(Note: The placing of players in each group presumably gives them a higher seeding in terms of who they get for their Code A match. Listed here as first, second, and third).
(P)Trap vs (Z)Shine Didn't Shine retire, like 5-6 hours ago? Poor Maru & Taeja. Got protoss. Also, Life vs Bunny. Rematch. Curious if Life finds a way.
On December 29 2015 18:27 valas991 wrote: (P)Trap vs (Z)Shine Didn't Shine retire, like 5-6 hours ago? Poor Maru & Taeja. Got protoss. Also, Life vs Bunny. Rematch. Curious if Life finds a way.
Shine's gonna have to observe his own Code A games.
On December 29 2015 18:34 deacon.frost wrote: Dear vs sOs and Maru vs Zest? Was that a random draw? These 2 matches kills one of the big dogs(all 4 players are RO16 Code S material)
I think it's a mix of 1st/2nd/3rd place seeding and random draw. Hence Life vs Bunny even though they were in the same qualifying group.
On December 29 2015 18:34 deacon.frost wrote: Dear vs sOs and Maru vs Zest? Was that a random draw? These 2 matches kills one of the big dogs(all 4 players are RO16 Code S material)
I think it's a mix of 1st/2nd/3rd place seeding and random draw. Hence Life vs Bunny even though they were in the same qualifying group.
From a quick scan, it looks like 1st seed vs 3rd seed, 2nd vs 2nd
On December 29 2015 18:34 deacon.frost wrote: Dear vs sOs and Maru vs Zest? Was that a random draw? These 2 matches kills one of the big dogs(all 4 players are RO16 Code S material)
I think it's a mix of 1st/2nd/3rd place seeding and random draw. Hence Life vs Bunny even though they were in the same qualifying group.
From a quick scan, it looks like 1st seed vs 3rd seed, 2nd vs 2nd
There's also a bunch of 1 vs 2. E.g. Life vs Bunny, TY vs Patience, Maru vs Zest.
So now that the qualifiers are done, can we please start Proleague? :3
On December 29 2015 18:54 corydoras wrote: PartinG did not participate or am I missing something?
Nope, also didn't try for Starleague. Either retiring or going full Koreigner I guess.
... but, but, but... his GSL RO16 series ends! Not this way. Nooooooo.
I have a really bad feeling about this. Don't you dare retiring, Parting, losing Rain and Parting at the same time would broke my SC2 passion completely.
On December 29 2015 20:04 Dumbledore wrote: No way the big boy retires; he is still on top of his game.
Maybe, maybe not. He was in ridiculously good shape in the first 6 months of this year but then fell off hard, and his only decent showing since then was Dreamhack which only had 4 Koreans in it.
On December 29 2015 18:27 valas991 wrote: (P)Trap vs (Z)Shine Didn't Shine retire, like 5-6 hours ago? Poor Maru & Taeja. Got protoss. Also, Life vs Bunny. Rematch. Curious if Life finds a way.
Shine's gonna have to observe his own Code A games.
On December 29 2015 20:04 Dumbledore wrote: No way the big boy retires; he is still on top of his game.
Don't forget that big part of his show was a participation in foreign tournaments. That's now not that easy(nearly impossible). And he cannot return to any other KeSPA team than T1. Also he said he's not suitable for KeSPA team.
I think Shine didn't expect to be qualified. MC and JYP(GSL Korean commentator, former EG gamer) also participated but they couldn't make it. So i guess they worried not enough players would participate.
이원주(Lee Won Ju, Nickname : 동래굴링, pronounced "Dong-Rae-Guling") is the only qualified semi-pro player.
On December 29 2015 20:31 swissman777 wrote: What's up with poor maru posts? I know Terran is at a disadvantage but maru has a positive history against zest
On December 29 2015 20:31 swissman777 wrote: What's up with poor maru posts? I know Terran is at a disadvantage but maru has a positive history against zest
I dunno, I honestly expect Zest to bomb out.
The twitter says "As you guys saw... I saw Maru walking down the stairs with his outrageous look. He also had a lot of talk than usual."
On December 29 2015 22:00 A_needle_jog wrote: is there any way to see the Jaedong qualifier matches? Would love to see Jaedong versus Bomber and Jaedong versus BMW
Nah, GSL doesn't stream these and unfortunately the days of Khaldor filming them as they play are gone.
On December 29 2015 21:59 Mier19891 wrote: I have faith in TaeJa! His specialty was always surviving protoss early shenanigans (as well as late game). Let us not so easily forget the blink era!
P.S. Maru for the same reason
TaeJa has so much he can whine about, so he'll win this season
On December 29 2015 22:00 A_needle_jog wrote: is there any way to see the Jaedong qualifier matches? Would love to see Jaedong versus Bomber and Jaedong versus BMW
Nah, GSL doesn't stream these and unfortunately the days of Khaldor filming them as they play are gone.
Even if Khaldor always used the same phrases and had a shiny bald head I still miss him
On December 29 2015 21:59 Mier19891 wrote: I have faith in TaeJa! His specialty was always surviving protoss early shenanigans (as well as late game). Let us not so easily forget the blink era!
P.S. Maru for the same reason
TaeJa has so much he can whine about, so he'll win this season
Only if he says he's in a really bad condition first.
I like how Blizzards epic plan was to increase price pool across the board so more players have an easier time of making a living. Making it to Code S grants 2.5k, with two seasons per year you can make 5k by reaching Code S. Last year it was 1,5k for Code S while there where three tournaments. The new system probably is utter shit lol
On December 29 2015 23:21 Eiltonn wrote: I like how Blizzards epic plan was to increase price pool across the board so more players have an easier time of making a living. Making it to Code S grants 2.5k, with two seasons per year you can make 5k by reaching Code S. Last year it was 1,5k for Code S while there where three tournaments. The new system probably is utter shit lol
2*2.5 > 3*1.5 though. And in 2015 making Code S was less than 800$, that's a huge increase (although that was probably because of GOM).
On December 29 2015 23:21 Eiltonn wrote: I like how Blizzards epic plan was to increase price pool across the board so more players have an easier time of making a living. Making it to Code S grants 2.5k, with two seasons per year you can make 5k by reaching Code S. Last year it was 1,5k for Code S while there where three tournaments. The new system probably is utter shit lol
2*2.5 > 3*1.5 though. And in 2015 making Code S was less than 800$, that's a huge increase (although that was probably because of GOM).
Still, a 3rd season would have been great.
Yes but theres only 16 players in Code S. The overall price pool is barely higher then the 2015 GSLs and lower than 2014 GSLs. The new "higher" pricepool for 2016 comes at the price of only 16 players really benefiting of it and also Koreans cant participate in any non korean tournament. Plus the added risk of only 2 seasons per year so its easier to miss out on it. To me it seems Blizzard pretty much screwed the korean professionals.
On December 29 2015 23:21 Eiltonn wrote: I like how Blizzards epic plan was to increase price pool across the board so more players have an easier time of making a living. Making it to Code S grants 2.5k, with two seasons per year you can make 5k by reaching Code S. Last year it was 1,5k for Code S while there where three tournaments. The new system probably is utter shit lol
2*2.5 > 3*1.5 though. And in 2015 making Code S was less than 800$, that's a huge increase (although that was probably because of GOM).
Still, a 3rd season would have been great.
Yes but theres only 16 players in Code S. The overall price pool is barely higher then the 2015 GSLs and lower than 2014 GSLs. The new "higher" pricepool for 2016 comes at the price of only 16 players really benefiting of it and also Koreans cant participate in any non korean tournament. Plus the added risk of only 2 seasons per year so its easier to miss out on it. To me it seems Blizzard pretty much screwed the korean professionals.
Code S is 32 players and the prize pool per season for GSL is much higher than 2014 and 2015, especially in Code A.
On December 30 2015 00:18 Laserist wrote: Guy with the glasses aLive
On December 29 2015 23:21 Eiltonn wrote: I like how Blizzards epic plan was to increase price pool across the board so more players have an easier time of making a living. Making it to Code S grants 2.5k, with two seasons per year you can make 5k by reaching Code S. Last year it was 1,5k for Code S while there where three tournaments. The new system probably is utter shit lol
2*2.5 > 3*1.5 though. And in 2015 making Code S was less than 800$, that's a huge increase (although that was probably because of GOM).
On December 29 2015 23:21 Eiltonn wrote: I like how Blizzards epic plan was to increase price pool across the board so more players have an easier time of making a living. Making it to Code S grants 2.5k, with two seasons per year you can make 5k by reaching Code S. Last year it was 1,5k for Code S while there where three tournaments. The new system probably is utter shit lol
2*2.5 > 3*1.5 though. And in 2015 making Code S was less than 800$, that's a huge increase (although that was probably because of GOM).
Still, a 3rd season would have been great.
Yes but theres only 16 players in Code S. The overall price pool is barely higher then the 2015 GSLs and lower than 2014 GSLs. The new "higher" pricepool for 2016 comes at the price of only 16 players really benefiting of it and also Koreans cant participate in any non korean tournament. Plus the added risk of only 2 seasons per year so its easier to miss out on it. To me it seems Blizzard pretty much screwed the korean professionals.
Overall prize pool of GSL in 2016 = $154k Code S x 2 + $50k Code A S1 + $40k Code A S2 = $438k Overall prize pool of GSL in 2015 = $84k Code S x 3 + $8.6k Code A x2 = $269.2k
The bigger problem isn't about money, it's about overall less tournaments to play in.
450k is also what 3 2014 GSLs had in prices. So its still only an increase compared to 2015 where Gom probably had economical troubles. I expect weekend tournament viewership to decrease drastically thanks to blizzards dickmove. So maybe we only have to endure this bullshit for 1 season
On December 30 2015 00:58 Eiltonn wrote: 450k is also what 3 2014 GSLs had in prices. So its still only an increase compared to 2015 where Gom probably had economical troubles. I expect weekend tournament viewership to decrease drastically thanks to blizzards dickmove. So maybe we only have to endure this bullshit for 1 season
On December 30 2015 00:58 Eiltonn wrote: 450k is also what 3 2014 GSLs had in prices. So its still only an increase compared to 2015 where Gom probably had economical troubles. I expect weekend tournament viewership to decrease drastically thanks to blizzards dickmove. So maybe we only have to endure this bullshit for 1 season
You need to realize that if "viewership decreases drastically thanks to Blizzards dickmove", the next step isn't going to be "bring back the Koreans in weekend tournaments". The next step is going to be "no SC2 in weekend tournaments at all".
On December 30 2015 01:21 Thouhastmail wrote: Now I`m just wondering why every thread topics moves on to game bashing and blaming Blizzard.
Im usually not one to bash Blizzard since i am mainly thankful for giving us sc2 in a time where rts is not popular because people somehow like mobas more. But the new WCS system is just shit. Why would you ban Koreans from weekend tournaments? I dont care a lot about splitting WCS and Korean WCS. Having 8 of 16 people attending the pre-Blizzcon being non koreans through force is kinda stupid, but meh okay whatever then ill start watching from round of 8 onwards. Weekend tourneys without Koreans is something else though. I wont watch them when all my favourite plays aren´t allowed to attend. I feel like im being ripped off something which i genuinely enjoyed for no/dumb reasons.
On December 30 2015 00:58 Eiltonn wrote: 450k is also what 3 2014 GSLs had in prices. So its still only an increase compared to 2015 where Gom probably had economical troubles. I expect weekend tournament viewership to decrease drastically thanks to blizzards dickmove. So maybe we only have to endure this bullshit for 1 season
Adding two SSLs the prize money in Korea from those events alone are closing in on something like $700k, which is the biggest ever, then again, the big problem is the lack of chances/exposure due to only 4 events a year and maybe one or two Kespa Cups instead of 6 GSL/SSL then some.
On December 30 2015 00:58 Eiltonn wrote: 450k is also what 3 2014 GSLs had in prices. So its still only an increase compared to 2015 where Gom probably had economical troubles. I expect weekend tournament viewership to decrease drastically thanks to blizzards dickmove. So maybe we only have to endure this bullshit for 1 season
You need to realize that if "viewership decreases drastically thanks to Blizzards dickmove", the next step isn't going to be "bring back the Koreans in weekend tournaments". The next step is going to be "no SC2 in weekend tournaments at all".
no difference for me because I won't watch it anyway. no KR no watch.
On December 30 2015 00:58 Eiltonn wrote: 450k is also what 3 2014 GSLs had in prices. So its still only an increase compared to 2015 where Gom probably had economical troubles. I expect weekend tournament viewership to decrease drastically thanks to blizzards dickmove. So maybe we only have to endure this bullshit for 1 season
You need to realize that if "viewership decreases drastically thanks to Blizzards dickmove", the next step isn't going to be "bring back the Koreans in weekend tournaments". The next step is going to be "no SC2 in weekend tournaments at all".
no difference for me because I won't watch it anyway. no KR no watch.
I don't think it's too hard to recognise that StarCraft being successful globally will be good for Korea too.
On December 30 2015 03:18 Kitai wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but I thought TaeJa retired? >.>
He's been talking about his retirement for ages, but so far he's never gone through with it. Though his 2015 was extremely inactive.
He's waiting for enlistment. A while ago, he said that it was "full" so he couldn't go when he wanted. I assume most pros that are retiring but still playing are waiting for the same thing. Spots to open.
Who is this Elroye? His Liquipedia page was deleted for "not being notable enough". But here he is, going full man-mode by being the only foreigner to attempt the Code A Qualifiers in how many years... and only ONE GAME AWAY from qualifying??
On December 29 2015 18:27 valas991 wrote: (P)Trap vs (Z)Shine Didn't Shine retire, like 5-6 hours ago? Poor Maru & Taeja. Got protoss. Also, Life vs Bunny. Rematch. Curious if Life finds a way.
Life actuall beat Bunny 2-0 in the Code A Qualifier to advance
On December 30 2015 06:02 Jeremy Reimer wrote: Who is this Elroye? His Liquipedia page was deleted for "not being notable enough". But here he is, going full man-mode by being the only foreigner to attempt the Code A Qualifiers in how many years... and only ONE GAME AWAY from qualifying??
He went 2-1 against Life!!
up and coming swiss player. He's used to take games of koreans, got 2-1ed by Hyun last DH.
On December 29 2015 18:27 valas991 wrote: (P)Trap vs (Z)Shine Didn't Shine retire, like 5-6 hours ago? Poor Maru & Taeja. Got protoss. Also, Life vs Bunny. Rematch. Curious if Life finds a way.
Life actuall beat Bunny 2-0 in the Code A Qualifier to advance
His point was that Elroye isn't korean. Bunny is..
ayy, I'm still worried for Zest, as all Zest's fan should be with how inconsistent he is... but then both Maru and Zest failed to qualify for SSL so their match should be extremely amazing to watch, or at least that's what I think and if the Shine playing the is same Shine that retired, I would be so mad because he still qualifies for the thing, if only his spot could be given to MC, but that would probably never happen.
What's funny is that outside of maybe 2 matches (impact vs solar, Bbyong vs LWJ) there isn't a single result that would surprise me. Taeja loses to Blaze? It's a miracle he got this far! INno loses to Stork? Something something INno protoss. Jjakji beats Classic? Of course he does, dudes been legit since last year's Blizzcon, LotV just gave him the fresh start he needed.
I'll believe literally anything. Except Impact having a snowball's chance in the inferno.
On December 30 2015 15:32 shid0x wrote: Where will the Code A match take place ? The same PC bang or GSL studio ?
the latter, because it`ll be aired.
Ah sweet i can go there then :D Looks like its gonna be a long day tho.
i imagine three best of 5's a day
They have 8 days of Code A assuming they keep the Wednesday/Friday schedule, they'll have to have 4 series on most days.
Last year they spilled over into 3/4 days for Code A, and given the reduced SSL schedule I can see them doing it again. Alternatively, Proleague has yet to be announced, so they could use Monday / Tuesday for the time being
On December 30 2015 15:32 shid0x wrote: Where will the Code A match take place ? The same PC bang or GSL studio ?
the latter, because it`ll be aired.
Ah sweet i can go there then :D Looks like its gonna be a long day tho.
i imagine three best of 5's a day
They have 8 days of Code A assuming they keep the Wednesday/Friday schedule, they'll have to have 4 series on most days.
Last year they spilled over into 3/4 days for Code A, and given the reduced SSL schedule I can see them doing it again. Alternatively, Proleague has yet to be announced, so they could use Monday / Tuesday for the time being
Code A starts January 8 and ends February 3rd, I don't see why they would stretch it out by that many days considering LotV BO5s probably aren't that long.
On December 30 2015 15:32 shid0x wrote: Where will the Code A match take place ? The same PC bang or GSL studio ?
the latter, because it`ll be aired.
Ah sweet i can go there then :D Looks like its gonna be a long day tho.
i imagine three best of 5's a day
They have 8 days of Code A assuming they keep the Wednesday/Friday schedule, they'll have to have 4 series on most days.
Last year they spilled over into 3/4 days for Code A, and given the reduced SSL schedule I can see them doing it again. Alternatively, Proleague has yet to be announced, so they could use Monday / Tuesday for the time being
Code A starts January 8 and ends February 3rd, I don't see why they would stretch it out by that many days considering LotV BO5s probably aren't that long.
Oh where did they announce the full schedule? I must have missed that
On December 30 2015 15:32 shid0x wrote: Where will the Code A match take place ? The same PC bang or GSL studio ?
the latter, because it`ll be aired.
Ah sweet i can go there then :D Looks like its gonna be a long day tho.
i imagine three best of 5's a day
They have 8 days of Code A assuming they keep the Wednesday/Friday schedule, they'll have to have 4 series on most days.
Last year they spilled over into 3/4 days for Code A, and given the reduced SSL schedule I can see them doing it again. Alternatively, Proleague has yet to be announced, so they could use Monday / Tuesday for the time being
Code A starts January 8 and ends February 3rd, I don't see why they would stretch it out by that many days considering LotV BO5s probably aren't that long.
Oh where did they announce the full schedule? I must have missed that
On December 30 2015 22:56 Jj_82 wrote: A single bo5 to Code S still seems so harsh. Yes, I'm thinking of Maru vs Zest. I can't even imagine a Code S without any of the two t.t
Oh, wow. I didn't realize this is it.
That is really really really bad. Maru is one bo5 away from not playing in half of Korean premiers for 2016, and it isn't even January yet.
I still think it is ansolutely ridiculous and pathetic how little korean leagues there are this year. Seriously, this cant possibly be all? There has to be more to be Announced..right? What a joke.. January and we already know the ro16 and Code a matches of half of all korean individual leagues..
On January 01 2016 04:29 bjornkavist wrote: Taeja gonna try and tear up LOTV Code A? Oh baby I hope he doesn't dissapoint
I am not putting my hopes up. I would LOVE to see him do well and play serious again but I think his wrists are too big of an issue for him to be able to put enough practice
On December 31 2015 20:49 evolsiefil wrote: I still think it is ansolutely ridiculous and pathetic how little korean leagues there are this year. Seriously, this cant possibly be all? There has to be more to be Announced..right? What a joke.. January and we already know the ro16 and Code a matches of half of all korean individual leagues..
The issue runs deeper than just the number of tournaments. I would argue that 2013 and 2014s 3 premiers, even without end of season WCS events, would be preferable to the 4 we have now.
Not only will there be a massive break between the two seasons, but the two tournaments we have run concurrently. That means anyone who hasn't adjusted to LOTV yet, anyone who's taking a break, anyone who's just having a rough TWO WEEKS, will have their results impacted for 50% of the years tournaments. Not even 33% as it would have been back in 2013.
But wait there's still Blizzard's cross tournament! Not if you don't play the other tournaments there isn't. Blizzcon? Good luck racking up enough points when you've missed two seasons and the cross tournament based on two weeks.
I don't know who or why thought it was a good idea for SSL and GSL to run concurrently if we lose two tournaments and half of every SSL besides.
I was never huge on Proleague but this year I don't think I'll have a choice.
Does anybody know how to attend the games ? A friend of mine will be in Seoul very soon and he's looking for any information concerning the location of Afreeca TV studio for GSL code A and also if it is just possible to go there and watch the games or if you have to subscribe on a website or buy tickets or...
On January 05 2016 18:56 cortesmaltose wrote: Does anybody know how to attend the games ? A friend of mine will be in Seoul very soon and he's looking for any information concerning the location of Afreeca TV studio for GSL code A and also if it is just possible to go there and watch the games or if you have to subscribe on a website or buy tickets or...
EPT![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b9ZxVQN.png)
INnoVation, 
Super, 
DeParture | Group B: 
이원주
Protoss: 18 | 
Terran: 20 | 
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2su1VKx.png)
![[image loading]](https://blueberryandpinks.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/leonardo-di-caprio-walking-movie-9gag-joke.png?w=341&h=462)
, 7
, 13
