December Aligulac Balance Report - Page 5

Sapphire.lux

Romania2620 Posts

January 03 2016 11:56 GMT

#81

On January 02 2016 16:59 BronzeKnee wrote:

Protoss is pretty much in free fall, especially in PvZ (haven't had a win rate that imbalanced for three years, and PvZ is more imbalanced than ever), and yet nerfs are planned for Pylon Overcharge and the Adept... interesting.

It's also interesting how you conveniently forget to mention that there are 2 significant Zerg nerfs on the horizon: Zergling attack speed upgrade bonus decreased from 40% to 30% and Viper spell damage reduced from 90 to 60.

The PO i'd call more of a change rather then nerf, as it get stronger in some situations and not so much in others.

cheekymonkey

France1387 Posts

January 03 2016 12:51 GMT

#82

On January 03 2016 13:06 dainbramage wrote:

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What you're asking for is the bottom graph in the Aligulac report. But you run into the same problem here. Racial balance influences players' Elos, much like player skill influences overall winrates, so it'll always trend towards 0. The only thing it might help you with is determining how a change affects a matchup. E.g. if the map pool changes and you see zerg shoot up, you know the new pool is more zerg favourable than the last one - but only as a comparison to the previous pool, not that it's necessarily 'good'. And you'll see it fall back to even as Elos adjust.

Wow, I completely missed the bottom graph. It addresses my second question exactly. It can give some indication of imbalance though, by looking at the overall increase in ratings for each race. If a race on average got a higher ranking during the span of a month, then this implies that something has changed with the balance of the game/meta.

But I suspect that even the flat racial winrates will stabilize around 50% due to tournament qualification.

BronzeKnee

United States5218 Posts

January 04 2016 08:11 GMT

#83

On January 03 2016 20:56 Sapphire.lux wrote:

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I didn't mention the Zerg nerfs because Zerg isn't suffering. There is some irony when a race that is doing poorly is receiving nerfs without corresponding buffs.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

January 07 2016 15:26 GMT

#84

EDIT: oops posted this to the wrong thread!

royalroadweed

United States8301 Posts

January 07 2016 15:48 GMT

#85

lol that PvZ stat warms my cold black heart.