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United States23455 Posts
On April 13 2015 05:42 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 05:00 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 04:57 Yorkie wrote:On April 13 2015 04:30 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 04:20 Doodsmack wrote:On April 13 2015 03:30 Darkhorse wrote:On April 13 2015 03:24 Doodsmack wrote:On April 12 2015 23:05 Zealously wrote:On April 12 2015 23:00 Disarmed wrote:
its not getting embarrassing? The "discussion" was embarrassing, which is why it was closed. Everything that could be said has been said, and if new information comes to light that might warrant a thread. Until then, there is nothing to be gained by having a thread dedicated to a massive circular argument on TL. The fact that TL is stifling discussion about ongoing matchfixing in SC2 is what's embarassing. The importance of the issue in and of itself warrants a thread, period. But I guess TL wants it quiet just like Blizzard and KeSPA. Yeah TL is part of a massive conspiracy to cover this all up. If only they had allowed some people on this forum to keep saying the same thing over and over again/make baseless accusations then we would have all the answers about match fixing for sure! That was a cool straw man but I still fail to see how closing discussion on arguably the most important issue facing the game is better in the long run. The "discussion" was uncivilized, hateful, respectless, and ultimately pointless as everything that needed to be said was said. There was nothing wrong with closing that thread. The discussion ran its course far before the thread was closed. I will now throw argumentative buzzwords at you! Straw man! Ad hominem! Logical fallacies! Wake up sheeple! I mean, I guess those are good ways to keep a "discussion" going. :3 No actually he used a straw man. I can tell you about lots of threads on TL that have not much direction and heated internet arguments. That doesn't necessarily mean a discussion should not be happening, considering it's an exaggeration to say that every post was a circle jerk.
You complain about the thread being locked
I say why the thread was locked
For some reason you think this is a straw man
EDIT: Anyway yeah no Stephano isn't going to be on the list I'd wager
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Bisutopia19257 Posts
On April 13 2015 11:25 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 05:42 Doodsmack wrote:On April 13 2015 05:00 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 04:57 Yorkie wrote:On April 13 2015 04:30 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 04:20 Doodsmack wrote:On April 13 2015 03:30 Darkhorse wrote:On April 13 2015 03:24 Doodsmack wrote:On April 12 2015 23:05 Zealously wrote:On April 12 2015 23:00 Disarmed wrote:
its not getting embarrassing? The "discussion" was embarrassing, which is why it was closed. Everything that could be said has been said, and if new information comes to light that might warrant a thread. Until then, there is nothing to be gained by having a thread dedicated to a massive circular argument on TL. The fact that TL is stifling discussion about ongoing matchfixing in SC2 is what's embarassing. The importance of the issue in and of itself warrants a thread, period. But I guess TL wants it quiet just like Blizzard and KeSPA. Yeah TL is part of a massive conspiracy to cover this all up. If only they had allowed some people on this forum to keep saying the same thing over and over again/make baseless accusations then we would have all the answers about match fixing for sure! That was a cool straw man but I still fail to see how closing discussion on arguably the most important issue facing the game is better in the long run. The "discussion" was uncivilized, hateful, respectless, and ultimately pointless as everything that needed to be said was said. There was nothing wrong with closing that thread. The discussion ran its course far before the thread was closed. I will now throw argumentative buzzwords at you! Straw man! Ad hominem! Logical fallacies! Wake up sheeple! I mean, I guess those are good ways to keep a "discussion" going. :3 No actually he used a straw man. I can tell you about lots of threads on TL that have not much direction and heated internet arguments. That doesn't necessarily mean a discussion should not be happening, considering it's an exaggeration to say that every post was a circle jerk. You complain about the thread being locked I say why the thread was locked For some reason you think this is a straw man EDIT: Anyway yeah no Stephano isn't going to be on the list I'd wager
Often people forget that Teamliquid is 90% unpaid staff with family/jobs/school working extremely hard to share quality content for the gaming community. I am fine with people having a difference of opinion from TL staff, but how about having some damn respect.
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I just cannot fathom how Nestea is ahead of MC on so many lists.
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On April 13 2015 11:51 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 11:25 Darkhorse wrote:On April 13 2015 05:42 Doodsmack wrote:On April 13 2015 05:00 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 04:57 Yorkie wrote:On April 13 2015 04:30 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 04:20 Doodsmack wrote:On April 13 2015 03:30 Darkhorse wrote:On April 13 2015 03:24 Doodsmack wrote:On April 12 2015 23:05 Zealously wrote:
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The "discussion" was embarrassing, which is why it was closed. Everything that could be said has been said, and if new information comes to light that might warrant a thread. Until then, there is nothing to be gained by having a thread dedicated to a massive circular argument on TL. The fact that TL is stifling discussion about ongoing matchfixing in SC2 is what's embarassing. The importance of the issue in and of itself warrants a thread, period. But I guess TL wants it quiet just like Blizzard and KeSPA. Yeah TL is part of a massive conspiracy to cover this all up. If only they had allowed some people on this forum to keep saying the same thing over and over again/make baseless accusations then we would have all the answers about match fixing for sure! That was a cool straw man but I still fail to see how closing discussion on arguably the most important issue facing the game is better in the long run. The "discussion" was uncivilized, hateful, respectless, and ultimately pointless as everything that needed to be said was said. There was nothing wrong with closing that thread. The discussion ran its course far before the thread was closed. I will now throw argumentative buzzwords at you! Straw man! Ad hominem! Logical fallacies! Wake up sheeple! I mean, I guess those are good ways to keep a "discussion" going. :3 No actually he used a straw man. I can tell you about lots of threads on TL that have not much direction and heated internet arguments. That doesn't necessarily mean a discussion should not be happening, considering it's an exaggeration to say that every post was a circle jerk. You complain about the thread being locked I say why the thread was locked For some reason you think this is a straw man EDIT: Anyway yeah no Stephano isn't going to be on the list I'd wager Often people forget that Teamliquid is 90% unpaid staff with family/jobs/school working extremely hard to share quality content for the gaming community. I am fine with people having a difference of opinion from TL staff, but how about having some damn respect.
Sadly lots of people on the internet decide to be complete asshats for no good reason other than because they can get away with it. 
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On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?
I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right
Hmmm
Top 5 for me are (not in any order)
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. Taeja
4. Zest
5. MC
So this five would be:
1. Nestea
2. Stephano (foreign bias riding him in)
3. Polt
4. MMA
5. Innovation
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On April 13 2015 14:33 Pandain wrote:
Hmmm
Top 5 for me are (not in any order)
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. Taeja
4. Life
5. MC
I would be very surprised if this was the top 5 picks.
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On April 13 2015 14:36 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 14:33 Pandain wrote:
Hmmm
Top 5 for me are (not in any order)
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. Taeja
4. Life
5. MC
I would be very surprised if this was the top 5 picks.
Haha oh no!
Let me rethink this then!
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On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?
I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right
Part 3
1. Mvp
2. Life
3. Taeja
4. MC
5. MMA
Part 2
6. Parting
7. Polt
8. Zest
9. Innovation
10. Bomber
Personally I believe Polt and MMA should be switched, but I think this is how the rankings will go. Maybe Rain instead of NesTea, but I doubt it given how high MKP got by being a pioneer.
edit: ugh, forgot Bomber... now I have to redo this. Nah, nvm, just gonna take NesTea out and replace with Bomber.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
i will never understand why people rate parting so highly
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On April 13 2015 15:06 lichter wrote:
i will never understand why people rate parting so highly
Choo choo
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 13 2015 15:12 Pursuit_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 15:06 lichter wrote:
i will never understand why people rate parting so highly Choo choo
to be fair that's the only pvz build i know by heart
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Parting's always been my favorite protoss. The thing I remember most distinctly is his 1 gate 3 nexus 8 gate build, excellent templar usage, and immortal all-ins. He really innovated protoss.
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On April 13 2015 15:19 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 15:12 Pursuit_ wrote:On April 13 2015 15:06 lichter wrote:
i will never understand why people rate parting so highly Choo choo to be fair that's the only pvz build i know by heart
People want SC2 to be pro wrestling and Parting cuts the best promos next to MC.
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Taeja for me would only be in 6th-10th range not top 5. He always falls short in the most competitive tournaments like GSL.
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Poland3748 Posts
On April 13 2015 15:06 lichter wrote:
i will never understand why people rate parting so highly
He was runner-up of both GSL and Blizzard Cup, he won WCS World Championships, was second in asia and third in WCS Korea in 2012, collected NesTea award, won three other premier titles.
And on top of that derailed Flash hype train on more than one occasion.
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On April 13 2015 15:06 lichter wrote:
i will never understand why people rate parting so highly
he's been a top five player in his race for three straight years. how many players can say that?
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United States23455 Posts
On April 13 2015 14:33 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?
I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right Hmmm Top 5 for me are (not in any order) 1. Mvp 2. Life 3. Taeja 4. Zest 5. MC So this five would be: 1. Nestea 2. Stephano (foreign bias riding him in) 3. Polt 4. MMA 5. Innovation
Holy bejesus zest too high
Also Stephano nah. Parting
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Part #2 :
10 Rain
9 Innovation
8 Zest
7 Polt
6 Nestea
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Poland3748 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/482893-lets-vote-on-stuchius-top-10-of-goats <- thread
#10
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #10 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (18) 12% Dear (2) 1% herO (CJ herO) (12) 8% INnoVation (21) 14% Life (4) 3% MC (1) 1% MMA (4) 3% Mvp (8) 5% Nestea (8) 5% Parting (8) 5% Polt (8) 5% sOs (6) 4% Stephano (27) 18% Soulkey (5) 3% TaeJa (5) 3% Zest (9) 6% Someone else (7) 5% 153 total votes Your vote: #10 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#9
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #9 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (10) 10% Dear (0) 0% herO (CJ herO) (3) 3% INnoVation (7) 7% Life (0) 0% MC (2) 2% MMA (2) 2% Mvp (2) 2% Nestea (8) 8% Parting (27) 28% Polt (3) 3% sOs (7) 7% Soulkey (4) 4% Stephano (6) 6% TaeJa (1) 1% Zest (11) 11% Someone else (5) 5% 98 total votes Your vote: #9 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#8
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #8 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (2) 2% Dear (1) 1% herO (CJ herO) (5) 5% INnoVation (22) 24% Life (1) 1% MC (2) 2% MMA (4) 4% Mvp (2) 2% Nestea (4) 4% Parting (11) 12% Polt (9) 10% sOs (5) 5% Soulkey (3) 3% Stephano (3) 3% TaeJa (2) 2% Zest (11) 12% Someone else (6) 6% 93 total votes Your vote: #8 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#7
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #7 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (3) 3% Dear (0) 0% herO (CJ herO) (3) 3% INnoVation (21) 21% Life (1) 1% MC (5) 5% MMA (6) 6% Mvp (2) 2% Nestea (14) 14% Parting (8) 8% Polt (9) 9% sOs (2) 2% Soulkey (4) 4% Stephano (3) 3% TaeJa (8) 8% Zest (8) 8% Someone else (2) 2% 99 total votes Your vote: #7 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#6
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #6 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (3) 3% Dear (1) 1% herO (CJ herO) (5) 5% INnoVation (4) 4% Life (2) 2% MC (5) 5% MMA (6) 6% Mvp (2) 2% Nestea (13) 13% Parting (8) 8% Polt (27) 27% sOs (1) 1% Soulkey (1) 1% Stephano (4) 4% TaeJa (6) 6% Zest (9) 9% Someone else (3) 3% 100 total votes Your vote: #6 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#5
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #5 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (2) 2% Dear (0) 0% herO (CJ herO) (3) 3% INnoVation (2) 2% Life (3) 3% MC (7) 6% MMA (29) 25% Mvp (2) 2% Nestea (27) 23% Parting (11) 9% Polt (6) 5% sOs (5) 4% Soulkey (0) 0% Stephano (4) 3% TaeJa (10) 9% Zest (3) 3% Someone else (2) 2% 116 total votes Your vote: #5 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#4
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #4 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (4) 3% Dear (0) 0% herO (CJ herO) (1) 1% INnoVation (4) 3% Life (3) 2% MC (32) 26% MMA (36) 29% Mvp (2) 2% Nestea (8) 7% Parting (3) 2% Polt (2) 2% sOs (1) 1% Soulkey (2) 2% Stephano (2) 2% TaeJa (20) 16% Zest (3) 2% Someone else (0) 0% 123 total votes Your vote: #4 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#3
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #3 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (2) 1% Dear (1) 1% herO (CJ herO) (2) 1% INnoVation (2) 1% Life (11) 8% MC (42) 30% MMA (7) 5% Mvp (6) 4% Nestea (6) 4% Parting (3) 2% Polt (2) 1% sOs (1) 1% Soulkey (0) 0% Stephano (4) 3% TaeJa (49) 35% Zest (4) 3% Someone else (0) 0% 142 total votes Your vote: #3 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#2
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #2 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (4) 3% Dear (0) 0% herO (CJ herO) (1) 1% INnoVation (0) 0% Life (89) 58% MC (10) 6% MMA (4) 3% Mvp (28) 18% Nestea (8) 5% Parting (2) 1% Polt (0) 0% sOs (2) 1% Soulkey (1) 1% Stephano (1) 1% TaeJa (4) 3% Zest (0) 0% Someone else (0) 0% 154 total votes Your vote: #2 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
#1
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: #1 on stuchiu's GOATs list will beBomber (3) 2% Dear (1) 1% herO (CJ herO) (2) 1% INnoVation (0) 0% Life (34) 17% MC (0) 0% MMA (1) 1% Mvp (139) 71% Nestea (2) 1% Parting (3) 2% Polt (0) 0% sOs (2) 1% Soulkey (0) 0% Stephano (3) 2% TaeJa (4) 2% Zest (0) 0% Someone else (3) 2% 197 total votes Your vote: #1 on stuchiu's GOATs list will be (Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Dear
(Vote): herO (CJ herO)
(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): Life
(Vote): MC
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Mvp
(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Parting
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): sOs
(Vote): Soulkey
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Someone else
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that post is too long, can you please spoiler it?
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EPT
