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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
September 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#101
On September 14 2015 06:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 05:44 b0rt_ wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Less than two months until launch... I was of the impression that they're still throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, rather than having 90% of it all set and just need to use a scalpel at this point.

I didn't play much at release but wasn't it similar with GomTvT? Or is it that it isn't working at all?


I don't recall whether or not it was formally established back in WoL beta if Terran was overpowered, or if that's what simply happened to be demonstrated after release with the pro-gamers. I think it was the latter, and even still, now Blizzard certainly has a better idea of SC2 than they did before it launched.


Zerg was really OP during the beta during a short period and that was fixed at release.

The GomTvT was not due to balance problems....... o.O
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
September 13 2015 21:54 GMT
#102
On September 14 2015 06:53 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 06:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:44 b0rt_ wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Less than two months until launch... I was of the impression that they're still throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, rather than having 90% of it all set and just need to use a scalpel at this point.

I didn't play much at release but wasn't it similar with GomTvT? Or is it that it isn't working at all?


I don't recall whether or not it was formally established back in WoL beta if Terran was overpowered, or if that's what simply happened to be demonstrated after release with the pro-gamers. I think it was the latter, and even still, now Blizzard certainly has a better idea of SC2 than they did before it launched.


Zerg was really OP during the beta during a short period and that was fixed at release.

The GomTvT was not due to balance problems....... o.O


1-supply roaches hahaha

"The GomTvT was not due to balance problems" ........................wat.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 13 2015 22:07 GMT
#103
While the trailer is a bombastic fight scene, it completely skips the space western feeling I got from WoL. WoL was awesome. I'm afraid the protoss plot simply won't live up to the expectations. HotS campaign felt off already.

HOWEVER STILL HYPED!
mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
September 13 2015 22:16 GMT
#104
Well that was certainly the most epic proxy pylon ever.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16950 Posts
September 13 2015 22:18 GMT
#105
On September 14 2015 06:53 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 06:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:44 b0rt_ wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Less than two months until launch... I was of the impression that they're still throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, rather than having 90% of it all set and just need to use a scalpel at this point.

I didn't play much at release but wasn't it similar with GomTvT? Or is it that it isn't working at all?


I don't recall whether or not it was formally established back in WoL beta if Terran was overpowered, or if that's what simply happened to be demonstrated after release with the pro-gamers. I think it was the latter, and even still, now Blizzard certainly has a better idea of SC2 than they did before it launched.


Zerg was really OP during the beta during a short period and that was fixed at release.

The GomTvT was not due to balance problems....... o.O


everyone in the Avilo fan club knows that the Blue Flame Hellion upgrade should've stayed at +15 and the game has gone downhill ever since then

/sarcasm
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 22:24:24
September 13 2015 22:19 GMT
#106
Already took a full week for the release of Fallout. Everything is going exactly as I have forseen.

Looks like I'm going to have to cut some sleep out of that schedule, though.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 22:24:27
September 13 2015 22:24 GMT
#107
On September 14 2015 06:53 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 06:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:44 b0rt_ wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Less than two months until launch... I was of the impression that they're still throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, rather than having 90% of it all set and just need to use a scalpel at this point.

I didn't play much at release but wasn't it similar with GomTvT? Or is it that it isn't working at all?


I don't recall whether or not it was formally established back in WoL beta if Terran was overpowered, or if that's what simply happened to be demonstrated after release with the pro-gamers. I think it was the latter, and even still, now Blizzard certainly has a better idea of SC2 than they did before it launched.


Zerg was really OP during the beta during a short period and that was fixed at release.

The GomTvT was not due to balance problems....... o.O

... please.
Akimbo
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada104 Posts
September 13 2015 22:53 GMT
#108
Archon ftw
1-1+1-1+1-1+1-.......
WidowMineHero
Profile Joined September 2014
New Zealand143 Posts
September 13 2015 23:01 GMT
#109
amazing cinematic by blizzard
"Time won't change anything, I will."
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 13 2015 23:03 GMT
#110
so they have to fix the multiplayer really fast.
Vasacast always in my <3
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 13 2015 23:08 GMT
#111
On September 14 2015 03:22 usopsama wrote:
It will be released the day after my birthday.

same day as fallout 4 :s
Moderatorlickypiddy
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 23:16:07
September 13 2015 23:15 GMT
#112
On September 14 2015 07:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 06:53 KobraKay wrote:
On September 14 2015 06:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:44 b0rt_ wrote:
On September 14 2015 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Less than two months until launch... I was of the impression that they're still throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, rather than having 90% of it all set and just need to use a scalpel at this point.

I didn't play much at release but wasn't it similar with GomTvT? Or is it that it isn't working at all?


I don't recall whether or not it was formally established back in WoL beta if Terran was overpowered, or if that's what simply happened to be demonstrated after release with the pro-gamers. I think it was the latter, and even still, now Blizzard certainly has a better idea of SC2 than they did before it launched.


Zerg was really OP during the beta during a short period and that was fixed at release.

The GomTvT was not due to balance problems....... o.O

... please.


There were other factors such as most maps having open naturals and a poor GSL format, but most of the reason for GomTvT was balance. (responding to the guy you quoted, not you)
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 13 2015 23:25 GMT
#113
of course GomTvT was a balance issue, did you see the amount of Terrans in Korea at that time ? Doubt there was a 50/50/50% balance of races at that time !

Seriously though, that so many Koreans switched to Terran, because they where easier to figure out then Zerg and Protoss ruined WoL balance big time together with Blizzards shot first ask questions later balance approach.
Darth Caedus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States326 Posts
September 13 2015 23:28 GMT
#114
[

Edit2: I only have 8 weeks time now to complete the WoL story in brutal mode.



n00b
Polt: "Those auto-turrets are cute." 10/26/13 commenting on MMA vs. Maru.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
September 13 2015 23:42 GMT
#115
Kinda wish for a mod of that scale...though zealots might look like ants compared to a nexus.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 13 2015 23:43 GMT
#116
On September 14 2015 02:59 CakeSauc3 wrote:
My biggest question is, knowing the impending doom that's on its way via Amon and what not, why are the Protoss focused on retaking Aiur? Is it simply out of the pride of their people, wanting to retake their home world at all costs? Or is there a purpose to it, something there that will help them in their fight to save the universe?

Toss don't really know much yet. In a Tassadar-esque way Zeratul has been avoiding the moment that he has to face his people. In last years blizzcon trailer you could see Zeratul come to artanis or dark rainy night and they were fighting, presumably because Arty was pissed Zera helped Kerri.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 13 2015 23:44 GMT
#117
On September 14 2015 08:28 Darth Caedus wrote:
Show nested quote +
[

Edit2: I only have 8 weeks time now to complete the WoL story in brutal mode.



n00b

How have you not gotten all campaign achievements yet?
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 23:51:25
September 13 2015 23:45 GMT
#118
Even as a Terran player I have to concede that WoL balance was pretty awful since it lead to GomTvT for who knows how many months on end. Then Blizzard decided to throw a monkey wrench into things with BL Infestor too.

Pretty epic cinematic nonetheless. Though that release date seems a bit rushed from what we're seeing and hearing regarding MP beta atm.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 23:51:42
September 13 2015 23:47 GMT
#119
On September 14 2015 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Less than two months until launch... I was of the impression that they're still throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, rather than having 90% of it all set and just need to use a scalpel at this point.


That's exactly what they're doing, i just wish they did more of it 6 months ago.

As shown on this thread - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/legacy-of-the-void/494703-poll-macro-booster-community-feedback

90% of people don't want current macro mechanics.

1/3'rd of that 90% want full HOTS mechanics (4 larvae inject, regular chrono boost, mules) and 2/3'rds of them want no macro mechanics.


There were other factors such as most maps having open naturals and a poor GSL format, but most of the reason for GomTvT was balance.


Of course, the lowest point of protoss balance-wise in the entire history of sc2 was during the GomTvT time period and terran probably had an edge against zerg too
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 13 2015 23:48 GMT
#120
On September 14 2015 03:18 disciple wrote:
I wonder what role Tassadar will have to play. I highly doubt his cameo in wings will be a red herring. Perhaps the protoss want to reclaim Auir cause of him?

Blizzard mentioned they wanted Zeratul to see the doomsday vision from someone he would trust. So they went with that. Reclamation is purely Artanis after he became hierarch. The protoss do not know about Amon yet! Zeratul is an exile.
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