On March 15 2015 08:13 Phredxor wrote: I'm probably even on TvT and PvP now. TvT hasn't been much fun lately, 1/1/1 into doom drops into gg. Haven't had any epic games like Flash vs Bbyong at Shoutcraft in awhile.
PvP has so many mindgames and when it's two top tier PvPers playing it can be fantastic.
I'm glad mutas are coming back into ZvZ more of late, but I still hate Roach wars.
Flash vs TaeJa at IEM Toronto was after Sandisk Shoutcraft, right? The game on Merry Go Round is very good. Also series like INno vs Cure (Code S semi) and Bomber vs Cure (I think at one of the Redbull events?) were better than what we currently get because more mech vs bio.
Mech vs bio is so fucking good, its like a non-mirror
Also Innovation vs Taeja in New Kirk, that was a game for the ages
On March 15 2015 08:13 Phredxor wrote: I'm probably even on TvT and PvP now. TvT hasn't been much fun lately, 1/1/1 into doom drops into gg. Haven't had any epic games like Flash vs Bbyong at Shoutcraft in awhile.
PvP has so many mindgames and when it's two top tier PvPers playing it can be fantastic.
I'm glad mutas are coming back into ZvZ more of late, but I still hate Roach wars.
Flash vs TaeJa at IEM Toronto was after Sandisk Shoutcraft, right? The game on Merry Go Round is very good. Also series like INno vs Cure (Code S semi) and Bomber vs Cure (I think at one of the Redbull events?) were better than what we currently get because more mech vs bio.
Mech vs bio is so fucking good, its like a non-mirror
Also Innovation vs Taeja in New Kirk, that was a game for the ages
I agree, watching mech vs bio on a high level is amazing, like a cooler version of TvP. But it's not very common right now, unfortunately.
TvT is the best for me, but I did think it was a bit more of a clean match up in WoL as one base was not as common plus I do not really like the turbo vacs addition in this match up and the doom dropping that goes with it.
Am i the only one here that just can't stand TvT? Every other matchup is fine, but TvT is like the most boring thing ever for me. and Yes, i have seen all the super possible "BEST OF THE YEAR" games of TvT, i just really dislike the matchup.
I play zerg, so I prefer watching ZvZ myself, even over TvP. But I think I am in a minority of people that watch games as education as much as entertainment. The consensus in the community is TvT > PvP > ZvZ as far as I understand, and have to agree from a (race-neutral) spectator point of view.
TvT has the most variation and tends to go for the longer games, even if both players try shenanigans. Bio vs Mech, Tank vs Tank or anything in between is all possible.
ZvZ can go for interesting games but many devolve into nothing but Ling/Baneling and then Roaches. If the game doesn't go that way though, it can be fun to watch.
PvP I've rarely seen go past one base. Proxy Gates, Stargates or just straight up Blink all-in seems to be all they go for. The few Protoss that do go for an expand and hold it usually win. Once it goes past 10 minutes it usually devolves into War of the Worlds. I have yet to really see a good PvP that really had two different strategies going for it. The one I can remember that gets closest to that involved (I think) Stargate play vs Colossi.
I love PvP, I'm not very good at playing it but I do enjoy it. Mainly because of the mindgames. I feel it's more tactical than the other two mirrors, keeps you thinking and trying to gleam the smallest piece of information at all times for an advantage.
ZvZ though, needs looking at, I almost instantly zone out for ZvZ, I don't find it fun to watch Roaches barf all over each other for 20 minutes personally.