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[Interview] MarineKing on "Canata's CALLING" - Page 6

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 01 2015 02:25 GMT
#101
I really really like reading translations of interviews thanks seeker
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nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
June 01 2015 03:29 GMT
#102
On May 31 2015 09:41 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
He says because of his quick scout, he anticipated a fast speedling build. But what his scout showed him was that byul had no gas, no pool, and no hatch.


logic????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


He had one gas and a late pool

Your point is still valid though, I don't see how you can see the pool still morphing at 3:25 and still come up with "Speedlings". Even if we assume that he had a "LOLMarineKing" breakdown and just had a mind implosion, if he thinks "Speedlings", even if it's a handful before going macro, why does he build only 2 reapers to defend before going hellion? There's "I trust my micro" and there's "get the fuck out". The more I think of it, the LESS I believe him.

I agree with your conclusion but want to point out that more reapers wont help vs speedling build, you only want 2 and then hellion. getting 3 reaper delays hellion too much to be worth it. you want hellions out by 535
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vanjojojo
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom17 Posts
June 01 2015 08:20 GMT
#103
On May 30 2015 16:04 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 15:37 mdamda wrote:
Are there translations of previous episodes? These are interesting to watch/read.

I may do them in the future. But this will depend on how high the demands are. TL has lost a lot of traffic since SC2 has been losing popularity. Because of that, most of the interviews I do on TL get less and less views/replies every year, so I've started to become more and more discouraged about translating interviews.
None the less, the 10Q/10A videos that Sojung does and these Canata CALLING videos are really freaking good. I would like to translate them all. I just don't know if the workload will be worth it in the end though. That part I'm still trying to figure out. I honestly feel like people just don't care about the interviews these days.


Just logged into say I rarely post and login, but I do read all the content on teamliquid everyday as part of my normal routine when I get to work, thanks for all the work into content to pass the early mornings at work.

Having said that though.. Is it me or has there been less and less recaps to read about for gsl and s2sl ?

either way thanks again!
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
June 01 2015 10:28 GMT
#104
On June 01 2015 12:29 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 09:41 showstealer1829 wrote:
On May 30 2015 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
He says because of his quick scout, he anticipated a fast speedling build. But what his scout showed him was that byul had no gas, no pool, and no hatch.


logic????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


He had one gas and a late pool

Your point is still valid though, I don't see how you can see the pool still morphing at 3:25 and still come up with "Speedlings". Even if we assume that he had a "LOLMarineKing" breakdown and just had a mind implosion, if he thinks "Speedlings", even if it's a handful before going macro, why does he build only 2 reapers to defend before going hellion? There's "I trust my micro" and there's "get the fuck out". The more I think of it, the LESS I believe him.

I agree with your conclusion but want to point out that more reapers wont help vs speedling build, you only want 2 and then hellion. getting 3 reaper delays hellion too much to be worth it. you want hellions out by 535


I grant you that. But he doesn't build anything. Nothing except a 3rd CC and a tech lab, if he's thinking Speedlings surely he makes something else for defence
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 02 2015 02:54 GMT
#105
On June 01 2015 19:28 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 12:29 nath wrote:
On May 31 2015 09:41 showstealer1829 wrote:
On May 30 2015 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
He says because of his quick scout, he anticipated a fast speedling build. But what his scout showed him was that byul had no gas, no pool, and no hatch.


logic????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


He had one gas and a late pool

Your point is still valid though, I don't see how you can see the pool still morphing at 3:25 and still come up with "Speedlings". Even if we assume that he had a "LOLMarineKing" breakdown and just had a mind implosion, if he thinks "Speedlings", even if it's a handful before going macro, why does he build only 2 reapers to defend before going hellion? There's "I trust my micro" and there's "get the fuck out". The more I think of it, the LESS I believe him.

I agree with your conclusion but want to point out that more reapers wont help vs speedling build, you only want 2 and then hellion. getting 3 reaper delays hellion too much to be worth it. you want hellions out by 535


I grant you that. But he doesn't build anything. Nothing except a 3rd CC and a tech lab, if he's thinking Speedlings surely he makes something else for defence


As long as he had a wall a speedling all in will do literally nothing except cost minerals to repair the supply depots. If it was in fact a speedling all in MVPMK's build would have put him really REALLY far ahead
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
June 02 2015 06:00 GMT
#106
Theres one reason I believe MarineKing - He put down a 3rd CC... Think about it...
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 02 2015 15:49 GMT
#107
He knows the timing of a pool and gas for a speedling all in when that build is actually happening guys, don't kid yourselves. You believe the following three things occurred together by coincedence:

1. MKP scouted VERY late pool and gas and assumed speedling allin.
2. MKP missed his minimap while sitting on one base for over a minute straight.
3. Betting lines on the match were deliberately manipulated to maximize profit in the event of a MKP loss in the game.
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 17:39:47
June 02 2015 17:39 GMT
#108
Thanks for the translation!
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 03 2015 05:45 GMT
#109
On June 03 2015 00:49 Doodsmack wrote:
He knows the timing of a pool and gas for a speedling all in when that build is actually happening guys, don't kid yourselves. You believe the following three things occurred together by coincedence:

1. MKP scouted VERY late pool and gas and assumed speedling allin.
2. MKP missed his minimap while sitting on one base for over a minute straight.
3. Betting lines on the match were deliberately manipulated to maximize profit in the event of a MKP loss in the game.


How is your number 2 an argument against MarineKing? I'm at a GM level and I barely watch the minimap at all when I'm on one base. There is not really much that can happen at that time and I don't have multiple bases to look out for. One base just makes it more believable imo.
Have a nice day ;)
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 03 2015 14:53 GMT
#110
On May 30 2015 16:04 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 15:37 mdamda wrote:
Are there translations of previous episodes? These are interesting to watch/read.

I may do them in the future. But this will depend on how high the demands are. TL has lost a lot of traffic since SC2 has been losing popularity. Because of that, most of the interviews I do on TL get less and less views/replies every year, so I've started to become more and more discouraged about translating interviews.
None the less, the 10Q/10A videos that Sojung does and these Canata CALLING videos are really freaking good. I would like to translate them all. I just don't know if the workload will be worth it in the end though. That part I'm still trying to figure out. I honestly feel like people just don't care about the interviews these days.


That's so sad to read
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
942 Posts
June 03 2015 19:00 GMT
#111
On June 03 2015 23:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 16:04 Seeker wrote:
On May 30 2015 15:37 mdamda wrote:
Are there translations of previous episodes? These are interesting to watch/read.

I may do them in the future. But this will depend on how high the demands are. TL has lost a lot of traffic since SC2 has been losing popularity. Because of that, most of the interviews I do on TL get less and less views/replies every year, so I've started to become more and more discouraged about translating interviews.
None the less, the 10Q/10A videos that Sojung does and these Canata CALLING videos are really freaking good. I would like to translate them all. I just don't know if the workload will be worth it in the end though. That part I'm still trying to figure out. I honestly feel like people just don't care about the interviews these days.


That's so sad to read

Same here :/
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Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
June 03 2015 19:47 GMT
#112
On June 03 2015 14:45 Dumbledore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 00:49 Doodsmack wrote:
He knows the timing of a pool and gas for a speedling all in when that build is actually happening guys, don't kid yourselves. You believe the following three things occurred together by coincedence:

1. MKP scouted VERY late pool and gas and assumed speedling allin.
2. MKP missed his minimap while sitting on one base for over a minute straight.
3. Betting lines on the match were deliberately manipulated to maximize profit in the event of a MKP loss in the game.


How is your number 2 an argument against MarineKing? I'm at a GM level and I barely watch the minimap at all when I'm on one base. There is not really much that can happen at that time and I don't have multiple bases to look out for. One base just makes it more believable imo.

You're telling me that you scout your opponent, see that he's cheesing you hard off one base with a strange gas/pool timing and don't think to look at the minimap at all?
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 22:44:15
June 03 2015 22:13 GMT
#113
On June 04 2015 04:47 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 14:45 Dumbledore wrote:
On June 03 2015 00:49 Doodsmack wrote:
He knows the timing of a pool and gas for a speedling all in when that build is actually happening guys, don't kid yourselves. You believe the following three things occurred together by coincedence:

1. MKP scouted VERY late pool and gas and assumed speedling allin.
2. MKP missed his minimap while sitting on one base for over a minute straight.
3. Betting lines on the match were deliberately manipulated to maximize profit in the event of a MKP loss in the game.


How is your number 2 an argument against MarineKing? I'm at a GM level and I barely watch the minimap at all when I'm on one base. There is not really much that can happen at that time and I don't have multiple bases to look out for. One base just makes it more believable imo.

You're telling me that you scout your opponent, see that he's cheesing you hard off one base with a strange gas/pool timing and don't think to look at the minimap at all?


We've already had this discussion in two different topics and you guys are still discussing the obvious? Come on...
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