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Life arrested on match-fixing charges - Page 42
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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote: Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed. This goes for other players too. -The_Templar | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
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Penev
28512 Posts
On February 02 2016 06:28 Wuster wrote: BTW, here's the post referring to Life / Alive being voided. It was actually in a LR thread. Zero idea why this didn't make it into it's own thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/489777-s2sl-challenger-day-4-expect-all-ins-s3-2015?page=2#23 Ah, and at the end too. That's why I don't remember. | ||
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pr1de
38 Posts
On February 02 2016 05:41 ohmylanta1003 wrote: Seriously fuck yourself dude. You made an account like 2 days ago and have posted nothing but a gambling rumor that you made up and how shitty this community is. If you don't like this place or the emotions that we have for one of the faces of the game, leave. User was warned for this post You seem like a very nice chill layout person. If you really read this tread then you already know that i made a account especially for this. Life was my favorite player, i lost my old account, not gonna exlpain it again all over. So thats how you want it, if somebody thinks different then you, they must leave  People like you make me laugh so hard. I also dont know why people would stop playing sc2, why people say its a dead game if this is true, i hate that kind of mental thoughts. But you are free to think so short minded. Even if sc2 have no more pro players no more tournaments, i would still play sc2. But you are proberly right and you are a big fan of sc2 right? Proberly just a spectator and doesnt even play the game at all. | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
On February 02 2016 06:38 pr1de wrote: Proberly just a spectator and doesnt even play the game at all. As if this somehow is any solace to some of us old guard. I have been watching and playing BW on and off for over a decade now. At the end of the day, if we want our game to be taken seriously, and to continue to thrive in a meaningful way, you have to be able to attract spectators. Spectators keep the lights on. Spectators pay the bills. Without the spectators there are no televised matches, there is no money for websites like this one. Without them, there is no money for 'pro gamers'. So, sure, you can keep playing the game competitively. Nothing will ever kill SC2 just like nothing has yet killed competitive bowling, competitive archery, competitive contract bridge, competitive boxing, or competitive wrestling. But the whole notion of 'pro-gaming' depends on spectators watching, cheering, and supporting the players in one form or another. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On February 02 2016 06:42 EsX_Raptor wrote: Like the YellOw fever, his match fixing Hwas a sin no sAviOr could ever in his Life acquit. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! | ||
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
On February 02 2016 06:42 EsX_Raptor wrote: Like the YellOw fever, his match fixing Hwas a sin no sAviOr could ever in his Life acquit. eww.. that didnt even make sense | ||
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
seriously. This "humor" must end! That was a bannable offence IMO, lol. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On February 02 2016 06:50 SirKibbleX wrote: As if this somehow is any solace to some of us old guard. I have been watching and playing BW on and off for over a decade now. At the end of the day, if we want our game to be taken seriously, and to continue to thrive in a meaningful way, you have to be able to attract spectators. Spectators keep the lights on. Spectators pay the bills. Without the spectators there are no televised matches, there is no money for websites like this one. Without them, there is no money for 'pro gamers'. So, sure, you can keep playing the game competitively. Nothing will ever kill SC2 just like nothing has yet killed competitive bowling, competitive archery, competitive contract bridge, competitive boxing, or competitive wrestling. But the whole notion of 'pro-gaming' depends on spectators watching, cheering, and supporting the players in one form or another. If you are implying spectators are more important than player base, I gotta disagree. I don't watch any games I don't play. There can be a game with a lot of players and no spectators, but there can't be a game with a lot of spectators and no players. E-sports evolve from players bases, not out of thin air. Maybe I just don't get it and there are people who spend hours watching games they never played. Seems far fetched to me, especially in e-sports. All my friends that stopped playing no longer watch either unless I tell them to tune into finals or something. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
On February 02 2016 07:07 cheekymonkey wrote: seriously. This "humor" must end! That was a bannable offence IMO, lol. maybe you justin dont get it good sense of humor is a luxury not many have darkelf | ||
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AKAvg
Brazil298 Posts
On February 02 2016 06:27 Penev wrote: Byul was vs MK with MK suspect Super was vs Inno with Inno suspect San was vs Dark with San suspect Soulkey was vs Creator with Soulkey suspect is what I remember. Damn where is that list All those players and, aside from the Prime ones, none of these were interrogated/arrested like Life is. One could assume that arresting a player is not the procedure unless a fairly substantial data is proven.  Feels like they are just digging out to find out more people involved in a (proven) scheme. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On February 02 2016 07:08 TRaFFiC wrote: If you are implying spectators are more important than player base, I gotta disagree. I don't watch any games I don't play. There can be a game with a lot of players and no spectators, but there can't be a game with a lot of spectators and no players. E-sports evolve from players bases, not out of thin air. Maybe I just don't get it and there are people who spend hours watching games they never played. Seems far fetched to me, especially in e-sports. All my friends that stopped playing no longer watch either unless I tell them to tune into finals or something. I played zero SC2 between 2011 and 2015, watched from 2013 to now religiously. Started playing again a couple of months ago. I'm not saying all people are like me, obviously, but at least some are. It is possible to have game with more watchers than players. | ||
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nighcol
298 Posts
On February 02 2016 06:27 Penev wrote: Byul was vs MK with MK suspect Super was vs Inno with Inno suspect San was vs Dark with San suspect Soulkey was vs Creator with Soulkey suspect is what I remember. Damn where is that list There was also Dream vs. Super where Super was the suspect player. It's talked about at least here on TL. | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On February 02 2016 07:51 pure.Wasted wrote: I played zero SC2 between 2011 and 2015, watched from 2013 to now religiously. Started playing again a couple of months ago. I'm not saying all people are like me, obviously, but at least some are. It is possible to have game with more watchers than players. No disrespect but doesn't that make you a player still? Even if you don't actively play currently, if you played the game before around 1 year I'm assuming because it was released in 2010 if I remember correctly. If you are talking about active players, there is no discussion about it majority of televised sports have way more viewers than active players, maybe with the exception of golf. However, if you consider how many of those viewers are viewers because they played the game when they were younger I think you will find more former/active players than viewers in most cases. | ||
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
On February 02 2016 08:05 MaCRo.gg wrote: No disrespect but doesn't that make you a player still? Even if you don't actively play currently, if you played the game before around 1 year I'm assuming because it was released in 2010 if I remember correctly. If you are talking about active players, there is no discussion about it majority of televised sports have way more viewers than active players, maybe with the exception of golf. However, if you consider how many of those viewers are viewers because they played the game when they were younger I think you will find more former/active players than viewers in most cases. alot of people follow sports they themself have not played, I know of a few friends who now follow fotball but never played it | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
I mean it can't have just gone Anakin style ("come to the dark side"/"No"/"I said come to the dark side!!!"/"oh, ok then") | ||
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
On February 02 2016 08:20 Gwavajuice wrote: I'm really curious about how the whole thing take place, how and when was he approached, was his entourage involved, what was deal, was the pressure strong, was he just being "suicidal" about his career, was he fed up with the game and progaming in general, ... I mean it can't have just gone Anakin style ("come to the dark side"/"No"/"I said come to the dark side!!!"/"oh, ok then") your guess is as good as all of ours | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On February 02 2016 08:20 Gwavajuice wrote: I'm really curious about how the whole thing take place, how and when was he approached, was his entourage involved, what was deal, was the pressure strong, was he just being "suicidal" about his career, was he fed up with the game and progaming in general, ... I mean it can't have just gone Anakin style ("come to the dark side"/"No"/"I said come to the dark side!!!"/"oh, ok then") On one hand I think he'd be crazy not to match fix. Playing sc2 is a thankless job for no money. He could have just been burnt out and wanted some guaranteed money. It's tough to kill yourself practicing for such a small chance to win a tournament. Plus someone else mentioned MC said that people threatened him to fix matches. If that is true, that would change things imo. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On February 02 2016 04:34 sc2chronic wrote: If you read my post you would clearly identify that im not in favour of cheating.bet of an existentialist aint ya? bottom line is fixing games is wrong. literally use that example in any major sport and see the reactions. but ur prob still gonna sit there and say "well everyone dies in the end eventually, why does anything matter?" this does matter and is a big deal whether u want it to be or not. ur not doing anyone favors by saying "match fixing is everywhere guys, its fine". my gripe is not solely on Life was wrong to do what he did (pending), but we wont get to see one of the greatest players of sc2 play again. closest one to bonjwa period. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On January 31 2016 18:18 Dodgin wrote: On a brighter note, Mvp confirmed GOAT. This is a good takeaway I think. | ||
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