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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 02 2016 16:35 GMT
#901
On February 02 2016 21:44 egernya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 20:12 lastride wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:01 nighcol wrote:
On February 02 2016 10:34 EngrishTeacher wrote:
We bandwagon because the thread is always at the top of the SC2 general section, but honestly, who gives a fuck. Just how many spectators are such hardcore fans that to them, Life = SC2? Most of us will go on watching and playing.


Yeah, I've never been worried about the foreign scene shifting away because of matchfixing. My worries are more about the Korean scene based on how much the SavioR incident has been blamed for the death of BW. Even there I guess the main problem was sponsors walking away.

I didnt know that bw died in 2008 lol
I am pretty sure it peaked in 2010-11

It certainly peaked in 2004 or 2005.

It definitely peaked in '04 to '06, and though it still felt strong in '10 to '11, I'm sure viewership had dropped and there were definitely significant sponsorship problems popping up.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
raff1001
Profile Joined February 2016
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 16:38:43
February 02 2016 16:36 GMT
#902
I was talking about enjoying the Starcraft2 show as you enjoy a football match.I don't play Starcraft since the last year WoL but I've always been a huge fan of the competitive scene,mainly because of the prodigy Zerg.I followed most of SC2 events because I wanted to enjoy his playstyle : fun,unpredictable,often crazy but most Times Godly.
No other player has never delivered this pure entrernaiment to me.Every game,every win,every loss made me proud of him
Losing Life means basically to lose my passion,his games gave so much to this game that I can't recognize SC2 without his son.
LongLifeToLife
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
February 02 2016 16:39 GMT
#903
=( bad news for Afreeca.. now they need another ace
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
February 02 2016 16:41 GMT
#904
On February 03 2016 01:39 joshie0808 wrote:
=( bad news for Afreeca.. now they need another ace


The joke is that they lost Leenock for Life, and Life turned out to be a scam... It was not a trade but an awkward trap were they lost a player before PL starts...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28532 Posts
February 02 2016 16:44 GMT
#905
On February 03 2016 01:39 joshie0808 wrote:
=( bad news for Afreeca.. now they need another ace

I hope DRG returns or maybe JD is an option when his EG contract expires..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
February 02 2016 16:46 GMT
#906
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 02 2016 16:46 GMT
#907
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 16:55:18
February 02 2016 16:48 GMT
#908
One of the problems with matchfixing is that it becomes difficult to separate the player from the person because the integrity of the games is undermined. It's even worse with doping, where you have to wonder at all times: "is this the sort of person to cheat?" and if caught then the achievements are to a great extent fake. Matchfixing is not so destructive, but it still puts many of the player's mistakes in question and leaves us to wonder to what extent they're genuine. And it casts a shadow over other games too, creating this sort of paranoia where we no longer trust the players because we can't trust them as people.

That's a problem with many things, e.g. many of the most important intellectuals of the first half of the 20th century are partly discredited for being antisemitic and one has to constantly approach their work with caution and first determine whether this or that is tainted and whether it can be separated from their personal views. It's usually easier with artists and athletes, where the work or the achievement can stand for itself without being the conscious creation of a corrupt mind or whatnot, but it's not always possible and it requires some effort and introspection.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 02 2016 16:53 GMT
#909
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


He's not gonna play for Afreeca for sure. They already Photoshopped him out of the team picture.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
February 02 2016 16:56 GMT
#910
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


Well, since nobody knows what's been going on, why not?
I'd assume, if someone pressured/threatened him, an underage child, into it, he could still be allowed to play.
For all we know, it could have been more than a year since this all happened.

... and I just don't want Life to leave the scene... :-/
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
February 02 2016 16:56 GMT
#911
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


Marineking wasn't charged. That's the difference
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
February 02 2016 16:58 GMT
#912
On February 03 2016 01:53 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


He's not gonna play for Afreeca for sure. They already Photoshopped him out of the team picture.

I'm way more intrigued by the fact that Leenock was photoshopped into the KT team picture. Looks so weird.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
February 02 2016 17:05 GMT
#913
Why aren't more people talking about how this happened to someone on a Korean Telecom team. Which I can only imagine, are the biggest sponsors in the scene, right? Did the coaches in KT know something was up and that's why they'd let Life go on such a ridiculous trade?
Squitle-MC-Parting-Major-Polt
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
February 02 2016 17:09 GMT
#914
I need to stop constantly revisiting this thread -.- Call me when an update happens
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
February 02 2016 17:10 GMT
#915
On February 03 2016 02:05 orllyfools wrote:
Why aren't more people talking about how this happened to someone on a Korean Telecom team. Which I can only imagine, are the biggest sponsors in the scene, right? Did the coaches in KT know something was up and that's why they'd let Life go on such a ridiculous trade?

It was said that the games in question were during his time on Startale and that Life requested his transfer away from KT. But maybe there is more underneath the surface.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
February 02 2016 17:13 GMT
#916
On February 03 2016 02:05 orllyfools wrote:
Why aren't more people talking about how this happened to someone on a Korean Telecom team. Which I can only imagine, are the biggest sponsors in the scene, right? Did the coaches in KT know something was up and that's why they'd let Life go on such a ridiculous trade?


Why is them being the biggest sponsors that relevant? I doubt the theory that KT knew, he never got to play a single game on the Afreeca team, was still on KT in the teaser trailers and the last minute transfer won't have been heard of by many people. I think it does very little to distance KT from this.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 02 2016 17:14 GMT
#917
On February 03 2016 01:56 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


Marineking wasn't charged. That's the difference


He is arrested on match fixing charges not charged on match fixing. There is a difference.

MarineKing was also introgated on match fixing charges. We are John Snow right now. We know nothing.

On February 03 2016 01:53 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


He's not gonna play for Afreeca for sure. They already Photoshopped him out of the team picture.


I did not know that. I just hope he is not guilty and that he's photoshoped back.

I just can't deal with another SaviOr deception.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
February 02 2016 17:16 GMT
#918
On February 03 2016 02:10 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 02:05 orllyfools wrote:
Why aren't more people talking about how this happened to someone on a Korean Telecom team. Which I can only imagine, are the biggest sponsors in the scene, right? Did the coaches in KT know something was up and that's why they'd let Life go on such a ridiculous trade?

It was said that the games in question were during his time on Startale and that Life requested his transfer away from KT. But maybe there is more underneath the surface.



Where was that bit about him being on Startale? The Life vs. ALive match that was apparently voided by pinnacle wouldn't fit that description because he played it on KT.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
February 02 2016 17:24 GMT
#919
On February 03 2016 02:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:56 showstealer1829 wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


Marineking wasn't charged. That's the difference


He is arrested on match fixing charges not charged on match fixing. There is a difference.

MarineKing was also introgated on match fixing charges. We are John Snow right now. We know nothing.

Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:53 Silvana wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


He's not gonna play for Afreeca for sure. They already Photoshopped him out of the team picture.


I did not know that. I just hope he is not guilty and that he's photoshoped back.

I just can't deal with another SaviOr deception.


I know you want to believe he's innocent, that's cool but you don't get arrested unless there's some pretty clear evidence that says you're going to get a conviction and I'd say it would be double with a huge name like Life because of the backlash if he's not charged or not convicted.

Face it dude they think your boy is guilty as sin
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 02 2016 17:25 GMT
#920
On February 03 2016 01:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 01:53 Silvana wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:46 Popkiller wrote:
On February 03 2016 01:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 03 2016 00:10 raff1001 wrote:
There is no reason to enjoy this game anymore without the best Zerg of this game,the only one able to win over the reign of different toss and terran. Thank you for all that you have done for us.One mistake won't change years of succes.
Long Life to Life.
#pray4Life#freeLife


ONE MORE FUCKING TIME !

Life is NOT CONVICTED YET. We do not know what is happening.


So are you saying you think we'll see Life playing SC2 again, competing? Do you really think that might happen?


If he is not guilty i don't see why not. MarineKing still plays...


He's not gonna play for Afreeca for sure. They already Photoshopped him out of the team picture.

I'm way more intrigued by the fact that Leenock was photoshopped into the KT team picture. Looks so weird.


Haha yes.

It seems they don't plan on cutting Life from the KT PL teaser tho, and they're probably not going to air it with Life in it. Too bad because it's the best teaser of all teams!
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