Legacy of the Void Ending cutscene

On November 10 2015 12:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
And so completes my trilogy of having seen the ending cutscene for each game while having never played the campaign

On November 11 2015 17:42 schmutttt wrote:
OK, so yes it was awful. Lets try and interpret the ending:

- Raynor commits suicide
- Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending

What do we think?

On November 12 2015 07:34 royalroadweed wrote:
What was with the "growth on barren worlds through out the Koprulu sector"? Set up for SC3?

On November 12 2015 07:34 royalroadweed wrote:
What was with the "growth on barren worlds through out the Koprulu sector"? Set up for SC3?

On November 12 2015 12:48 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
He just saw a redhead just looking like Sarah come in the bar and said to himself "fuck it time to move on" so he quit his marshal job and left to bang the new chick.

On November 12 2015 07:34 royalroadweed wrote:
What was with the "growth on barren worlds through out the Koprulu sector"? Set up for SC3?

On November 12 2015 07:34 royalroadweed wrote:
What was with the "growth on barren worlds through out the Koprulu sector"? Set up for SC3?

On November 14 2015 01:46 SuperYo1000 wrote:
big surprise sc2 community complains


Ending was fine. Wrapped up everything. Wasnt any more cheesy then sc1/broodwar endings ( broodwar was cheesiests)

On November 14 2015 02:16 gumshoe wrote:
There really is no reason to consider the scuicde theory, scuicide theories work when the imagined happy ending is way too farfetched to be real / : but there are several points that actually favour this ending

1:kerrigan=literal god. not too difficult to hold a little power back to give her and jim the ending they deserve.

2:raynor =notabitch: raynor has been in far worse spots before (both in times of peace and war so the whole he no longer has a battle to fight dont got much credence)

3:would be kinda funny if it's not actually kerrigan and just ouros bieng a dick again(seriously the tassador bit slayed me, what a troll)

On November 12 2015 02:26 Plexa wrote:

- Jim Raynor is abducted into the void where Kerrigan resides for eternity

On November 12 2015 09:12 Cricketer12 wrote:
no way will they add a fourth race, that would take years of balancing...

On November 16 2015 03:15 heishe wrote:


They did it with WC3 :D

On November 11 2015 17:42 schmutttt wrote:
OK, so yes it was awful. Lets try and interpret the ending:

- Raynor commits suicide
- Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending

What do we think?

On November 16 2015 03:37 ejozl wrote:
Why did she wait 2 years to come say hi to Jim?

On November 19 2015 11:09 wongfeihung wrote:

She was off doing things... and stuff.

On November 14 2015 02:24 FeyFey wrote:
And I am really not sure, but I can't imagine many things that are darker then the Sc2 story. I mean Zeratul who had to witness the downfall of his beloved leader and then ending her life with his own hands. Then he goes on a quest to somehow redeem himself. And what happens. An imprisoned entity contacts him, lying to him, leading him on a false trail speaking about the destruction of everything.
At the same time Kerrigan finds out about this Prophecy and goes on her frenzy (wonder who set her off about this prophecy) . All of this just helps Duran revive his Master. Which is exactly what the Xel Naga wants, he doesn't care about the sector he wants to start the cycle again. And for that he uses Zeratul, not interfering with the plans of Duran and Amon, but subtly placing his pieces on the board, so that Amon might be stopped but only after everything went to shit. Making sure they will come to him so he can convince them to start the Xel Naga cycle again and revive his race by doing this.
So yeah I am really glad Zeratul couldn't see the end ... that would have shattered his soul 10 fold.
Really enjoyed the Story, pretty awesome for a rts.
Oh for the Raynor thing, he is a trusty guy. So if Xel Naga Kerrigan looks back and tells him he has to survive, then he sure as hell will do so.

On November 12 2015 04:05 Hider wrote:
Also a bit surprised noone else has mentioned this, but aren't the graphics pretty outdated?
I mean I don't care that much about the graphics while playing an RTS, but for cutscenes I expect higher quality.

On December 10 2015 14:56 BreAKerTV wrote:
Tbh with you guys I remember being ten or 12, finishing all the campaigns to SC vanilla and brood war, and then thinking to myself - with the tone of game that Blizzard made Starcraft out to be in that era, that maybe Jim would've tried a straight-shot at Char, and the final mission of LoTV would involve Jim driving a vulture with a nuke strapped on to it as close to the queen of blades as possible before nuking both himself and her.

(I am not joking, this is kind of how I fantasized the conclusion of Starcraft II when I was just a bot some 10 or 15 years ago).

Instead we got all of these silly missions like fighting the Queen of Blades at the end of WoL like it was some "mystical boss fight." that I would have expected from, say, World of Warcraft, and then some where we play as Kerrigan at the end of LoTV.

On December 11 2015 01:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:


When I was a kid, I was actually imagining a last stand mission where Raynor is defending against Kerrigan and once all his defenses are broken Kerrigan asks hims:

"Why keep fighting? What do you even have left to fight for?"

And Jim responds

"Friends"

and then he and his crew gets warped out by artanis as the golden armada warps in and incinerates the planet.

On December 11 2015 02:30 cheekymonkey wrote:


You could have been a blizzard story writer.

On December 10 2015 18:48 Cptn wet pants wrote:
Turns out Raynor was just in rehab and the entire story was him being delusional while cutting clean. When he says "Hell It's about time", it means he is getting dismissed from rehab and is finally sober. At least thats how I understood the entire story (kind of like the Suckerpunch movie).

On December 19 2015 06:03 Nazara wrote:
That genuinely made me laugh. Good job sir, but yeah, I kinda wish this was the truth.
Or, the whole story is a vision that Infested Kerrigan inflicted on some poor Protoss/Terran, so he chases non-existent prophecy for some yet unknown to us reason... and we start again, sci-fi this time, no high fantasy.

Zerg are Orcs - once controlled by the evil deity, with no free will, but are good at heart
Overmind is under evil influence and creates Kerrigan to free Zerg - Lich King is a prisoner and creates Arthas to be his general, who later becomes the Lich King himself
Kerrigan becomes Zerg once again to kill Mengsk - Arthas seeks Frostmourne to kill Mal'Ganis
New Queen of Blades is not evil anymore - Thrall is not an evil warchief of previously evil Orcs
Zeratul is a vagabond prophet trying to unite Terran, Zerg and Protoss - Medivh is a vagabond prophet trying to unite Human, Orc and Night Elves.
Amon is returning - Archimonde is returning
Tychus, former prisoner, an ally, turns out to be the enemy/ally (complicated) - Illidian, former prisoner, an ally, turns out to be the enemy/ally (complicated)
Terran, formerly evil Zerg and spiritual/religious Protoss unite to fight ultimate evil - Humans, formerly evil Orcs and spiritual/religious Night Elves unite to fight ultimate evil
Protoss sacrifice the Khala to combat evil - Night Elves sacrifice their immortality to combat evil

Anyone wants to add to the list?

On December 19 2015 07:01 cheekymonkey wrote:


Some of those are not really that similar. First off, Zergs are nothing like orcs. More like animal, they are not good nor evil "at heart". They just simply follow command and if not, they just fight amongst themselves. Much more like the undead, if you ask me.

The Khala of the Protoss is their link to Amon, which he used to take control of them. Some believe it to be a blessing, but in reality it is a curse. This is nothing like sacrifice of the night elves. A more similar parallell is the demon blood of Mannaroth creating a link between him and the orcs. Then the other orcs have to fight the crazed orcs and at last free Grommash from the curse. Similar to how protoss fighting crazed protoss, and zeratul severing the cords of Artanis.

The link between Tychus and Illidan is very far fetched. Practically the only similarity is that they were both imprisoned.

Kerrigan and Mengsk were initially on the same side, and Mengsk betrayed her. After she turned zerg she seeked revenge and finally took it. Arthas and Mal'ganis were enemies, and after he turned "undead" he took his revenge, though just because the lich king said so because he had reasons for it. Some similarities, but not really.

It seems to me that you are seeing similarities where there are none just to validate your opinion on the unoriginality of the story. In my opnion the only annoying similarity between the stories between the warcraft universe and the sc universe is that the different races always have to ally themselves against a common enemy in the end, initiated by a prophet. Other than that the stories are pretty much different from each other. Some similarities of course but no copypaste.

On December 19 2015 07:59 Nazara wrote:
Yes they are. "I have come to tell you of this creature's... courage." and all that followed is nothing more then a humanization of Zerg, and portraying them as "no, they are not evil, they were made to do evil stuff, but they just want to be left alone".
This is exactly what happened to the Orcs.

On December 19 2015 07:59 Nazara wrote:Khala is something that connected the Protoss after the Aeon of Strife. Their life and culture is based on it. Losing Khala is like losing immortality, but this is not about Khala = Immortality, but rather "spiritual and religious race has to sacrifice part of its identity to fight evil". Blizzard failed to portray how losing the connection to Khala should be traumatizing, and I have seen enough posts here and on Blizzards forum to conclude that people wanted to see Protoss being traumatized by the procedure

How this is supposed to be a copy paste of the wc3 story of orcs is beyond me.

On December 19 2015 18:56 hitthat wrote:


Simple.
Orcs W1, W2 - chaotic evil; Orcs W3 - savage, but not evil (corrupted)
Zergs SC1 - plain straigh omnicidal galactic pests; Zerg SC2 - wild, but not omnicidal (corrupted)
Manaroth evil influence = orcs corrupted. Amon evil influence = zergs corrupted.
How this ISN'T supposed to be copypaste of orcs is beyond me.

On December 19 2015 23:12 cheekymonkey wrote:
You are just pointing to one superficial similarity in that they are both "corrupted" somehow. Doesn't make it a copypaste.

On December 20 2015 00:35 hitthat wrote:


In the same sense that "Magnifficent seven" isn't in its core americanized copypaste of "Seven Samurai". I can find some differences and say "its not the same old story at all", and yet it still remained not true. Nazara already explained you what makes Zergs orcish. Its about lazy recycling of all the motives over and over again by Blizzard. And in its central story-wise core, Zergs came the same path as Orcs. I dont think saying they are now "space orcs" is unjustified. Actually, I am convinced its otherwise.

On December 20 2015 01:05 Thieving Magpie wrote:
The only thing the same is that they are both bad guys. That's it. Even the corrupted storyline is not very accurate since Zerg aren't corrupted either--that's the Protoss.

On December 20 2015 01:29 hitthat wrote:


After that line - I gave up...
We seriously played completelly different game. Not even seeing differences between "corrupted" and "mind-controled"

On December 20 2015 01:54 hitthat wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRk_ZBQ0C2E

You are argue against the very fact that Zergs were altered (read: corrupted!) and their urge for destruction " was forced upon them". It is directly said they WERE corrupted.

As i said in Protoss campaign is mind-controlling puppet mastering.

And no, undead are not alike of Zergs in that sense, since they were never altered in the first place. Their orriginal purpose and only reason they exist was creation of (un)living weapon over anything all. Blight and creep is only gameplay simmilarity, not lore-wise.

On December 20 2015 06:17 Nazara wrote:
I don't think that sc2 has set up any logical kind of story for sc3. Anything that happens will always be countered by "why Kerrigan didn't stop this or that" or rather "where is space angel gone?", and if it turns out that Kerrigan dies somehow, that puts the whole campaign of sc2 into jeopardy by questioning "if xel Naga are so easily killed, why so much fuss about amon? Just drop the nuke/purify the planet".
I would rather see a reboot with a new writer.

On November 11 2015 17:42 schmutttt wrote:
OK, so yes it was awful. Lets try and interpret the ending:

- Raynor commits suicide
- Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending

What do we think?

On November 12 2015 07:34 royalroadweed wrote:
What was with the "growth on barren worlds through out the Koprulu sector"? Set up for SC3?

On November 12 2015 09:12 Cricketer12 wrote:
no way will they add a fourth race, that would take years of balancing...

On November 12 2015 15:05 Icysoul wrote:
I think its an open ending. It could be cheesy happy or really dark depending on how you look at it. For me personally, i think having Kerrigan turned back into a human from a god within an arbitrary time frame of 2 years is way outside of plausibility, even with everything happening in the story. I think you could also see hints of the past haunting him, or atleast affecting him in an ambiguous way. So i interpreted as raynor going a bit crazy or got too drunk for his own good. I'm actually surprised how most of you interpreted as a cheesy happy ending.

But in the end, it was left open for our imagination, open to our own interpretations based on our own life experiences.