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_Sargas
Profile Joined November 2014
Italy5 Posts
October 12 2015 08:47 GMT
#61
On October 09 2015 00:54 Clonester wrote:
Every patch of Warcraft III killed all pre-patch replays.
So we just had multiple versions of Warcraft on our computers to watch different replays.




Thing is, in SC2 updates are compulsory.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 12 2015 10:51 GMT
#62
On October 12 2015 07:37 dcemuser wrote:
This used to be pretty common for early SC2 patches, yeah?

I think I remember back in the day that Day[9] was lamenting how he had to use an old client to watch his Patch 1.5 replays.

Maybe I'm mistaken though.

I think only WoL/HotS/LotV betas needed their own client until now.
JCoto
Profile Joined October 2014
Spain574 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 12:57:22
October 12 2015 12:50 GMT
#63
They will either come up with a solution (is not that hard to create a separate launcher for replay viewer) or we will have some workaround to do it.

I bet that downloading old versions of the client could do the trick, but that would imply using some trick to launch it offline.

In my opinion what they have done is pretty stupid, unless it is done because there is some update on the core code of the game for performance/anti-hack, which doesn't seem to be the case (sadly). The only reasonable reason is to cut client size significantly, because otherwise I think that the file packaging system thing should be doable with a decent amount of patience.

SC2 devs have gone full Dota2. UI revamp with bugs, client updated and 64-bit/DX11 support unoptimized, heavy performance loss, replay uncompatibility. Sadly they didn't copy the "update every minor glitch/work in the game every day" philosophy.
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States274 Posts
October 12 2015 14:28 GMT
#64
>inb4 gsl "ayyylmao we're releasing the replay packs of every tournament we've hosted for free!"
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12228 Posts
October 13 2015 16:55 GMT
#65
Given we have a viable way to watch them now, is there anyway we could push for the Inno and Byul games of GSL?
No will to live, no wish to die
EnPassant
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany3 Posts
October 13 2015 18:04 GMT
#66
Well, saw this too late and my client is already updated. Where do I get the old client? I don´t like the feeling that I have to rely on "cracked" versions pre 3.x to be able to watch my old replays. This can´t be the only solution, right?
DuckloadBlackra
Profile Joined July 2011
225 Posts
October 13 2015 20:50 GMT
#67
On October 09 2015 00:16 loft wrote:
Another day another QQ thread.

Really sick of all this "Community Feedback" that people beg the devs to listen to.

Seriously, what % of users would even watch an old replay? one that there's no VOD of?


You have to be kidding me... you're "THAT" guy who just because you don't care you think most people don't care either.

A lot of us have many important replays saved and it would be a HUGE negative if Activision Blizzard just threw that down the drain for no good reason.

It would even completely stop me from buying LOTV as I cannot support a company that makes such stupid decisions.
DuckloadBlackra
Profile Joined July 2011
225 Posts
October 13 2015 20:55 GMT
#68
On October 09 2015 07:19 TRaFFiC wrote:
I'm not a compulsive replay collector, but I do have about 30 which are great memories for me. GM/pro kills, amazing comebacks. great games. These are the replays I show off when friends come over who don't know sc2. -Pro players have their whole lives invested in this game and Blizz just comes along and deletes their memories. Think about players like Stephano, his IPL win etc. Now all that's left is screenshots.

What pisses me off is for what? Now my clan chat is MIXED with general chat. What a joke.


Exactly. I can't believe some of the completely unnecessary things they're doing which only makes things much worse. Especially the things that were good before they messed with them.

What in the world is going on over there...
iLycan
Profile Joined May 2015
7 Posts
November 20 2015 13:18 GMT
#69
omg blizzard give us already new patch so we can watch old school games jesus..
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
November 20 2015 15:31 GMT
#70
I used to watch my first games of sc2. It was really hilarious. Too bad this won't be possible for people anymore.
Psilo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States115 Posts
December 04 2015 09:06 GMT
#71
Anyone know if this is changing anytime soon in any way?

I've even downloaded old pirated copies and installed them and they still won't play the replays due to some errors.

This is the worst.
It's not a problem that the new version won't let us watch old replays.
The problem is that Blizzard is giving us zero ways in which to do it!
Zero!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-15 05:06:09
October 15 2016 05:05 GMT
#72
I realize this is a rather large bump but has anyone figured out a way to do this? I was feeling nostalgic and wanted to watch some old WoL reps. Unfortunately, the client has updated to the most recent version which obviously means that I can't watch reps anymore.

Only option I can think of is to reinstall HoTS and don't do any updates. I should be able to drop WoL reps in due to compatibility and I guess I'll just ignore my awful HoTS reps lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Garemie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States248 Posts
October 15 2016 05:11 GMT
#73
The only way is to legally install a copy of pre 3.0 SC2 from whatever source that may be. My opinion on the matter is if you legally own the game, it should be fine to find yourself a copy of the game pre-3.0
Bomber | CJ herO | Snute
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12228 Posts
October 15 2016 05:30 GMT
#74
On October 15 2016 14:05 BigFan wrote:
I realize this is a rather large bump but has anyone figured out a way to do this? I was feeling nostalgic and wanted to watch some old WoL reps. Unfortunately, the client has updated to the most recent version which obviously means that I can't watch reps anymore.

Only option I can think of is to reinstall HoTS and don't do any updates. I should be able to drop WoL reps in due to compatibility and I guess I'll just ignore my awful HoTS reps lol


Yeah you need to have a version of SC2 before the infamous patch saved on your computer. If you have that, just put your .sc2replay on the sc2switcher.exe icon in the "support" file of that version, and the game will launch the correct version. It takes a while to load if you have to change version of the game several times though.

I suppose you don't have a prepatched version saved since you're asking now, I can try and give you mine if you want, I don't know if that works though.
No will to live, no wish to die
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-15 06:28:58
October 15 2016 06:27 GMT
#75
If you use your cd installation with no internet, then launch your game and turn on the internet, would it work?

Or for WoL specifically, maybe just use your Hear of the Swarm cd install? Not sure if HotS cds included the neccessary WoL patches. Probably not. =[
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-15 16:33:38
October 15 2016 16:32 GMT
#76
thanks for the info. I found an old WoL installation so I tried dropping onto the main SCII.exe and the scIIswitcher.exe. I only managed to watch two reps. Everything else requires a patch it seems and that installs the new battle.net. I'm thinking of installing HoTS and trying to see if that at least gives me the ability to watch WoL reps only (I'll be satisfied with this since that's what I mostly played).

Extremely shitty move by Blizzard. Punish fans who bought WoL and HoTS with the inability to use an advertised part of the product. Can't believe this patch didn't meet much resistance when it came out. Guess most SCII folks don't care much about their reps.

edit: Nebuchad, thanks for the offer. Doubt it'll help though plus it probably contains your cd key and such, so I wouldn't feel right asking for a copy ^^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
October 15 2016 16:58 GMT
#77
On October 16 2016 01:32 BigFan wrote:
thanks for the info. I found an old WoL installation so I tried dropping onto the main SCII.exe and the scIIswitcher.exe. I only managed to watch two reps. Everything else requires a patch it seems and that installs the new battle.net. I'm thinking of installing HoTS and trying to see if that at least gives me the ability to watch WoL reps only (I'll be satisfied with this since that's what I mostly played).

Extremely shitty move by Blizzard. Punish fans who bought WoL and HoTS with the inability to use an advertised part of the product. Can't believe this patch didn't meet much resistance when it came out. Guess most SCII folks don't care much about their reps.

edit: Nebuchad, thanks for the offer. Doubt it'll help though plus it probably contains your cd key and such, so I wouldn't feel right asking for a copy ^^


there was always the discussion, even back in WOL when they added some features for replays like fast forwarding etc. --> all old replays couldnt be watched anymore

the sad story is blizzard doesnt care about you and your replays
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 16 2016 04:27 GMT
#78
On October 16 2016 01:58 bypLy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2016 01:32 BigFan wrote:
thanks for the info. I found an old WoL installation so I tried dropping onto the main SCII.exe and the scIIswitcher.exe. I only managed to watch two reps. Everything else requires a patch it seems and that installs the new battle.net. I'm thinking of installing HoTS and trying to see if that at least gives me the ability to watch WoL reps only (I'll be satisfied with this since that's what I mostly played).

Extremely shitty move by Blizzard. Punish fans who bought WoL and HoTS with the inability to use an advertised part of the product. Can't believe this patch didn't meet much resistance when it came out. Guess most SCII folks don't care much about their reps.

edit: Nebuchad, thanks for the offer. Doubt it'll help though plus it probably contains your cd key and such, so I wouldn't feel right asking for a copy ^^


there was always the discussion, even back in WOL when they added some features for replays like fast forwarding etc. --> all old replays couldnt be watched anymore

the sad story is blizzard doesnt care about you and your replays

thing is, I have no problems with them breaking compatibility but at least give me the ability to watch my old rep somehow. Because as it stands, you are forced to update to the latest patch and blizzard gave us no tools or methods to watch old reps. I don't even mind doing workarounds to watch them, just provide me with the method. Also, why can't I just update to the patch right before the one that broke backward compatibility? Why am I forced to get the latest patch even though I don't even own LOTV (only bought WoL/HoTS)?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 16 2016 06:10 GMT
#79
There are cracked offline versions of WoL and HotS with various patches that would probably work.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
October 16 2016 12:17 GMT
#80
On October 15 2016 15:27 feardragon wrote:
If you use your cd installation with no internet, then launch your game and turn on the internet, would it work?

Or for WoL specifically, maybe just use your Hear of the Swarm cd install? Not sure if HotS cds included the neccessary WoL patches. Probably not. =[


I don't think so. I believe I tried this and it didn't work (could have just been with WoL instead, I can't remember - HotS disk could work). I backed up my old HotS SC2 directory before the LotV patch hit, and I've been recording WoL and HotS replays in the manner that Nebuchad discussed (not logging into Battle.net and simply dragging the replay file over the SC2switcher executable to play the file (you need to have an internet connection so the cache can be downloaded).

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