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Life arrested on match-fixing charges - Page 7

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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 10:29:27
January 31 2016 10:27 GMT
#121
On January 31 2016 19:03 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 18:58 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On January 31 2016 18:56 pr1de wrote:
Just heard from Neuro the zerg player that Life loves to gamble.
That he loves blackjack roulette etc. He even lost 40.000 in one night at that games.

Maybe life betted on others games and not himself? Or maybe he has a terrible gamble addiction and he needed that money because all of his money is already gone?

Unless you can verify something like that, I don't think posts like this are super useful to the discussion.


Yeah I think the second part doesn't help and is without any foundation.

But the part about him being a gambler, is quite well known I think?

I don't even know from where, but I know about it. I think it's been said multiple times that he loves to gamble. Probably just mentioned during casts by the commentators? Lots of them love to gamble too.

Doesn't have any connection to match-fixing though imo. I still hope he was underage back then and was forced to do it or something :/.

Definitely would have some what of a connection to match-fixing in Korea, seeing as some gambling is illegal in Korea if i remember correctly? If Life wanted to gamble, he would have got to know some dodgy people.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 31 2016 10:29 GMT
#122
On January 31 2016 19:23 Nalan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 19:08 Musicus wrote:
On January 31 2016 19:06 Noonius wrote:
On January 31 2016 18:50 Musicus wrote:
On January 31 2016 18:45 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Can you wait til someone is an adult and charge them for crimes they did as a child?


The point of time when you committed the crime is all that counts. No matter how old you are when you get charged, or are brought to trial

Edit: I actually only know about German law, but most law systems, especially in asia are modelled after the European continetal law system and copied France and Germany.



wasn't he 18 last year?


Yeah, is it known when he supposedly received money for match-fixing?

Also can somebody tell us if Korean age or the "normal/global" age counts in Korea for these things?

Basically, is Korean age the legal age in Korea? I feel embarassed asking this lol.


Wiki says that age of majority in Korea is 19 (idk about "global" or "asian" years). Life turned 19 about three weeks ago, so it seems likely to me that they arrested him now because of that.


Okay, so he was still a minor if he ever did something. Somebody said they watied for him to be an adult, so I guess that makes sense and they don't use Korea age here, since he would already be 20 then (Korean age: You are 1 year old when you are born and get 1 year older ever new year. So if you are born on new year's eve you are 2 years old after 2 days in Korea ).

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 10:30:09
January 31 2016 10:29 GMT
#123
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 31 2016 10:29 GMT
#124
hell please be a lie
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
January 31 2016 10:30 GMT
#125
On January 31 2016 18:38 digmouse wrote:
This is the saddest day of Starcraft 2 eSports.

It is indeed
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 31 2016 10:31 GMT
#126
On January 31 2016 19:27 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 19:03 Musicus wrote:
On January 31 2016 18:58 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On January 31 2016 18:56 pr1de wrote:
Just heard from Neuro the zerg player that Life loves to gamble.
That he loves blackjack roulette etc. He even lost 40.000 in one night at that games.

Maybe life betted on others games and not himself? Or maybe he has a terrible gamble addiction and he needed that money because all of his money is already gone?

Unless you can verify something like that, I don't think posts like this are super useful to the discussion.


Yeah I think the second part doesn't help and is without any foundation.

But the part about him being a gambler, is quite well known I think?

I don't even know from where, but I know about it. I think it's been said multiple times that he loves to gamble. Probably just mentioned during casts by the commentators? Lots of them love to gamble too.

Doesn't have any connection to match-fixing though imo. I still hope he was underage back then and was forced to do it or something :/.

Definitely would have some what of a connection to match-fixing in Korea, seeing as some gambling is illegal in Korea if i remember correctly? If Life wanted to gamble, he would have got to know some dodgy people.


Oh shit, completely forgot that gambling was illegal in Korea for a moment.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 31 2016 10:31 GMT
#127
Young, too much money and fame, likes to gamble(?). Not a story never told before. I still have hope it's somehow not true tho
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 10:33:31
January 31 2016 10:32 GMT
#128
On January 31 2016 19:24 Hassybaby wrote:
So why is everyone assuming he's guilty? He's been charged, not convicted

Maybe not measure the noose before the hammer's been dropped

Because making an official announcement that he's been arrested on charges of match-fixing, while specifically stating he received money to do so, basically means that they have really solid evidence along those lines.

This is a lot more serious than "We're looking into reports of match-fixing." It's a lot more like "We're arresting him because we've gathered enough evidence to make a good case for it."
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
January 31 2016 10:34 GMT
#129
what matches are under the scanner ?
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4230 Posts
January 31 2016 10:35 GMT
#130
On January 31 2016 19:24 Hassybaby wrote:
So why is everyone assuming he's guilty? He's been charged, not convicted

Maybe not measure the noose before the hammer's been dropped

Because its most likely he did. There's no real history for them dropping such charges or the accused coming up on top.

If they're pressing charges, he probably had tangible contact with such matchfixers.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4230 Posts
January 31 2016 10:35 GMT
#131
On January 31 2016 19:34 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
what matches are under the scanner ?

incoming Liquibet to successfully guess which game(s) were matchfixed?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
TL+ Member
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 31 2016 10:41 GMT
#132
On January 31 2016 19:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 19:24 Hassybaby wrote:
So why is everyone assuming he's guilty? He's been charged, not convicted

Maybe not measure the noose before the hammer's been dropped

Because making an official announcement that he's been arrested on charges of match-fixing, while specifically stating he received money to do so, basically means that they have really solid evidence along those lines.

This is a lot more serious than "We're looking into reports of match-fixing." It's a lot more like "We're arresting him because we've gathered enough evidence to make a good case for it."

Because no one's ever been falsely accused, or charges have never been dropped....

Until there's an actual conviction, or there's solid evidence provided to the public, everything said is blind speculation. Last I checked, that's not damning evidence, or does the term innocent until proven guilty not mean anything?

All we've heard is that he's been formally arrested. We don't even have specific charges yet. This is pointless
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 31 2016 10:41 GMT
#133
I'll wait until there's a sentence but... fuck.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 31 2016 10:42 GMT
#134
There is still nothing confirmed though..

Before it was a rumor that he was being charged for match fixing, now it's confirmed what that charge is. But that doesn't mean that he's actually gone and done it yet.

Outlook not looking good, however. I want more details.
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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
January 31 2016 10:42 GMT
#135
Well this is bad news
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 10:44:07
January 31 2016 10:43 GMT
#136
So this is the game that Korean scene's the most suspicious about.



Especially because on Korean version of the vod, casters said that something like this cannot happen, and Life smiled when he saw Solar's zerglings that he couldn't defend, and at 3:00, Life had a weird face for a moment when the overlord turns after him seeing the creep.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 31 2016 10:43 GMT
#137
On January 31 2016 19:35 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 19:34 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
what matches are under the scanner ?

incoming Liquibet to successfully guess which game(s) were matchfixed?

Also my thought. We could also modify the FPL a little

Fantasy Matchfix League
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 10:44:00
January 31 2016 10:43 GMT
#138
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 31 2016 10:45 GMT
#139
What did I, as an honest fan, do to deserve this?

Fuck Life if this turns out to be true.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 31 2016 10:47 GMT
#140
On January 31 2016 19:43 egernya wrote:
So this is the game that Korean scene's the most suspicious about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORwq8rZ5fDQ

Especially because on Korean version of the vod, casters said that something like this cannot happen, and Life smiled when he saw Solar's zerglings that he couldn't defend, and at 3:00, Life had a weird face for a moment when the overlord turns after him seeing the creep.


That far back? Wow.

I remember raging in the LR at how careless Life was that game too :/
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