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[Interview] MarineKing on "Canata's CALLING" - Page 5

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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 31 2015 03:07 GMT
#81
Thanks a lot for the translation of the interview! Glad that Canata decided to reach out to MarineKing and give him the chance to 'explain himself'. Unconvincing, admittedly, but its good to hear that he's practicing a lot again.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Blargh1111
Profile Joined March 2013
8 Posts
May 31 2015 03:29 GMT
#82
I can understand where MKP is coming from, I can't imagine that I'm the only one who sees something out of the ordinary and just assumes it's a "bad" version of what you've seen before. He admits his mindset isn't great since he has been in a slump, that shows consistantly through when he was forever 2nd place, and currently in his worst point. In games where I don't know what is going on, but see something that looks like aggression, I would make the same play. I also have played games in which I don't notice something on my minimap that I should, mainly Nydus Worms. Thinking about his play, seeing him hold back his reapers, then make fast hellions to try and defend what he says he assumes was a speedling build makes sense to me, reactored factory and marauders also would hold a roach timing, which could be another theoretical allin. The game was depressing but I can't say it's unordinary for MK when he is in slumps to play poorly, GL to him.

Also, this is one of my rare posts in TL, thanks seeker for translations!!!! Just remember that we all appreciate you despite not always posting it <3<3<3
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
May 31 2015 03:48 GMT
#83
thanks for the translation + transcript
twitter@RickyMarou
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 07:17:46
May 31 2015 07:16 GMT
#84
On May 31 2015 05:48 TRaFFiC wrote:
Assuming he's innocent, which I'd like to, this is not likely to blow over like a common scandal. The king of marines, the man who practically invented marine splitting, 10 time silver medal winner, a man who at one time had so much glory and fame. He will now go down in history for playing the worst broadcasted game ever. It would be hard to top that. It will take another great victory to wipe the bad taste of this one away for his fans.

It brought down a God with ease... it will just laugh at a mere King. No amount of victory will remove any dishonor he suffers from this, people may like him a little more but it is almost impossible to reearn trust that is lost from something like match fixing.

Edited note: I actualy watch little SC2, the time is terrible for most of the korean tournaments and foreign SC2 bores me... nor od I care enough to watch the vods like I do for broodwar these days, but I love reading the interviews. I don't comment much but I do like reading them seeker.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
May 31 2015 08:40 GMT
#85
On May 31 2015 05:48 TRaFFiC wrote:
He will now go down in history for playing the worst broadcasted game ever. It would be hard to top that.


San? GSL? I refuse to take sides on this matter but when you're not in top form and mentally unstable, you miss things. You really do: small or big,

People have come to except so much from players, and when they don't perform at their expected level, they instantly assume the worst and jump at their throats. This is one big reason I despise competition in general. People forget that those who are playing are human, make (huge) mistakes, and lose. I'm at fault too. I can't deny competitive play is fun and it's something I love at watching but are players exempt from human nature? Are they people of higher stature and should be regarded to hold a higher moral discipline? Sure, people look up to them and model themselves after them, but it has become so...ugh...

Whatever. San had one of the worst performances I've ever seen, worst than MKP's, two matches in a row in GSL. Imo, San's laughs at MKP's.


MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1221 Posts
May 31 2015 08:47 GMT
#86
On May 30 2015 16:04 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 15:37 mdamda wrote:
Are there translations of previous episodes? These are interesting to watch/read.

I may do them in the future. But this will depend on how high the demands are. TL has lost a lot of traffic since SC2 has been losing popularity. Because of that, most of the interviews I do on TL get less and less views/replies every year, so I've started to become more and more discouraged about translating interviews.
None the less, the 10Q/10A videos that Sojung does and these Canata CALLING videos are really freaking good. I would like to translate them all. I just don't know if the workload will be worth it in the end though. That part I'm still trying to figure out. I honestly feel like people just don't care about the interviews these days.

I would LOVE to see The Calling translated, as well as other SPOTV StarCraft shows. It's such a pity that they seem to separate Korean and English content (making dedicated shows for one or the other), while many people would be interested in watching both.
|| SC2 Info Fairy || Co-founder of CranKy Ducklings || All my links: linktr.ee/16thsquadsanseki ||
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 31 2015 09:43 GMT
#87
On May 31 2015 17:47 [16thSq] Kuro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 16:04 Seeker wrote:
On May 30 2015 15:37 mdamda wrote:
Are there translations of previous episodes? These are interesting to watch/read.

I may do them in the future. But this will depend on how high the demands are. TL has lost a lot of traffic since SC2 has been losing popularity. Because of that, most of the interviews I do on TL get less and less views/replies every year, so I've started to become more and more discouraged about translating interviews.
None the less, the 10Q/10A videos that Sojung does and these Canata CALLING videos are really freaking good. I would like to translate them all. I just don't know if the workload will be worth it in the end though. That part I'm still trying to figure out. I honestly feel like people just don't care about the interviews these days.

I would LOVE to see The Calling translated, as well as other SPOTV StarCraft shows. It's such a pity that they seem to separate Korean and English content (making dedicated shows for one or the other), while many people would be interested in watching both.

yes please Seeker, more Canata is more love <3
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Homunculus159
Profile Joined December 2014
Austria220 Posts
May 31 2015 11:23 GMT
#88
On May 31 2015 17:40 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 05:48 TRaFFiC wrote:
He will now go down in history for playing the worst broadcasted game ever. It would be hard to top that.


San? GSL?
Whatever. San had one of the worst performances I've ever seen, worst than MKP's, two matches in a row in GSL. Imo, San's laughs at MKP's.





Against whom did San play and when?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 12:36:00
May 31 2015 12:35 GMT
#89
Anyone defending MKP for having an MKP bad day...needs to explain why he told us he reasoned after scouting byul, but the reasoning he gave us makes no sense. When you scout late pool late gas no hatch, you know what's going on. Hint: it's not fast speedlings.
Wachizungu
Profile Joined May 2014
Belgium1 Post
May 31 2015 13:26 GMT
#90
Thanks for the translation still follow sc2 scene the most (even though I play dota2 myself) so it's always interesting to read stuff like this.
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 13:49:41
May 31 2015 13:48 GMT
#91
People mostly forget Byuls rise came mostly after this game as did most of MKP's slump. Byul had lost to players like Terror recently and MKP wasnt on his current losing streak. Im glad MKP finally made a statement but I dont believe him. Fortunately no voids in past two weeks but we should remain vigilant against matchfixing.

Remember there were 6-7 voids it wasnt just this match. Hopefully the publicity and Soulkey/police situation have scared off the match fixers for the time being.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
May 31 2015 16:11 GMT
#92
I really like marineking but I have watched this game and what he's saying is just not possible. He could see it on the minimap. Watch the game again and tell me he didn't throw.
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
May 31 2015 16:15 GMT
#93
(T)MarineKing: Yeah. I only knew about what had happened after the match ended. I had no idea what was going on during the actual match. I didn't realize that the spine crawler had been spotted in my field of vision. I made a mistake that a progamer should not have made, and I showed a performance that was not worthy of being shown on a Proleague stage, so I was really upset and felt really Sorry to the fans for doing that.


i dont know, Kev
terrible, terrible, damage
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
May 31 2015 16:43 GMT
#94
On May 31 2015 20:23 Homunculus159 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 17:40 Ja.Y. wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:48 TRaFFiC wrote:
He will now go down in history for playing the worst broadcasted game ever. It would be hard to top that.


San? GSL?
Whatever. San had one of the worst performances I've ever seen, worst than MKP's, two matches in a row in GSL. Imo, San's laughs at MKP's.





Against whom did San play and when?


It was when Check.Prime was still playing. During WoL
MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
May 31 2015 19:18 GMT
#95
On June 01 2015 01:43 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 20:23 Homunculus159 wrote:
On May 31 2015 17:40 Ja.Y. wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:48 TRaFFiC wrote:
He will now go down in history for playing the worst broadcasted game ever. It would be hard to top that.


San? GSL?
Whatever. San had one of the worst performances I've ever seen, worst than MKP's, two matches in a row in GSL. Imo, San's laughs at MKP's.





Against whom did San play and when?


It was when Check.Prime was still playing. During WoL


I believe is the game that is being referenced:

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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10834 Posts
May 31 2015 19:24 GMT
#96
Canata such a boss, doing phone interviews! lol, was great thanks for sharing.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Homunculus159
Profile Joined December 2014
Austria220 Posts
May 31 2015 20:33 GMT
#97
On June 01 2015 04:18 scares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 01:43 Ja.Y. wrote:
On May 31 2015 20:23 Homunculus159 wrote:
On May 31 2015 17:40 Ja.Y. wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:48 TRaFFiC wrote:
He will now go down in history for playing the worst broadcasted game ever. It would be hard to top that.


San? GSL?
Whatever. San had one of the worst performances I've ever seen, worst than MKP's, two matches in a row in GSL. Imo, San's laughs at MKP's.





Against whom did San play and when?


It was when Check.Prime was still playing. During WoL


I believe is the game that is being referenced: https://youtu.be/fDb8rs47mqY?t=587



Thank you
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
May 31 2015 23:31 GMT
#98
For what its worth you guys realise san is one of the other players who had a match voided and is suspected of fixing right, not the best example to use for "poor play isnt evidence of fixing". While thats a valid point its perhaps more applicable in other contexts. Mkps explanation makes no sense im in plat atm and theres no way id scout what he scouted and think speedlings followed by an expansion
neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
May 31 2015 23:37 GMT
#99
mkp the baws
http://www.twitter.com/neteXLoL flw pls
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 01 2015 02:08 GMT
#100
On June 01 2015 04:18 scares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 01:43 Ja.Y. wrote:
On May 31 2015 20:23 Homunculus159 wrote:
On May 31 2015 17:40 Ja.Y. wrote:
On May 31 2015 05:48 TRaFFiC wrote:
He will now go down in history for playing the worst broadcasted game ever. It would be hard to top that.


San? GSL?
Whatever. San had one of the worst performances I've ever seen, worst than MKP's, two matches in a row in GSL. Imo, San's laughs at MKP's.





Against whom did San play and when?


It was when Check.Prime was still playing. During WoL


I believe is the game that is being referenced: https://youtu.be/fDb8rs47mqY?t=587


My god tasteless' voice sounds awful. I forgot how horse he sounded in the beginning
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