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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote: Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed. This goes for other players too. -The_Templar | ||
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20-Minute-Jackal
United States336 Posts
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Dabble
39 Posts
On February 02 2016 09:41 MifuneKinski wrote: How long can they hold him, will they eventually post bail? It seems like he's been held a long time! Also yeah the transfer to afreeca seems quite the coincidence, my pet theory is the coach's/team strongly suspected something was up and he asked for a transfer only for the house of Cards to fall around him. But who knows?! I hope he's innocent, until we find out more info tho from official sources our brain festers If KT knew and traded him with that knowledge there would be some serious legal implications for KT. To me that is evidence they didn't have that information, rather than the other way around. If for example they had been approached by authorities in the investigation then they would know, making the trade of questionable legality. | ||
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On February 02 2016 08:58 Penev wrote: No, but it is quite the coincidence. I'm intrigued by it as well. Agreed. For whatever reason I would not be surprised if at least one of the two teams knew about this entire situation. Anyway, I'm still somewhat optimistic that everything is just a misunderstanding. Or that Life got pressured to throw the games. I just don't know for what other reason someone like Life, who's been at the top of the scene for years, should throw a game on purpose for some additional bucks. On the other side, kids are definitely more susceptible to threats or pressure. Which would also explain why someone like Life would be involved in something like that. | ||
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nighcol
298 Posts
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
On February 02 2016 10:09 nighcol wrote: Having mentioned those detention limits... Was there ever any news about Yoda/Gerrard/B4 after their arrest? They should at least be indicted at this point... Waiting on / going through the Korean legal process, eventually into fines and maybe even a little jail sentence, ultimately culminating in social stigma and difficulty in obtaining future employment. What other news could you be expecting? As much as we'd like to pretend how match-fixing is such a huge deal that is responsible for the downfall of our beloved game, it really isn't, especially for lower level players and teams such a B4 and Prime. We "forgot" about the Prime scandal faster than how we "forgot" that in Chicago, police had been secretly kidnapping people and placing them into illegal detention centers, and much faster than how children in Africa today are still starving. We bandwagon because the thread is always at the top of the SC2 general section, but honestly, who gives a fuck. Just how many spectators are such hardcore fans that to them, Life = SC2? Most of us will go on watching and playing. | ||
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nighcol
298 Posts
On February 02 2016 10:34 EngrishTeacher wrote: We bandwagon because the thread is always at the top of the SC2 general section, but honestly, who gives a fuck. Just how many spectators are such hardcore fans that to them, Life = SC2? Most of us will go on watching and playing. Yeah, I've never been worried about the foreign scene shifting away because of matchfixing. My worries are more about the Korean scene based on how much the SavioR incident has been blamed for the death of BW. Even there I guess the main problem was sponsors walking away. | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On February 02 2016 11:01 nighcol wrote: Yeah, I've never been worried about the foreign scene shifting away because of matchfixing. My worries are more about the Korean scene based on how much the SavioR incident has been blamed for the death of BW. Even there I guess the main problem was sponsors walking away. That's the main issue for the scene is the money leaving, sponsors don't want to be seen to be affiliated with match fixing and gambling rings. It's unfortunate but fans will still be fans and still play. | ||
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terranfun
4 Posts
Have you seen the way Life laughs? It gives a lot away about the persons moral integrity. That being said there is another top terran player I suspect involved in this and another top zerg. The whole thing is not over yet, until someone spills the beans on it all. Well at this stage, anything can happen and none of it was to ever make sense. Rationality cannot predict things. The korean chaebols have way too much power. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On February 02 2016 13:23 terranfun wrote: There was a conspiracy theory I read on why Life was arrested now this time. It is because Life was untouchable because he was part of the big name kespa team and the big companies did not want any negative scandals be associated i.e big company doesn't its reputation soiled. The police had evidence first, but waited until he switched teams. Have you seen the way Life laughs? It gives a lot away about the persons moral integrity. That being said there is another top terran player I suspect involved in this and another top zerg. The whole thing is not over yet, until someone spills the beans on it all. Sounds like just that, a conspiracy theory. The way he laughs gives what away? | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On February 02 2016 13:23 terranfun wrote: There was a conspiracy theory I read on why Life was arrested now this time. It is because Life was untouchable because he was part of the big name kespa team and the big companies did not want any negative scandals be associated i.e big company doesn't its reputation soiled. The police had evidence first, but waited until he switched teams. Have you seen the way Life laughs? It gives a lot away about the persons moral integrity. That being said there is another top terran player I suspect involved in this and another top zerg. The whole thing is not over yet, until someone spills the beans on it all. Let's not spread uninformed rumors. | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On February 02 2016 13:23 terranfun wrote: There was a conspiracy theory I read on why Life was arrested now this time. It is because Life was untouchable because he was part of the big name kespa team and the big companies did not want any negative scandals be associated i.e big company doesn't its reputation soiled. The police had evidence first, but waited until he switched teams. Have you seen the way Life laughs? It gives a lot away about the persons moral integrity. That being said there is another top terran player I suspect involved in this and another top zerg. The whole thing is not over yet, until someone spills the beans on it all. I love conspiracy; it helps me to distinguish fools from orrdinary people. Seriously, I believe you are smart enough not to believe that. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
/Facepalm Does the other terran player that in your opinion is involved, ALSO has a revealing laugh? Because, you know, why not. | ||
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shenlong
219 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16008 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:30 xtorn wrote: "The way he laughs" /Facepalm Does the other terran player that in your opinion is involved, ALSO has a revealing laugh? Because, you know, why not. then it's at least not INnoVation. he doesn't show such human face expressions. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:51 shenlong wrote: I really hope they don't punish Life too badly, he is still a kid. If he's found guilty, he'll never play SC2 for an audience in Korea again. Online, offline, whatever. And he'll most likely have trouble finding employment in his post-SC2 career. There is a legitimate possibility that he has completely fucked up his life, from what I understand of Korean society. This is a lose-lose situation for SC2 fans, no matter how you look at it. Lets say its up to us to decide his punishment. Well, either we send the message that match fixing is A-OK, not that big a deal at all, especially if youre a champ (which is backwards; if anyone should be excused its the dirt poor B teamers)... or we fuck over one of the greatest players of all time, who in all likelihood did 99.999% good for the scene and only 0.001% bad. Very sad situation. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On February 02 2016 17:59 Charoisaur wrote: then it's at least not INnoVation. he doesn't show such human face expressions. Maru then? | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 02 2016 13:26 Phredxor wrote: Sounds like just that, a conspiracy theory. The way he laughs gives what away? If he's tilting or not | ||
Poopi
France12904 Posts
On February 02 2016 10:34 EngrishTeacher wrote: Waiting on / going through the Korean legal process, eventually into fines and maybe even a little jail sentence, ultimately culminating in social stigma and difficulty in obtaining future employment. What other news could you be expecting? As much as we'd like to pretend how match-fixing is such a huge deal that is responsible for the downfall of our beloved game, it really isn't, especially for lower level players and teams such a B4 and Prime. We "forgot" about the Prime scandal faster than how we "forgot" that in Chicago, police had been secretly kidnapping people and placing them into illegal detention centers, and much faster than how children in Africa today are still starving. We bandwagon because the thread is always at the top of the SC2 general section, but honestly, who gives a fuck. Just how many spectators are such hardcore fans that to them, Life = SC2? Most of us will go on watching and playing. The problem is that B4/Yoda were on the bottom of the food.chain so you would expect few and not very important players to be arrested in the future. Whereas Life is the tip of the iceberg and on top of the food chain, there are probably a lot of other fixers. Edit: and korean sc2 is sc2, without it the game is pointless to watch and play because the best players would not be there. | ||
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MoonFan
Vietnam55 Posts
It sucks the we might never see Life-ling again. | ||
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