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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
February 09 2016 14:12 GMT
#1241
The silence is killing me
Have a nice day ;)
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
February 09 2016 14:32 GMT
#1242
The game vs solar is just way too blatant. Same thing as in the marineking game with pretending not to see the creep cept I guess they couldn't prove anything against MKP despite his excuse not passing the smell test. Life is widely considered top 3 in the world and would simply never make a mistake that dumb in a pro level game. His reaction was so fake too. Like, "Oh HAHAHA *smiles* lol omg solar you got me! I didn't expect a thing! lololol"

User was warned for this post
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 09 2016 14:56 GMT
#1243
I hope there's an update soon. Regardless of innocence or guilt I need some closure.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 09 2016 15:26 GMT
#1244
Zealously, speak or stay silent forever!
By the way, when they asked PartinG about Life, he did not want to talk about it, as he was saying, Life is his close friend.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 09 2016 16:28 GMT
#1245
On February 09 2016 23:56 royalroadweed wrote:
I hope there's an update soon. Regardless of innocence or guilt I need some closure.

at this point i consider him 100% guilty unless an update says otherwise
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Steven SeBoomBoom
Profile Joined February 2016
1 Post
February 09 2016 16:40 GMT
#1246
I think clonester said it well already.I didnt know that life couldnt take any of the won money either.
Also I have a "poker background" if your curious there was also a massiv scandal some time ago, google ultimate beat, too much to lose.
It actually starts with quote:"If you make a Million a day, why would you possibily wanna steal another 20,30,40k, for what Reason?"
And well, therein is also the answer, no matter how much you can always add or make more.Now, debattedly if you make 500Millions a day maybe your incentive isnt that big but who even knows, there is a reason coruption is rampart everywhere.
But also in Tennis where Money is alot bigger, there is still probably alot of matchfixing going on.
So I havent looked at any games, I have no idea if he cheated or not but going from the standpoint hes so good he made enough money is very naiv if not stupid.
suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
February 09 2016 16:40 GMT
#1247
On February 10 2016 01:28 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 23:56 royalroadweed wrote:
I hope there's an update soon. Regardless of innocence or guilt I need some closure.

at this point i consider him 100% guilty unless an update says otherwise


That's a weird way of thinking. Guilty until proven innocent, eh?

Doesn't look good though, but let's wait for confirmations before we judge him based on something we heard from a forum.
Information is everything
MRSA_SC2
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany19 Posts
February 09 2016 16:46 GMT
#1248
Regardless of the verdict, Life seems to have become a victim of the state of emergency in south Korea
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
February 09 2016 16:57 GMT
#1249
I... loved Life.

This is heart breaking. Utterly and completely heartbreaking.

I don't even know if I can watch Starcraft any more.
I love crazymoving
CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
February 09 2016 16:59 GMT
#1250
On February 10 2016 01:46 MRSA_SC2 wrote:
Regardless of the verdict, Life seems to have become a victim of the state of emergency in south Korea

If he did fix matches, then how is he a victim?
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-09 18:47:32
February 09 2016 17:16 GMT
#1251
I'm willing to be any amount of money that these players/coaches decided not to match-fix once after being pressured to do it multiple times by big wigs, and they decided to use whatever they could to punish them for it. Cases like this aer usually a lot deeper than:

"Yea, I received $5k in order to throw this game"

It's usually more like:

"I was threatened and told that if I did not accept the money and throw the game, that I'd never be able to play the game on stage again."

But you know, the media says something and everyone just listens. Blindly. I could be wrong in more ways than 1 but, I'd imagine that the situation isn't as simple as people believe. If SK REALLY has a 98% conviction rate when it comes to stuff like this, I'd imagine it's because the few players/coaches that are arrested for it were propositioned by someone that has the power (or someone close to them) to put them away.

This is not a "conspiracy theory" either. Corruption exists everywhere, SK isn't immune or exempt from this truth (this truth being corruption).
ok
Mier19891
Profile Joined May 2015
United States75 Posts
February 09 2016 17:21 GMT
#1252
Every time this thread gets bumped i allow myself to hope for some resolution, and every time I'm disappointed by speculative fact-free nonsense. I hope they post the decision in a new thread because I'm done with this one.
MRSA_SC2
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany19 Posts
February 09 2016 17:24 GMT
#1253
On February 10 2016 01:59 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 01:46 MRSA_SC2 wrote:
Regardless of the verdict, Life seems to have become a victim of the state of emergency in south Korea

If he did fix matches, then how is he a victim?


I cannot argue with you on this matter since i do not know which country you come from. However I would say that south Korea is usually regarded as a country where western values have made an influential impact on the political system.
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
February 09 2016 17:50 GMT
#1254
On February 10 2016 02:21 Mier19891 wrote:
Every time this thread gets bumped i allow myself to hope for some resolution, and every time I'm disappointed by speculative fact-free nonsense. I hope they post the decision in a new thread because I'm done with this one.


Oh, I'm certain any major news will be shouted from the rooftops and definitely not buried inside this thread. Maybe something very, very minor would only get a post in this thread. Maybe.
blackxored
Profile Joined August 2014
25 Posts
February 09 2016 18:05 GMT
#1255
Wanna hear conspiracy theories? All of WCS changes was just the lovely Olivia Pope doing damage control for Blizzard as the Korean SC2 scene was about to go whoops.

Now on a serious note for those without too much Netflix on their system, this is really sad. Hard to make someone's mind without conclusion, but the kid is my SC2 idol, and 2nd best player of all time, perhaps on his way to become the 1st given how young he is.

BibleThump anyone?

User was warned for this post
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
February 09 2016 18:11 GMT
#1256
On February 10 2016 03:05 blackxored wrote:
Wanna hear conspiracy theories? All of WCS changes was just the lovely Olivia Pope doing damage control for Blizzard as the Korean SC2 scene was about to go whoops.

Now on a serious note for those without too much Netflix on their system, this is really sad. Hard to make someone's mind without conclusion, but the kid is my SC2 idol, and 2nd best player of all time, perhaps on his way to become the 1st given how young he is.

BibleThump anyone?


how about blizzard killing sc2 when it no longer brings profits from sales?
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
MRSA_SC2
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany19 Posts
February 09 2016 18:16 GMT
#1257
On February 10 2016 03:05 blackxored wrote:
Wanna hear conspiracy theories? All of WCS changes was just the lovely Olivia Pope doing damage control for Blizzard as the Korean SC2 scene was about to go whoops.

Now on a serious note for those without too much Netflix on their system, this is really sad. Hard to make someone's mind without conclusion, but the kid is my SC2 idol, and 2nd best player of all time, perhaps on his way to become the 1st given how young he is.

BibleThump anyone?


I can definitely feel for you here. I remember when my Tennis idol retired many years ago, i lost motive to continue watching the sport religiously and actually over some two years to the point where i completely stopped, since i had to prioritize my free time.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-09 18:30:14
February 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#1258
On February 10 2016 01:40 sd_andeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 01:28 brickrd wrote:
On February 09 2016 23:56 royalroadweed wrote:
I hope there's an update soon. Regardless of innocence or guilt I need some closure.

at this point i consider him 100% guilty unless an update says otherwise


That's a weird way of thinking. Guilty until proven innocent, eh?

Doesn't look good though, but let's wait for confirmations before we judge him based on something we heard from a forum.

uhh... he was arrested and charged by the police, that's not hearing a rumor from a forum.

fortunately for life i'm not prosecuting him nor on a jury judging him. i'm simply making an observation based on intuition. the situation looks bad, and i believe he's guilty. i don't owe it to anyone to withhold judgment. since i am not the law and don't control anything about life's... life... i don't have to be fair. my opinion is irrelevant to him.

this thread currently serves absolutely no purpose but to speculate about what happened/will happen. so if you're against speculation and intuitive judgment, why post here?
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
February 09 2016 18:36 GMT
#1259
On February 10 2016 01:57 Flonomenalz wrote:
I... loved Life.

This is heart breaking. Utterly and completely heartbreaking.

I don't even know if I can watch Starcraft any more.


StarCraft isn't just one guy though. If you like to play the game and not just watching it, there's no reason to stop.
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 09 2016 18:56 GMT
#1260
On February 10 2016 02:16 Steelo_Rivers wrote:
I'm willing to be any amount of money that these players/coaches decided not to match-fix once after being pressured to do it multiple times by big wigs, and they decided to use whatever they could to punish them for it. Cases like this aer usually a lot deeper than:

"Yea, I received $5k in order to throw this game"

It's usually more like:

"I was threatened and told that if I did not accept the money and throw the game, that I'd never be able to play the game on stage again."

But you know, the media says something and everyone just listens. Blindly. I could be wrong in more ways than 1 but, I'd imagine that the situation isn't as simple as people believe. If SK REALLY has a 98% conviction rate when it comes to stuff like this, I'd imagine it's because the few players/coaches that are arrested for it were propositioned by someone that has the power (or someone close to them) to put them away.

This is not a "conspiracy theory" either. Corruption exists everywhere, SK isn't immune or exempt from this truth (this truth being corruption).


This is the definition of conspiracy theory.
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