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TooDming forfeits his spot in SSL

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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
July 06 2015 13:02 GMT
#1
http://s.163.com/15/0706/07/ATQSPTJL00314Q8M.html - official source.

translating now.

Short summary: It's unclear at the moment whose decision this was (toodming or his manager's) but his spot was forfeited, citing the MERS outbreak. The team asked if it would be acceptable to reseed him into the next season of SSL after the situation with MERS in Korea stabilizes and is properly quarantined.

More translation to come soon. This is a live report thread.

Personal assessment: previously in an interview with toodming I can tell you all that he believes that if his physical condition s not healthy, then his performance can be a bit weak.
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BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
July 06 2015 09:40 GMT
#2
maybe it is chinese government who do not want citizen to return with disease
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coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China496 Posts
July 06 2015 10:53 GMT
#3
On July 06 2015 18:40 BeStFAN wrote:
maybe it is chinese government who do not want citizen to return with disease


I live in China and I can tell you that there are no travel restrictions between China and Korea at the moment but some people are highly concerned about it despite what places like the WHO are saying. Most likely situation is that either he, his parents or his team were worried about it and he or they decided not to go.
EvilsPresley
Profile Joined December 2014
France132 Posts
July 06 2015 11:19 GMT
#4
Snute the brave can survive this EZ

Any idea if TooDming will be replaced in challenger or Rain gets a free bye? It's not yet mentionned in liquipedia.
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 06 2015 11:33 GMT
#5
Someone mentioned in a previous thread (not sure which) that this would happen. Apparently they had watched Macsed's stream and he was saying that none of the Chinese organizations are willing to go to Korea during the outbreak, ZoO among them.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
July 06 2015 11:50 GMT
#6
On July 06 2015 19:53 coloursheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 18:40 BeStFAN wrote:
maybe it is chinese government who do not want citizen to return with disease


I live in China and I can tell you that there are no travel restrictions between China and Korea at the moment but some people are highly concerned about it despite what places like the WHO are saying. Most likely situation is that either he, his parents or his team were worried about it and he or they decided not to go.


I thought MERS came from China
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China496 Posts
July 06 2015 12:14 GMT
#7
On July 06 2015 20:50 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 19:53 coloursheep wrote:
On July 06 2015 18:40 BeStFAN wrote:
maybe it is chinese government who do not want citizen to return with disease


I live in China and I can tell you that there are no travel restrictions between China and Korea at the moment but some people are highly concerned about it despite what places like the WHO are saying. Most likely situation is that either he, his parents or his team were worried about it and he or they decided not to go.


I thought MERS came from China


MERS= Middle East respiratory syndrome
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
July 06 2015 12:22 GMT
#8
On July 06 2015 21:14 coloursheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 20:50 swissman777 wrote:
On July 06 2015 19:53 coloursheep wrote:
On July 06 2015 18:40 BeStFAN wrote:
maybe it is chinese government who do not want citizen to return with disease


I live in China and I can tell you that there are no travel restrictions between China and Korea at the moment but some people are highly concerned about it despite what places like the WHO are saying. Most likely situation is that either he, his parents or his team were worried about it and he or they decided not to go.


I thought MERS came from China


MERS= Middle East respiratory syndrome

so it changes name if it affects another region ?
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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
July 06 2015 12:25 GMT
#9
Its a different virus than SARS which is what you are thinking about.
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China496 Posts
July 06 2015 12:27 GMT
#10
On July 06 2015 21:22 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 21:14 coloursheep wrote:
On July 06 2015 20:50 swissman777 wrote:
On July 06 2015 19:53 coloursheep wrote:
On July 06 2015 18:40 BeStFAN wrote:
maybe it is chinese government who do not want citizen to return with disease


I live in China and I can tell you that there are no travel restrictions between China and Korea at the moment but some people are highly concerned about it despite what places like the WHO are saying. Most likely situation is that either he, his parents or his team were worried about it and he or they decided not to go.


I thought MERS came from China


MERS= Middle East respiratory syndrome

so it changes name if it affects another region ?


If that was the case then it would be South Korean respiratory syndrome now that it is in Korea. MERS is not SARS if that's what you are thinking
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
July 06 2015 12:32 GMT
#11
That's a shame. It's always nice to see Chinese players perform in Korea. There's a sad lack of contact in the premier leagues between the two country's teams.
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 12:38:10
July 06 2015 12:37 GMT
#12
Toodming's team seems... interesting. He seems to be the star player on a team where the second best person after him has under 40% wins and the rest of the team is in the twenties percentage range.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/teams/312_Zenith_of_Origin
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
July 06 2015 12:39 GMT
#13
On July 06 2015 21:37 Subversive wrote:
Toodming's team seems... interesting. He seems to be the star player on a team where the second best person after him has under 40% wins and the rest of the team is in the twenties percentage range.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/teams/312_Zenith_of_Origin

Well the same can be said for most of the Chinese teams...

The forfeit is indeed a weird decision though.
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nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany984 Posts
July 06 2015 13:56 GMT
#14
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them.
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China496 Posts
July 06 2015 14:18 GMT
#15
On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them.


Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 06 2015 14:23 GMT
#16
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL?
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 15:00:54
July 06 2015 14:57 GMT
#17
So, does Rain get a free seed for the tournament? Or is he supposed to prepare for an opponent 2-3 days before he plays in Challenger (which is fking absurd)?
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 15:35:04
July 06 2015 15:10 GMT
#18
On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them.


Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time.


Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol.

Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 06 2015 15:36 GMT
#19
On July 07 2015 00:10 NyxNax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 23:18 coloursheep wrote:
On July 06 2015 22:56 nimbim wrote:
Well, there are hypochondriacs. Their behaviour doesn't make a lot of sense, but that won't stop them.


Based on the reactions from people I have seen here I think it is more about how serious SARS was in China for a long time that has people so paranoid about MERS. I remember what is was like coming into China during not even the worst SARS time and they were very srtict and careful so I think over-reaction to MERS stems from what happened during that time.


Yea thats what I was thinking as well. SARS was a much bigger epidemic than MERS currently is, but like anything you learn from past experiences. SARS infected more than 8000 people spreading to 25 countries in 7 months, while MERS so far has spread to a few countries and currently in Korea has infected less than 200 with 24 fatalities as of June 14th. While thats not a huge number of infected, the 15% death rate or so isn't a percentage anyone would want to chance and considering how little they know about the virus who knows what could happen. They still dont even know where MERS originated from. If I recall SARS originated from bats and using civet cats as an intermediary passed the virus to humans. Apparently Civet cats are a delicacy in China. I've never eaten a Civet cat, but I've had Kopi Luwak, which essentially is very expensive coffee that has taken a trip through the digestive system of a civet cat. Whoever came up with the idea must've been one desperate coffee drinker. Just google it if your interested lol.

Guess I got a bit sidetracked. Anyway, all that being said I still think he should've gone lol.. Snute Fighting!!

Grats, you made me scared for Snute now ):
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
July 06 2015 15:51 GMT
#20
On July 06 2015 23:23 OtherWorld wrote:
So what'll happen to his seed? Given to someone else? A Korean? A foreigner? Wouldn't it be cool to see how one of the WCS Koreans (ideally Hydra) would fare in SSL?

Or lilbow
Yesterday on O'gaming stream there was a guy from Millenium saying that they were discussions about sending the two M guys to korea, but he didnt say if it was a partnership with another team or what
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