#50
On February 05 2016 02:34 Jodder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 21:04 AWalker9 wrote:
Kinda disappointed the Koreans only get to feature in an allstar match tbh, would have much preferred them being involved in the actual tournament and not a side event.


Opposite for me, I don't wanna see koreans crush foreigners all day long so this is imho a good mixup. If this happens regularly we will be able to see if the foreign scene is able to improve (or the koreans are able to decline )


Don't you think it's more likely for foreigners to improve, when they face Koreans in tournaments regularly? There is no real other way to train against Koreans for Europeans, other than offline events, since the ping to KR server is terrible. I think the disparity between Koreans and foreigners will get even bigger with the new WCS system.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 04 2016 18:54 GMT
#51
Is the official name "'WCS Circuit Shanghai"?
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 04 2016 19:21 GMT
#52
On February 05 2016 03:54 Inflicted wrote:
Is the official name "'WCS Circuit Shanghai"?


Should be "Gold Series International 2016".
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 04 2016 19:22 GMT
#53
On February 05 2016 03:54 Inflicted wrote:
Is the official name "'WCS Circuit Shanghai"?


Should be Gold Series International 2016, at least that is what I was told, no idea why it isn't mentioned in the press release, probably not finalized?
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
February 04 2016 19:37 GMT
#54
this is so funny to me. It's in China and anyone from any region can play... except the Koreans who are right next door.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16086 Posts
February 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#55
On February 05 2016 04:37 Popkiller wrote:
this is so funny to me. It's in China and anyone from any region can play... except the Koreans who are right next door.

it would be just unfair they are too good. What's the point of having a tournament where some players are better than others?
Koreans should either start sucking or stay in korea.
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 04 2016 19:44 GMT
#56
I wonder who they are going to invite because in this system any invites besides Korean ones will be unfair. They can't invite Bly and PtitDrogo for DH finals because of "Rich get richer" and they shouldn't invite guys for no reason so they have bigger chances than the rest of us as well. Kind of worried about it.
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
February 04 2016 19:49 GMT
#57
Nice to see more tournaments but can´t shake the feeling of BS that koreans are not allowed in.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 04 2016 19:52 GMT
#58
boring, not going to tune in
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 04 2016 19:55 GMT
#59
How do you want to develop the foreign scene with only 8 online qualifiers spots for a 50K$ tournament? ):
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 19:58:33
February 04 2016 19:57 GMT
#60
On February 05 2016 04:42 Charoisaur wrote:
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On February 05 2016 04:37 Popkiller wrote:
this is so funny to me. It's in China and anyone from any region can play... except the Koreans who are right next door.

it would be just unfair they are too good. What's the point of having a tournament where some players are better than others?
Koreans should either start sucking or stay in korea.

How about we allow Koreans to play, but with a disadvantage? Like, have the Korean's units have 70% health.
Hell we could even implement an ELO system, and the favored player would get a unit health malus depending on the difference between his ELO and his opponent's. Such genius !
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:00:35
February 04 2016 20:00 GMT
#61
On February 05 2016 04:44 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder who they are going to invite because in this system any invites besides Korean ones will be unfair. They can't invite Bly and PtitDrogo for DH finals because of "Rich get richer" and they shouldn't invite guys for no reason so they have bigger chances than the rest of us as well. Kind of worried about it.


they spent almost the entirety of WCS 2015 with the "rich get richer" method of inviting people
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 04 2016 20:02 GMT
#62
we could limit cs:go tournaments for AM teams only isn't that a great idea by the way?
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:05:29
February 04 2016 20:04 GMT
#63
On February 05 2016 04:44 Nerchio wrote:
I wonder who they are going to invite because in this system any invites besides Korean ones will be unfair. They can't invite Bly and PtitDrogo for DH finals because of "Rich get richer" and they shouldn't invite guys for no reason so they have bigger chances than the rest of us as well. Kind of worried about it.


Hmm, they dont have to invite chinese guys, because the offline quallifier will be most like only China and TW players.

When I have to guess: 2 top EU (or players who counted once to top EU) 1 CN, 1 Korean who is allowed to play in WCS.

So: Lilbow, Snute, Mystery, Hydra?


On February 05 2016 05:02 boxerfred wrote:
we could limit cs:go tournaments for AM teams only isn't that a great idea by the way?



You mean, Turner E-League?

In CS:GO there is one difference: While EU has the best team, NA has by far more money at the moment.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 04 2016 20:15 GMT
#64
Oh great, another tournament! But do people appreciate that? Noooo, salt salt salt and more salt. Seriously, you guys...
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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
February 04 2016 20:23 GMT
#65
On February 04 2016 22:19 ShiroUtsuRi wrote:
sry, no koreans, not watching...


Oh no, how will we cope with the loss ...
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 04 2016 20:24 GMT
#66
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess
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20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
February 04 2016 20:29 GMT
#67
I bet the only WCS Global event will be Blizzcon itself.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 04 2016 20:30 GMT
#68
On February 05 2016 05:23 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:19 ShiroUtsuRi wrote:
sry, no koreans, not watching...


Oh no, how will we cope with the loss ...


Yeah, it will be a tough one. I sense sleepless nights coming up here.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:35:53
February 04 2016 20:34 GMT
#69
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 20:46:35
February 04 2016 20:43 GMT
#70
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.
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Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
February 04 2016 20:45 GMT
#71
cool tournament !

Only 2 slots for EU is a joke.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 04 2016 20:54 GMT
#72
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
February 04 2016 20:57 GMT
#73
On February 05 2016 01:24 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Imo the koreans should only start with 6 workers. Its just not right for our boys to lose to non WCS players after winning/placing high in a prestige tournament like this.
+ Show Spoiler +
10th letter of the greek alphabet


On February 05 2016 01:21 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China.


Oh how gracious of you. How kind

I hope KeSPA fucking boycotts this. I really do


On February 05 2016 01:16 Cricketer12 wrote:
Wow koreans in the all star match. This is fucking blasphemous. Not enough region lock. Why wont Blizzard let non koreans win for a change. So unfair. We need more region lock boys.



When I read these replies on the bus on the way home from work I burst into laughter. Well played all three of you
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 21:10:20
February 04 2016 21:07 GMT
#74
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".

In fact if you look at the qualifiers of both DH Leipzig and WCS Winter, realistically the only spot(s) available to Chinese players is still the one Chinese qualifier, having to play on US servers to qualify is insanely hard for Chinese players due to lag. Actually this WCS Shanghai event is probably the only event Chinese players can play/qualify en masse.
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 21:26:40
February 04 2016 21:15 GMT
#75
I think, this will be a good tournament and the awesome thing is that we will be able to laugh about the winner being beaten by some second tier Korean after the tournament :-)

So for me, 100 points up compared to some standard DH or IEM. As with IEM, they are even liing to the public by saying "The best players will be playing at the World Championship in Katowice". The Chinese did it great with this showmatch after the tournament. Of course if they invite someone reasonable.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16086 Posts
February 04 2016 21:18 GMT
#76
On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".
.

all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 04 2016 21:42 GMT
#77
On February 05 2016 06:18 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".
.

all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.


I think selfish is probably the wrong word? It is not the "Chinese people" that will be earning any moneys, am I right? Selfish has to do with getting benefits for your self.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16086 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 22:02:55
February 04 2016 22:02 GMT
#78
On February 05 2016 06:42 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:18 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess

Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country.


Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.


If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).

So I don't get what your first comment comes from

The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".
.

all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.


I think selfish is probably the wrong word? It is not the "Chinese people" that will be earning any moneys, am I right? Selfish has to do with getting benefits for your self.

but they want their players to do well and don't care about the korean scene so it's selfish^^

+ Show Spoiler +
and it was a joke I don't think chinese people are really selfish

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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 04 2016 23:01 GMT
#79
On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:
It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess


I think you benefit quite a lot from it and it's fair since the chinese scene is actually making progress
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RaymondFish
Profile Joined July 2012
United States42 Posts
February 05 2016 00:53 GMT
#80
Ugh, disgusted with this WCS.
VBBandit
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia20 Posts
February 05 2016 00:54 GMT
#81
Noooooo i'll be in Shanghai the week before and leaving the 19th :'(
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 06:00:53
February 05 2016 06:00 GMT
#82
So this is yet another weekend-type tourney ala DH and IEM.

Is there going to be a proper vanilla WCS tourney ala GSL? If yes, how many and when? Or is the WCS Circuit still making tourneys up as they move along?

As much as it's nice to have surprise announcements springing up, surely it's nicer for the players and viewers to have some clarity on the entire 2016 schedule. It's quite disconcerting that things are still being worked out behind the scenes. Blizzard has the clout and finances to make things happen by now (where as it's understandable for KeSPA to struggle with Proleague/GSL/SSL due to sponsorship issues and Blizzard's sudden WCS changes).
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 05 2016 06:42 GMT
#83
On February 05 2016 15:00 RKC wrote:
So this is yet another weekend-type tourney ala DH and IEM.

Is there going to be a proper vanilla WCS tourney ala GSL? If yes, how many and when? Or is the WCS Circuit still making tourneys up as they move along?

As much as it's nice to have surprise announcements springing up, surely it's nicer for the players and viewers to have some clarity on the entire 2016 schedule. It's quite disconcerting that things are still being worked out behind the scenes. Blizzard has the clout and finances to make things happen by now (where as it's understandable for KeSPA to struggle with Proleague/GSL/SSL due to sponsorship issues and Blizzard's sudden WCS changes).


It is a week long event, not something rushed in a weekend.
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Eighty7Gaming
Profile Joined November 2015
12 Posts
February 09 2016 11:48 GMT
#84
Really sad to see so much negativity.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
February 12 2016 18:01 GMT
#85
On February 05 2016 15:42 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 15:00 RKC wrote:
So this is yet another weekend-type tourney ala DH and IEM.

Is there going to be a proper vanilla WCS tourney ala GSL? If yes, how many and when? Or is the WCS Circuit still making tourneys up as they move along?

As much as it's nice to have surprise announcements springing up, surely it's nicer for the players and viewers to have some clarity on the entire 2016 schedule. It's quite disconcerting that things are still being worked out behind the scenes. Blizzard has the clout and finances to make things happen by now (where as it's understandable for KeSPA to struggle with Proleague/GSL/SSL due to sponsorship issues and Blizzard's sudden WCS changes).


It is a week long event, not something rushed in a weekend.

Which unfortunately means a lot of players that are in school cant play.
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Marcintosh
Profile Joined January 2016
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-20 13:43:59
March 20 2016 11:44 GMT
#86
Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket.
EDIT : it's okay now schedule has been updated
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 20 2016 12:17 GMT
#87
On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote:
Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket.


Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 20 2016 12:30 GMT
#88
On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote:
Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket.


Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Interesting, so at the same time as the Proleague play offs. The winner of these two events is obvious. But good that after the Proleague finishes, we can switch to GPL :-)
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 20 2016 13:33 GMT
#89
On March 20 2016 21:30 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:
On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote:
Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket.


Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Interesting, so at the same time as the Proleague play offs. The winner of these two events is obvious. But good that after the Proleague finishes, we can switch to GPL :-)

It is one Bo3 GSL group per day so it might end before Proleague =(
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Marcintosh
Profile Joined January 2016
5 Posts
March 20 2016 13:45 GMT
#90
Thanks!
On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote:
Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket.


Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 20 2016 18:51 GMT
#91
On March 20 2016 22:33 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 21:30 Diabolique wrote:
On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:
On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote:
Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket.


Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Interesting, so at the same time as the Proleague play offs. The winner of these two events is obvious. But good that after the Proleague finishes, we can switch to GPL :-)

It is one Bo3 GSL group per day so it might end before Proleague =(

Yes, but it will be 5 BO3 matches, while proleague is one BO7 match. And it is all kill, so it might be just 4 BO1 matches. So Proleague should end much sooner. But that applies just for the groups A and B. Group C will be played when GSL starts and that will last certainly longer. But we could watch at least group D.
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