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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting.

As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 19 2015 03:51 GMT
#681
Guys its the same old story once again. These guys don't make a whole lot of money to begin with and a lot of them are just kids. They don't understand the ramifications even though its happen so many times now we've lost count.

allegations be real
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 19 2015 03:52 GMT
#682
On October 19 2015 12:49 geokilla wrote:
There's one thing I don't understand. How can KeSPA differentiate bad play from match fixing? Where do they get the evidence?


I assume you take the "bad play" matches that are especially suspicious and investigate the players. Then if you find any information you trade more lenient sentences for more information and keep going until you can't go anymore
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2015 03:52 GMT
#683
On October 19 2015 12:49 geokilla wrote:
There's one thing I don't understand. How can KeSPA differentiate bad play from match fixing? Where do they get the evidence?


Because the Korean police are investigating. They could have found bookie contacts, bookie documents, etc. Which is exactly why forum goers have no right making accusations. if KeSPA and the police are holding back for more information, I wonder how someone on the internet can feel they have more authority to declare guilt.
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jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
October 19 2015 03:55 GMT
#684
On October 19 2015 12:49 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:46 jinyung2 wrote:
On October 19 2015 12:27 Seeker wrote:


Seed says that in his 14 - 15 years of progaming, he's earned a total of $100,000 but he has never wanted to participate in matchfixing. He doesn't understand the mindset of people who do.

isnt 1000 = 1000만 so its roughly 10k not 100k?

You are correct. I've been quickly translating things without much room for though so I made a mistake.

lol no worries, it happens im sure there are ppl in the thread who will correct you if there is mistranslation
Argentina
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 19 2015 03:55 GMT
#685
On October 19 2015 12:49 geokilla wrote:
There's one thing I don't understand. How can KeSPA differentiate bad play from match fixing? Where do they get the evidence?


The evidence comes from the other end--from the broker side of things I think. And it's the justice system that's investigating, not KeSPA.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
October 19 2015 03:56 GMT
#686
So the only players confirmed involved were Gerrard and Yoda? That's something at least, hopefully it wasn't systemic at all then.

One of those updates says it was only 3 bettors who were arrested, I wonder if there were more they didn't get to, or if it was just those 3 throwing down the thousands and thousands that would be necessary to swing the betting lines as much as we ended up seeing in the canceled pinnacle bets.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 19 2015 04:04 GMT
#687
is the former champion thing a rumor or not?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 19 2015 04:05 GMT
#688
Is it a surprise? It was just a matter of time.
Only YoDa and Gerrard though? Eh, I guess they took for the rest.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2015 04:05 GMT
#689
On October 19 2015 13:04 Shock710 wrote:
is the former champion thing a rumor or not?


YoDa is a former IEM champion. Probably him, but does not preclude another former champion being implicated
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
October 19 2015 04:06 GMT
#690
On October 19 2015 12:51 StarStruck wrote:
Guys its the same old story once again. These guys don't make a whole lot of money to begin with and a lot of them are just kids. They don't understand the ramifications even though its happen so many times now we've lost count.

allegations be real


heh but there have been enough incidents that this spiel doesn't fly any more. fool me once...
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
October 19 2015 04:07 GMT
#691
On October 19 2015 13:05 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 13:04 Shock710 wrote:
is the former champion thing a rumor or not?


YoDa is a former IEM champion. Probably him, but does not preclude another former champion being implicated

On October 19 2015 12:12 Seeker wrote:
In regards to the news articles stating that "a former champion was arrested," they were talking about YoDa (who won an IEM). Looks like FOR NOW, everyone else is safe.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 19 2015 04:08 GMT
#692
well, there were several suspicious matches and we've had Rekrul already mention that matchfixing is rampant and everyone knows about it a while back so this isn't surprising. I mean, the OP even say something like $10,000 for fixing a single match. It's easy to see why Yoda might've gotten lured into fixing some matches, not that I agree with the reasoning.

I think it's good to see that anyone caught matchfixing is charged and arrested etc... hopefully puts a damper and pause for anyone else entertaining the idea or fixing themselves. Wonder if we'll get more info about the other people involved and such.
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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
October 19 2015 04:09 GMT
#693
I can't help but worry about marineking.
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
October 19 2015 04:14 GMT
#694
what i'm surprised about is that there are enough people in korea who would care to bet on sc2 matches..
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
October 19 2015 04:16 GMT
#695
This explains so much about the state of Prime...
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 19 2015 04:16 GMT
#696
oh
shit
:)
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
October 19 2015 04:16 GMT
#697
On October 19 2015 13:14 Specialist wrote:
what i'm surprised about is that there are enough people in korea who would care to bet on sc2 matches..

they bet on everything dude, id even make the assumption that a good chunk sc2 viewers are watching just to bet on it
Argentina
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
October 19 2015 04:18 GMT
#698
Funny thing is, MK was already investigated once(after he had played against byul) and turned out to be innocent.

c`mon hes only very, very bad at playing SC.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
October 19 2015 04:20 GMT
#699
On October 19 2015 13:09 zealotstim wrote:
I can't help but worry about marineking.

Marineking is done for. I really doubt he'll be able to shake the rumours no matter what the court judges.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4209 Posts
October 19 2015 04:22 GMT
#700
So shameful. I defended a lot of these people when these accusations started happening. Boy do I feel like a fool.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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