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Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
April 25 2015 20:41 GMT
#181
Obviously Hyvaa will be number one guys.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
April 25 2015 20:42 GMT
#182
On April 26 2015 05:17 sc2chronic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3


Durrr liquid bias.

way to generalize everyone. there are actually people who have read the article and gave good reasons why taeja shouldnt have been #3. but "DURR LIQUID BIAS" is all you see. youre just as bad as the people who do say that.

Not really, he gives a reason to debunk the "durr liquid bias" in saying he has beaten koreans ect. However many of these posts are literally just "Taeja number 3 is dumb liquid bias bull shit" with no actual logic or facts to make their point. I am a big Taeja fan and personally think he deserves number 3, but I will listen to counter arguments, what I don't listen to, is the multitude of posts that don't use any logic or reasoning to back up their point.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 20:46:12
April 25 2015 20:45 GMT
#183
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.
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PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
April 25 2015 20:47 GMT
#184
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.

It's Taeja bias, not liquid bias. I usually don't see TL overrating HerO or TLO to enormous degrees.

Have you ever considered that you might be underrating Taeja a little?
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 25 2015 20:47 GMT
#185
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.


I think you're just seeing what you want to see, I know a lot of the higher up writers personally and they don't even like liquid players for the most part.
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
April 25 2015 20:50 GMT
#186
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.

I understood some of the calls of liquid bias when he won player of the year or what not, however I really don't see it here. Third is about where I think he should go weighing his accomplishments(more Premier Tourny wins than ANYONE). This for me is why he deserves to be ranked highly. Innovation showed us that not any player can just leave Korea and win foreign tournaments, and many of those Taeja won had him consistently beating many high level players at the time. Had Taeja been first or even second, I could understand liquid bias, however I don't see this as some crazy act of bias at all.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 20:52:22
April 25 2015 20:50 GMT
#187
On April 26 2015 05:47 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.

It's Taeja bias, not liquid bias. I usually don't see TL overrating HerO or TLO to enormous degrees.

Have you ever considered that you might be underrating Taeja a little?

Yes I have. I'm not getting into this discussion again. The chances it will end up productive are very small. And it won't change the writer's bias.
Random master race
The Harem King
Profile Joined December 2013
United States12 Posts
April 25 2015 20:52 GMT
#188
My first reaction to this when reading the placements was this will be interesting. Read the comments everyone was freaking out about Taeja being top5 and this is coming from a Taeja fan I began to even speculate the credibility. After reading this thoroughly I now fully agree with your decision stuchiu! Wow I never looked at it the way you did it and it's amazing how factual you did this! I have to give you some major props man don't listen to all those who will hate and debate you got cold hard facts here! I'm now interested though Life or Mvp #1?
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
April 25 2015 20:53 GMT
#189
On April 26 2015 05:50 bartus88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:47 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.

It's Taeja bias, not liquid bias. I usually don't see TL overrating HerO or TLO to enormous degrees.

Have you ever considered that you might be underrating Taeja a little?

Yes I have. I'm not getting into this discussion again. The changes it will end up productive are very small. And it won't change the writer's bias.

That statement is a cop out and does very little to prove your point. To me that says "I think what i think but I can't or won't defend it".
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
April 25 2015 20:55 GMT
#190
On April 26 2015 05:47 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.

It's Taeja bias, not liquid bias. I usually don't see TL overrating HerO or TLO to enormous degrees.

Have you ever considered that you might be underrating Taeja a little?


That's just because they have been performing very very poorly. Hero used to be extremely overrated. Hero was never the best Protoss in the world.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 20:56:20
April 25 2015 20:56 GMT
#191
On April 26 2015 05:52 The Harem King wrote:
My first reaction to this when reading the placements was this will be interesting. Read the comments everyone was freaking out about Taeja being top5 and this is coming from a Taeja fan I began to even speculate the credibility. After reading this thoroughly I now fully agree with your decision stuchiu! Wow I never looked at it the way you did it and it's amazing how factual you did this! I have to give you some major props man don't listen to all those who will hate and debate you got cold hard facts here! I'm now interested though Life or Mvp #1?


It is......................









+ Show Spoiler +

Next time on Dragonball Z I reveal who was #1.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 25 2015 20:59 GMT
#192
FLASH AND JAEDONG ARE TOP 2!!! I guarantee it 1005!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
April 25 2015 21:00 GMT
#193
Giving Flash number one would be the greatest troll of all time
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17686 Posts
April 25 2015 21:03 GMT
#194
On April 26 2015 06:00 tjtombo wrote:
Giving Flash number one would be the greatest troll of all time

Nah it would be too easily dismissed as a joke to really troll anyone. A real troll would've been putting Taeja at #2, just look at all the butthurt over him at #3 lol, #1 would be too much.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
April 25 2015 21:04 GMT
#195
I agree overall with the writer's ranking. Personally, I would have put Parting in rank 15 instead of Leenock, swap Taeja and MC at rank #3 and #4, and switched MMA and Polt at rank #5 and #6.

People don't understand how good Taeja was. I have been at IPL TAC finals where IM defeated Taeja 1-7 (to be honest, it was more 1-8, cf Nestea vs Taeja rematch). I was there. It took hours, it was grueling. And yet, he pummeled his opponents one after the other. Taeja was incredibly dominant that summer.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 21:05:11
April 25 2015 21:04 GMT
#196
Yep, exactly as predicted.

Life and Mvp coming up....wonder why we have to wait for part 4...UNLESS

Life > Mvp?! :O

could it be?
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 25 2015 21:04 GMT
#197
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.


I think this is an unfair assessment. Anyone who has read my posts in LR threads will know that I am no fan of Taeja or even of Team Liquid, but I was still routinely accused of being biased in favor of Taeja when I was writing Power Ranks. It's not impossible, but isn't it just as likely that you, and many others, are biased against Taeja?
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 21:06:31
April 25 2015 21:06 GMT
#198
On April 26 2015 06:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yep, exactly as predicted.

Life and Mvp coming up....wonder why we have to wait for part 4...UNLESS

Life > Mvp?! :O

That is not unreasonable at all. Those two are so close now that Life won his third GSL and Blizzcon. Especially since one of Mvp's four GSL titles was that really, really small World Championship invitational.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 25 2015 21:08 GMT
#199
On April 26 2015 06:06 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 06:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yep, exactly as predicted.

Life and Mvp coming up....wonder why we have to wait for part 4...UNLESS

Life > Mvp?! :O

That is not unreasonable at all. Those two are so close now that Life won his third GSL and Blizzcon. Especially since one of Mvp's four GSL titles was that really, really small World Championship invitational.


Yeah they basically both won three

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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
April 25 2015 21:09 GMT
#200
On April 26 2015 01:17 Seeker wrote:
THE WAITING IS KILLING ME!!! WHO IS #1 AND #2?!?!?!

+ Show Spoiler +
j/k I already know


its life and mvp obviously in that order
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