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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 1 - Page 26

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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
April 12 2015 22:41 GMT
#501
On April 13 2015 06:46 grolly wrote:
10 INnoVation
9 Zest
8 PartinG
7 Polt
6 MMA
5 MC
4 Nestea
3 Taeja
2 Life
1 Mvp

kinda feel like stephano and maaaaaaybe rain could sneak in somewhere, but probably not
bisu
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 11:06:43
April 12 2015 22:47 GMT
#502
Does Rain or Parting deserved the 10th spot ?! I will go for Rain

Stephano has brang so much to the game and I will definitly put him top 10 but I think it's going to be Korean only
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
April 12 2015 22:55 GMT
#503
People saying Stephano are living in dreamland.
STX Fighting!
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 23:01:29
April 12 2015 22:57 GMT
#504
On April 13 2015 07:55 vesicular wrote:
People saying Stephano are living in dreamland.


Wanna bet ?

Edit : Damn I forgot about Rain ....
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 12 2015 22:59 GMT
#505
On April 13 2015 03:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 02:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 13 2015 02:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On April 13 2015 02:35 snailz wrote:
inb4 taeja gets placed way higher than he ever should

prob top 5 maybe 4 no way top 2

well top 2 are life and Mvp (not sure in what order)

I could see stuchiu putting MC in there

omg Darkhorse, the bait is real
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 12 2015 23:23 GMT
#506
Finally got the time to read, fantastic as always from stuchiu. Can't wait for the next part.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
oufanforever
Profile Joined April 2013
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 23:28:23
April 12 2015 23:25 GMT
#507
On April 13 2015 07:05 stuchiu wrote:

In terms of all time Taeja is 29-20 against Life.


In offline matches life is ahead 19-17 in games and 6-5 in series, but in online matches life is 1-12 in games and 0-6 in series. The same offline-online result difference exists for life vs parting and life vs innovation. I wonder why there is such a discrepancy between offline and online results for life.
Don't worry, be happy!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#508
On April 13 2015 07:57 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 07:55 vesicular wrote:
People saying Stephano are living in dreamland.


Wanna bet ?

Edit : Damn I forgot about Rain ....


I believe anything after he put DRG at #14. He's even behind Marineking ffs
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 12 2015 23:40 GMT
#509
On April 13 2015 08:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 07:57 Philozovic wrote:
On April 13 2015 07:55 vesicular wrote:
People saying Stephano are living in dreamland.


Wanna bet ?

Edit : Damn I forgot about Rain ....


I believe anything after he put DRG at #14. He's even behind Marineking ffs

seriously...the single most evil thing stuch has ever been related to
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TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 00:53:12
April 13 2015 00:39 GMT
#510
I think there are many inconsistency in some arguments (finally I think is a subjective list disguised). For example at the introduction they order the tournaments into differents tier but then when they analise the players the tiers seems to dissapear by saying that the path of the players where harder in one tournament or other. They put away the preparation and pressure that is involved in one tournament like GSL and in other like IPL.
Saying MLG, IPL, IEM are tier 1 same as GSL is like a joke. Is like saying that wimbledon (in tennis) is the same as shangai masters because all the good players compete in both. Formats are different, pressure is different, preparation, etc.
Winning WCS global finals, Hot6ix cup and IEM worldchampionship. Plus reaching WCS global final and GSL semis is way more important than winning 2 MLG, Dreamhack and IPL, plus reaching GSL finals (and losing against jkajji =/)
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
April 13 2015 00:54 GMT
#511
#1: Sniper

would seriously love that.
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
April 13 2015 01:02 GMT
#512
On April 13 2015 09:54 cheekymonkey wrote:
#1: Sniper

would seriously love that.


With the argumentation that is being gived I can see Taeja winning that will be even worst than Sniper winning.
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
April 13 2015 01:14 GMT
#513
On April 13 2015 10:02 TheAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 09:54 cheekymonkey wrote:
#1: Sniper

would seriously love that.


With the argumentation that is being gived I can see Taeja winning that will be even worst than Sniper winning.


Taeja won't be #1 unless this is all a joke.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 01:34:51
April 13 2015 01:27 GMT
#514
On April 12 2015 10:54 swag_bro wrote:
Top 2 will be:

1. Life
2. Mvp

Life trumps Mvp in terms of on form skill and achievements. It's not even close.

nice joke

On April 12 2015 16:36 Naikonz wrote:
I don't know why people keep placing Mvp first. He was a amazing. but at the beginning of SC2. That's why I think NesTea doesn't deserve a spot on this list. I get that NesTea won three GSLs. But when did he do that? When nobody besides a handful of players knew how to play the game. It wasn't nearly as figured out as it is now. I really think that Life is the best player of SC2 because he won a GSL when Mvp was in his prime (actually beating him in the finals), and he just won Blizzcon and GSL now, 3 years later, apart from many other tournaments. It would be cool to see a list of all the players in their prime. When they were at the top of their game. That would be so hard to judge. People like Jaedong, Dear and Soulkey would belong on that list.

Mvp was well past his prime when he played Life in the GSL finals. Nobody had even expected him to make his fourth final months earlier when he beat Squirtle because his injuries had stunted his game so much. Consider also that the series was played during a point in time when TvZ was completely broken and that Mvp still somehow pushed it all the way to game 7.
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
April 13 2015 01:37 GMT
#515
Great write up, loved the marine king bit. I remember reviewing all the replays i could get my hands on when I was super into game and everytime I pulled out an MKP game I would yell at my computer "you can't do that, it's so greedy!!" when i watched him play. The fact that he made it deep in so many tournaments with such builds is quite the achievement.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 13 2015 01:49 GMT
#516
On April 13 2015 08:40 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 08:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 13 2015 07:57 Philozovic wrote:
On April 13 2015 07:55 vesicular wrote:
People saying Stephano are living in dreamland.


Wanna bet ?

Edit : Damn I forgot about Rain ....


I believe anything after he put DRG at #14. He's even behind Marineking ffs

seriously...the single most evil thing stuch has ever been related to


Not enough respect is given to his longevity imo. I don't even think DRG's best series was any of his encounters with MMA but instead with Bogus.

That series wasn't just good because of the exciting gameplay, it was good for the story. DRG looked totally washed up post-HotS up until that night. Then he just randomly comes out of nowhere one day and plays the best games of his career against what is probably the scariest TvZ ever seen. He even beat Bogus at his own mechanical game.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 13 2015 01:53 GMT
#517
On April 13 2015 10:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 08:40 Cricketer12 wrote:
On April 13 2015 08:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 13 2015 07:57 Philozovic wrote:
On April 13 2015 07:55 vesicular wrote:
People saying Stephano are living in dreamland.


Wanna bet ?

Edit : Damn I forgot about Rain ....


I believe anything after he put DRG at #14. He's even behind Marineking ffs

seriously...the single most evil thing stuch has ever been related to


Not enough respect is given to his longevity imo. I don't even think DRG's best series was any of his encounters with MMA but instead with Bogus.

That series wasn't just good because of the exciting gameplay, it was good for the story. DRG looked totally washed up post-HotS up until that night. Then he just randomly comes out of nowhere one day and plays the best games of his career against what is probably the scariest TvZ ever seen. He even beat Bogus at his own mechanical game.

Oh ya. I remember how excited I during that group. So legendary. Not to mention he still holds the record for the longest GSL run in history
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 13 2015 01:54 GMT
#518
On April 13 2015 10:27 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 10:54 swag_bro wrote:
Top 2 will be:

1. Life
2. Mvp

Life trumps Mvp in terms of on form skill and achievements. It's not even close.

nice joke

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 16:36 Naikonz wrote:
I don't know why people keep placing Mvp first. He was a amazing. but at the beginning of SC2. That's why I think NesTea doesn't deserve a spot on this list. I get that NesTea won three GSLs. But when did he do that? When nobody besides a handful of players knew how to play the game. It wasn't nearly as figured out as it is now. I really think that Life is the best player of SC2 because he won a GSL when Mvp was in his prime (actually beating him in the finals), and he just won Blizzcon and GSL now, 3 years later, apart from many other tournaments. It would be cool to see a list of all the players in their prime. When they were at the top of their game. That would be so hard to judge. People like Jaedong, Dear and Soulkey would belong on that list.

Mvp was well past his prime when he played Life in the GSL finals. Nobody had even expected him to make his fourth final months earlier when he beat Squirtle because his injuries had stunted his game so much. Consider also that the series was played during a point in time when TvZ was completely broken and that Mvp still somehow pushed it all the way to game 7.

you just got swag_bro'd
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Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 02:14:18
April 13 2015 02:02 GMT
#519
10. Rain
9. Innovation
8. Zest (he's only here after reading the article, otherwise he wouldn't even be on the list!)
7. MMA
6. Nestea
5. Polt
4. MC
3. Taeja
2. mvp
1. Life

tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
April 13 2015 02:15 GMT
#520
1. mvp
2.Life
3.Taeja
4. Nestea
5. MC
6.Polt
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
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