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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 31 2016 18:52 GMT
#521
On February 01 2016 03:42 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 03:41 Captain Peabody wrote:
Wait...have we still not had a Protoss match-fixer yet, in either BW or SC2? Man, moraltoss fighting.

Makes sense.


Hell no. Because it is extremely hard to lose while playing it.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
January 31 2016 18:53 GMT
#522
On February 01 2016 03:50 liberate71 wrote:
You were the chosen one!

You were supposed to destroy the match fixers, not join them!

You were meant to bring balance to Starcraft, not leave it in darkness!

Not from his point of view !
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
January 31 2016 18:54 GMT
#523
On February 01 2016 03:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 03:42 Ansibled wrote:
On February 01 2016 03:41 Captain Peabody wrote:
Wait...have we still not had a Protoss match-fixer yet, in either BW or SC2? Man, moraltoss fighting.

Makes sense.
https://twitter.com/seedzzing/status/656061297256108034


So you mean that now that LotV's campaign has happened they can now match-fix?

Also this announcement that the cause of his arrest was in fact match-fixing isn't particularly surprising.

It's a little surprising that they specifically made a note that he was being arrested for receiving money. This means they have evidence to back up such a claim. I know he's technically innocent until proven guilty, but it seems like it might just be a formality at this point.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 31 2016 18:54 GMT
#524
On February 01 2016 03:50 fishjie wrote:
Holy shit. What if sOs victory at wcs was fake? That was such an epic finals. So sad so bad

But I don't get why it's illegal in Korea. Even though I dislike life the player and always rooted against him, it seems way too harsh to have him thrown in jail for losing at video games. Sure it ruins the integrity of the game, but at the end of the day it's just games played for entertainment. Why jail a kid for it

Its a gambling thing. Various crime organizations pay off peopel to match fix, so that they win money betting on the underdog.
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Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
January 31 2016 18:54 GMT
#525
On February 01 2016 03:45 ThePastor wrote:
I really hope it isn't true that Life did it, it seems harder and harder to accept that this isn't the case.

To be honest people are asking why, it isn't surprising that these things happen. Think logically, if you are a pro-gamer and you know eventually you have to go to the military, you know that eventually your skills will wane and eventually you will stop making money and have to go get a normal job/go to school...knowing all this someone offers you an obscene amount of money (it would have to be for a guy like Life) that would fix you up REAL good before eventually retiring, would you consider it? Okay I would like to say I would give them the middle finger, but lots of 0's on a figure can be super tempting...

Well so is stealing money from old people and scaming with Nigeria-mails aswell. Does not justify it at all.

Stop making up excuses like this, it is so bullshit. If Life have done what he is accused for he deserves to be put in jail.
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 19:08:38
January 31 2016 18:56 GMT
#526
On February 01 2016 03:50 liberate71 wrote:
You were the chosen one!

You were supposed to destroy the match fixers, not join them!

You were meant to bring balance to Starcraft, not leave it in darkness!


No, mate. What he wanted was money, unlimited money.

Greed is an red-eyed monster which doth mock.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 31 2016 18:57 GMT
#527
What if the bet-owner is "clever" and want to destroy Life/SC2? Maybe he found out Life's bank number and transferred some money without Life knowing?
Or maybe bet-owner wanted that matchfixing and Life declined his offer. Loss was indeed real and he transferred money dispite Life's decline?
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r_gg
Profile Joined August 2015
141 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 19:01:16
January 31 2016 18:58 GMT
#528
On February 01 2016 03:50 fishjie wrote:
Holy shit. What if sOs victory at wcs was fake? That was such an epic finals. So sad so bad

But I don't get why it's illegal in Korea. Even though I dislike life the player and always rooted against him, it seems way too harsh to have him thrown in jail for losing at video games. Sure it ruins the integrity of the game, but at the end of the day it's just games played for entertainment. Why jail a kid for it


Not trying hard is legal. Losing a game purposely is also legal.

But if you get involved with crime organizations to purposely manipulate the outcome for gambling, then its illegal. The pressure from these gambling orgs is already very high despite the activity being punished. If they just let things roam free then we'll literally not have a single clean game in ProLeague.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 31 2016 18:59 GMT
#529
On February 01 2016 03:57 Dingodile wrote:
What if the bet-owner is "clever" and want to destroy Life/SC2? Maybe he found out Life's bank number and transferred some money without Life knowing?
Or maybe bet-owner wanted that matchfixing and Life declined his offer. Loss was indeed real and he transferred money dispite Life's decline?

or maybe the illuminati replaced Life with a cyborg yeah
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 31 2016 19:00 GMT
#530
Also it's worth noting again that even savior (who did not "just" fix matches, but organized a fraudulent scheme) did not end up with a jail sentence. I would personally agree that jailing people just for manipulating some sports is silly, but it also does not really happen, so there is nothing to be mad about ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
January 31 2016 19:01 GMT
#531
On February 01 2016 03:59 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 03:57 Dingodile wrote:
What if the bet-owner is "clever" and want to destroy Life/SC2? Maybe he found out Life's bank number and transferred some money without Life knowing?
Or maybe bet-owner wanted that matchfixing and Life declined his offer. Loss was indeed real and he transferred money dispite Life's decline?

or maybe the illuminati replaced Life with a cyborg yeah

Time to bring out the tinfoil hats.
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
January 31 2016 19:02 GMT
#532
On February 01 2016 03:57 Dingodile wrote:
What if the bet-owner is "clever" and want to destroy Life/SC2? Maybe he found out Life's bank number and transferred some money without Life knowing?
Or maybe bet-owner wanted that matchfixing and Life declined his offer. Loss was indeed real and he transferred money dispite Life's decline?

According to Catz and Hydra there were a lot of rumors beforehand that Life was matchfixing. That doesn't sound like someone wanted to be clever and destroy Life but more like progamers have made the observations themselves that Life may be fixing because of some games or his spending habits or something like that.
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 31 2016 19:06 GMT
#533
On February 01 2016 04:02 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 03:57 Dingodile wrote:
What if the bet-owner is "clever" and want to destroy Life/SC2? Maybe he found out Life's bank number and transferred some money without Life knowing?
Or maybe bet-owner wanted that matchfixing and Life declined his offer. Loss was indeed real and he transferred money dispite Life's decline?

According to Catz and Hydra there were a lot of rumors beforehand that Life was matchfixing. That doesn't sound like someone wanted to be clever and destroy Life but more like progamers have made the observations themselves that Life may be fixing because of some games or his spending habits or something like that.


People always say "I knew it" anecdotes when something pops up. Take that with a grain of salt.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
January 31 2016 19:06 GMT
#534
On February 01 2016 04:00 opisska wrote:
Also it's worth noting again that even savior (who did not "just" fix matches, but organized a fraudulent scheme) did not end up with a jail sentence. I would personally agree that jailing people just for manipulating some sports is silly, but it also does not really happen, so there is nothing to be mad about ...

Yeah, people seem to forget this. Hard jail time is very unlikely.
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atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
January 31 2016 19:09 GMT
#535
has it been announced which games are suspected yet?
ThePastor
Profile Joined February 2012
New Zealand380 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 19:13:22
January 31 2016 19:10 GMT
#536
On February 01 2016 03:54 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 03:45 ThePastor wrote:
I really hope it isn't true that Life did it, it seems harder and harder to accept that this isn't the case.

To be honest people are asking why, it isn't surprising that these things happen. Think logically, if you are a pro-gamer and you know eventually you have to go to the military, you know that eventually your skills will wane and eventually you will stop making money and have to go get a normal job/go to school...knowing all this someone offers you an obscene amount of money (it would have to be for a guy like Life) that would fix you up REAL good before eventually retiring, would you consider it? Okay I would like to say I would give them the middle finger, but lots of 0's on a figure can be super tempting...

Well so is stealing money from old people and scaming with Nigeria-mails aswell. Does not justify it at all.

Stop making up excuses like this, it is so bullshit. If Life have done what he is accused for he deserves to be put in jail.


In no way did I justify his actions or make excuses. I stated why he might consider doing it. If he did it he can rot in jail just like people that steal from old people. I am not excusing his actions I am explaining why he might consider it.

Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
January 31 2016 19:13 GMT
#537
On February 01 2016 04:10 ThePastor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 03:54 Glorfindel! wrote:
On February 01 2016 03:45 ThePastor wrote:
I really hope it isn't true that Life did it, it seems harder and harder to accept that this isn't the case.

To be honest people are asking why, it isn't surprising that these things happen. Think logically, if you are a pro-gamer and you know eventually you have to go to the military, you know that eventually your skills will wane and eventually you will stop making money and have to go get a normal job/go to school...knowing all this someone offers you an obscene amount of money (it would have to be for a guy like Life) that would fix you up REAL good before eventually retiring, would you consider it? Okay I would like to say I would give them the middle finger, but lots of 0's on a figure can be super tempting...

Well so is stealing money from old people and scaming with Nigeria-mails aswell. Does not justify it at all.

Stop making up excuses like this, it is so bullshit. If Life have done what he is accused for he deserves to be put in jail.


In no way did I justify his actions or make excuses. I stated why he would consider doing it. If he did it he can rot in jail just like people that steal from old people. I am not excusing his actions I am explaining why he might consider it.



Well he needs air to breath and food to eat aswell.
"He might had needed money so he match fixed" - isnt really a Sherlock-observation. But thanks for sharing.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
`sawyer
Profile Joined June 2014
210 Posts
January 31 2016 19:15 GMT
#538
On February 01 2016 03:50 fishjie wrote:
Holy shit. What if sOs victory at wcs was fake? That was such an epic finals. So sad so bad


Can't fake that shit, no one is that good
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 31 2016 19:16 GMT
#539
On February 01 2016 04:09 atrox_ wrote:
has it been announced which games are suspected yet?


K reporter and C coach assumes that one of`em was vs Solar.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
January 31 2016 19:17 GMT
#540
Damn...so sad. Hope It's not true...
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