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On July 07 2015 00:36 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:10 NyxNax wrote:On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them. Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time. Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol.  Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!!  Grats, you made me scared for Snute now ):
It's 200 Infected out of how many million korean citizens? It's an in insanely small number of infected in the first place. There is really no need to be worried about snute.
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On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow  Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what
Lilbow and MLord to CJ pls
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Should choose Harstem because he's going to Korea anyway
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On July 07 2015 00:51 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:36 OtherWorld wrote:On July 07 2015 00:10 NyxNax wrote:On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them. Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time. Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol. Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!! Grats, you made me scared for Snute now ): It's 200 Infected out of how many million korean citizens? It's an in insanely small number of infected in the first place. There is really no need to be worried about snute.
That's the kind of logic that gets you killed.
A 2 in 1,000,000 chance is significant, though dealth is likely lower, as usually infants and elderly are more at risk of death.
Anyway, I dunno how bad this MERS stuff really is around there, so I hope the thread wasn't completely derailed with these theories.
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Very sad, but I understand it. Maybe the chinese government is not allowing person to go outside of China
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On July 07 2015 00:51 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:36 OtherWorld wrote:On July 07 2015 00:10 NyxNax wrote:On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them. Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time. Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol. Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!! Grats, you made me scared for Snute now ): It's 200 Infected out of how many million korean citizens? It's an in insanely small number of infected in the first place. There is really no need to be worried about snute.
Im sure it was a jest, but still ya gotta imagine it from their point of view. This is all thats on the news, all you hear about is the number of infected, the number dead, ya see all the people in bio suits, and then they talk about how they dont even know exactly how its passed from human to human. Along with memories of SARS, I can see how they would be timid. But yes, like you said, the odds are incredibly slim when you compare the population vs number infected, and like the other person mentioned, the people that are dying from it are elderly or have an existing health condition already impairing them.
I really hope Snute can make it passed innovation. He couldnt have drawn like shine or alive or hell even San?! Arrrgh, there overall history is 11-2 innovation, doesnt bode well, but I'm trying to have some faith 
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On July 07 2015 02:09 SuperHofmann wrote:
Very sad, but I understand it. Maybe the chinese government is not allowing person to go outside of China
As I said to the guy on page one, from someone living in China currently there are no travel restrictions from the Chinese government on Chinese citizens going to South Korea. There is a travel warning because of MERS but people are still allowed to go if they want.
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he was matched up vs Rain right?
if he gets seeded into the next one, hmmm they might give him Rain again for the rematch
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On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what
There will be a partnership apparently, and the M players will be able to play in Proleague. Maybe they could get one of them to SSL as a replacement 
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On July 07 2015 03:42 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what There will be a partnership apparently, and the M players will be able to play in Proleague. Maybe they could get one of them to SSL as a replacement
Proleague rosters are locked at this point. This was discussed in the Invasion/SBENU partnership thread. Unless Kespa decided to change the rules no new players will be in proleague
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On July 07 2015 03:47 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:42 Ragnarork wrote:On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what There will be a partnership apparently, and the M players will be able to play in Proleague. Maybe they could get one of them to SSL as a replacement Proleague rosters are locked at this point. This was discussed in the Invasion/SBENU partnership thread. Unless Kespa decided to change the rules no new players will be in proleague
Uh? Independently of SBENU which is a special case, CJ and KT added players between R1 and R2, SKT and MVP and KT and even Prime added some between R2 and R3, why couldn't other teams add new players between R3 and R4?
On July 07 2015 03:42 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what There will be a partnership apparently, and the M players will be able to play in Proleague. Maybe they could get one of them to SSL as a replacement
A partnership would be nice. It will probably be with the weaker teams (Prime, MVP, or even Khan?), which is pretty nice because that way they could get playtime. On second thought it is very possible that it'd be Prime considering they already have a partnership with a Chinese team.
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On July 07 2015 03:42 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what There will be a partnership apparently, and the M players will be able to play in Proleague. Maybe they could get one of them to SSL as a replacement
Don't think they can play in PL in round 4, the roster is locked after round 3.
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On July 07 2015 05:08 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:42 Ragnarork wrote:On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what There will be a partnership apparently, and the M players will be able to play in Proleague. Maybe they could get one of them to SSL as a replacement Don't think they can play in PL in round 4, the roster is locked after round 3.
Damn I wasn't aware of that rule
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On July 07 2015 01:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:51 phagga wrote:On July 07 2015 00:36 OtherWorld wrote:On July 07 2015 00:10 NyxNax wrote:On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them. Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time. Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol. Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!! Grats, you made me scared for Snute now ): It's 200 Infected out of how many million korean citizens? It's an in insanely small number of infected in the first place. There is really no need to be worried about snute. That's the kind of logic that gets you killed. A 2 in 1,000,000 chance is significant, though dealth is likely lower, as usually infants and elderly are more at risk of death. Anyway, I dunno how bad this MERS stuff really is around there, so I hope the thread wasn't completely derailed with these theories.
Most of the infection has been spread in hospitals where the staff have had to get close to the patient, the current thinking is that it's very hard to contract.
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Confusing move... So does Rain have a walkover to S2SL ? I'd LOVE to have a replacement, especially a foreigner who has a realistic shot at making it to Blizzcon, but I doubt there is time for the organizers and for the players to do such a thing...
Lilbow getting the invite would be so hype though, especially since his 2-0 vs Rain in HSC
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On July 07 2015 05:04 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:47 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 07 2015 03:42 Ragnarork wrote:On July 07 2015 00:51 oGoZenob wrote:On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL? Or lilbow Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what There will be a partnership apparently, and the M players will be able to play in Proleague. Maybe they could get one of them to SSL as a replacement Proleague rosters are locked at this point. This was discussed in the Invasion/SBENU partnership thread. Unless Kespa decided to change the rules no new players will be in proleague Uh? Independently of SBENU which is a special case, CJ and KT added players between R1 and R2, SKT and MVP and KT and even Prime added some between R2 and R3, why couldn't other teams add new players between R3 and R4?
A KeSPA guy wrote in the thread that rosters are permanently locked after the start of Round 3. I don't remember his name but he has the KeSPA icon in the forum. Check the thread about SBENU and Invasion partnership
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On July 07 2015 00:51 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:36 OtherWorld wrote:On July 07 2015 00:10 NyxNax wrote:On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them. Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time. Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol. Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!! Grats, you made me scared for Snute now ): It's 200 Infected out of how many million korean citizens? It's an in insanely small number of infected in the first place. There is really no need to be worried about snute.
Epidemiologist here. Even though I am in an extremely low risk area (about as close to none as possible), I still keep an eye on this for any reports that come across my desk.
Yes the population of millions is the number of Koreans, but I don't actually care about the number of Koreans, I care about the exposed number of people given the outbreak nature here. A 15% death rate is high enough for me to be on the look out on the other side of planet albeit a very casual one at that.
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On July 06 2015 20:50 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 19:53 coloursheep wrote:On July 06 2015 18:40 BeStFAN wrote:
maybe it is chinese government who do not want citizen to return with disease I live in China and I can tell you that there are no travel restrictions between China and Korea at the moment but some people are highly concerned about it despite what places like the WHO are saying. Most likely situation is that either he, his parents or his team were worried about it and he or they decided not to go. I thought MERS came from China
No, that was SARS. MERS stands for "Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome." Regardless, I was in China during the whole swine flu thhing back in 2010. I told people I had already been in China for a year, not that I had just gotten off the plane, but they were still paranoid as hella bout me having it.
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Decision doesn't surprise me at all. I haven't looked it up but if the statistics quoted above is correct, 24/200 deaths is like 12%. That's really high.Looking up wiki, it seems breast cancer has ~11% mortality (in 5 years), Skin cancer ~9%, prostate 1%. And I'm sure you have all heard more noise about those cancers than MERS.
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On July 07 2015 01:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 00:51 phagga wrote:On July 07 2015 00:36 OtherWorld wrote:On July 07 2015 00:10 NyxNax wrote:On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them. Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time. Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol. Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!! Grats, you made me scared for Snute now ): It's 200 Infected out of how many million korean citizens? It's an in insanely small number of infected in the first place. There is really no need to be worried about snute. That's the kind of logic that gets you killed.
Dunno why, but that made me lmao.
I would just mention that the average pro gamer probably doesn't go out much anyway. Though it would be shitty to fly to Korea and not see the sights.
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