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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
February 03 2016 06:48 GMT
#961
On February 03 2016 15:36 BreAKerTV wrote:
Do we have anything new yet? Any official statements?

Yes, but we decided not to post it.
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
February 03 2016 08:26 GMT
#962
On February 03 2016 15:48 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 15:36 BreAKerTV wrote:
Do we have anything new yet? Any official statements?

Yes, but we decided not to post it.

you are a troll
Melee_KumA
Profile Joined June 2014
United States42 Posts
February 03 2016 09:05 GMT
#963
Any follow-up on this?
Never forget the Spanishiwa Inquisition.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
February 03 2016 09:08 GMT
#964
On February 03 2016 18:05 Melee_KumA wrote:
Any follow-up on this?

Yes, but PepsiMaxxxx decided not to post it.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 10:35:03
February 03 2016 10:20 GMT
#965
On February 03 2016 05:47 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 05:41 Swisslink wrote:
How accurate is Liquipedia on this matter?
It states regarding Life's Code A match: "Postponed until further notice" - so there was some kind of update, but NO ban yet?
If that's the case, wouldn't this mean they aren't really convinced of Life being guilty?
I mean... If it was certain, they could just kick him out of the tournament. Couldn't they?


More likely there's still investigations going on or they're trying to get him to roll on a deal for a reduced sentence. I think the "Postponed till Further Notice" thing is just a placeholder. As I said earlier in the thread, Bunny will advance by forfeit, whether it's a KeSPA enforced forfeit or not.



I'm not too sure. I mean, they banned the PRIME guys almost immediately. In Life's case - considering Liquipedia is accurate - they updated his status regarding the upcoming match and postponed it further.

For me, this just looks like they don't know yet if he's gonna get banned and if he isn't they want him to play as soon as possible. Which would be understandble, considering Life has always been one of the stars of the scene. To me (maybe mostly hopeful thinking) this sounds like they want to give Life enough time to prove his innocence before taking any conclusive action.

However, I'm relying on Liquipedia here. Somehow I haven't found an official statement by Afreeca so far. Do they even have an English Website, with schedule and stuff regarding GSL? :o
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
February 03 2016 11:32 GMT
#966
As long as there are no official statements and Kespa has not banned anyone, they'll have to put it up as postponed. Given the circumstances, the chances of the match being played might be low, but with what we and they know today, that's how to put it.

As much as it would suck if Life is guilty, the scene will live on. He's still been one of the best players ever and there are lots of top players left. What concerns me more are the rumors of there being more top players potentially involved.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 11:59:10
February 03 2016 11:56 GMT
#967
There was a schedule during PL (day 1 I think) and Life/Bunny was taken out of the schedule
So I moved it to 'Postponed' on LP

I checked Afreeca boards and there was no info on the match either
Liquipedia"Expert"
MoonFan
Profile Joined July 2013
Vietnam55 Posts
February 04 2016 01:30 GMT
#968
Another the day with his smile
Loccstana
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
February 04 2016 02:45 GMT
#969
Could someone post some VODs of suspicious games that life played? I would like to judge for myself whether his is guilty or not.
[url]http://i.imgur.com/lw2yN.jpg[/url]
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 02:47:22
February 04 2016 02:46 GMT
#970
On February 04 2016 11:45 Loccstana wrote:
Could someone post some VODs of suspicious games that life played? I would like to judge for myself whether his is guilty or not.


They haven't announced which games are suspicious.

But I'll remind everyone again that the actual charge is receiving money to match-fix. Which is both something easily proven without watching vods and could actually apply to a game he has yet to play (just throwing it out there, even though it's more likely it was for a game already played).
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
February 04 2016 04:40 GMT
#971
I wonder if Life's cutting a deal...
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
February 04 2016 07:40 GMT
#972
On February 04 2016 11:46 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 11:45 Loccstana wrote:
Could someone post some VODs of suspicious games that life played? I would like to judge for myself whether his is guilty or not.


They haven't announced which games are suspicious.

But I'll remind everyone again that the actual charge is receiving money to match-fix. Which is both something easily proven without watching vods and could actually apply to a game he has yet to play (just throwing it out there, even though it's more likely it was for a game already played).

Match fixing doesn't mean losing games per se. He could be given money to not win under 10 minutes(e.g.). So he could be winning things even when he was match fixing. That's why we had no time in the PL2015 (not paying attention to it this season)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
February 04 2016 08:35 GMT
#973
Good point the prop bets slipped my mind. It should also be noted that some suspected games where individual ones in the set so the tainted player could conceivably still win the set 2-1 and have both thrown a game and avoided suspicion by advancing (obviously the margin of error is nil if you want your cake and eat it too)..
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 04 2016 08:46 GMT
#974
On February 04 2016 11:45 Loccstana wrote:
Could someone post some VODs of suspicious games that life played? I would like to judge for myself whether his is guilty or not.


Loccstana "Expert" @ TL.net
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10871 Posts
February 04 2016 08:54 GMT
#975
I don't care what no one says, Life was just livin the life.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Skyhook
Profile Joined October 2010
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 21:06:55
February 04 2016 08:59 GMT
#976
CHEATER CHEATER PUMPKIN EATER! HOW CAN WE BE SURE HIS LIFE IS NOT ONE BIG LIE!? HOW DO WE KNOW ALL THOSE TITLES ARE LEGIT?!?! STRIP HIM OF HIS TITLES AND BAN HIM FOREVER!!!

User was warned for this post.
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 04 2016 09:02 GMT
#977
On February 04 2016 17:59 Skyhook wrote:
CHEATER CHEATER PUMPKIN EATER! HOW CAN WE BE SURE HIS LIFE IS NOT ONE BIG LIE!? HOW DO WE KNOW ALL THOSE TITLES ARE LEGIT?!?! STRIP HIM OF HIS TITLES AND BAN HIM FOREVER!!!

Only when the release ALL of the details shall i get behind this statement if he is guilty.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
February 04 2016 09:36 GMT
#978
Christ what to these bookies do over there
Is it just pressure through money by some bookie groups, take it or leave it
Or Godfather hardcore pressure like organized crime syndicates?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 04 2016 10:23 GMT
#979
On February 04 2016 18:36 LemOn wrote:
Christ what to these bookies do over there
Is it just pressure through money by some bookie groups, take it or leave it
Or Godfather hardcore pressure like organized crime syndicates?


There's only one way to find out: get good enough to become a pro in Korea. Better go practicing now!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 04 2016 11:03 GMT
#980
On February 04 2016 18:02 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 17:59 Skyhook wrote:
CHEATER CHEATER PUMPKIN EATER! HOW CAN WE BE SURE HIS LIFE IS NOT ONE BIG LIE!? HOW DO WE KNOW ALL THOSE TITLES ARE LEGIT?!?! STRIP HIM OF HIS TITLES AND BAN HIM FOREVER!!!

Only when the release ALL of the details shall i get behind this statement if he is guilty.

So if he's proven guilty of matchfixing 5 games, we should strip him of all his titles, which he supposedly acquired in a legit way?
...
What's next, when someone is proven guilty of murdering one's wife, we'll also consider him guilty of murdering one's children and parents, even though they're alive?
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