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LastManProductions
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:17 AWalker9 wrote: messioso is my man | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:03 SuperHofmann wrote: I'm sad while i get his point, i think you can't commit to both fully, so he has to get his priorities straight. | ||
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SuperHofmann
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
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DARKING
Mexico675 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:26 Ragnarork wrote: Wait this will be offline? Yes. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18618 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10700 Posts
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
I agree. Competitive Starcraft is like a job. You have to sacrifice some school time (credit hours) in order to work full time. Or, alternatively, you have to sacrifice some job hours to study full time. It looks like Suppy is making a good argument as to why he should not be trying to participate in tournaments. Additionally, "punished for someone else's incompetence" is a horrible way of putting it. You could just as well say that he (initially) benefited from someone else's competence. He's clearly upset that he has to travel to participate, and I can understand that, given that he qualified for "WCS NA". However, with the new merged system, WCS NA is more or less just an American qualifier for WCS Global, which is not necessarily in America. BUT, I will say that it is very very silly to have it so that some players play in America, while others play in Europe, without any warning of which one you will get beforehand. The location of a tournament should be clear and disclosed way before "qualifiers" happen for it. People still do need to plan things. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:21 boxerfred wrote: while i get his point, i think you can't commit to both fully, so he has to get his priorities straight. I agree. At a certain point they have to stop taking everyone's preferences into account and just get on with things. If you know up front that you can't travel to a place and also know up front that there's a 50/50 chance that *have* to travel to that place for the tournament, I feel you maybe should've taken that into account in your decision to participate at all. It's not like any of this is a surprise. It's the same choice the Asian, Australian, and SA guys have, either travel or don't compete. That being said, I think all the practical things could've been decided a heck of a lot sooner, so players get more of a chance to organize their life around WCS is they decide to participate in it. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18618 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:36 Thax wrote: I agree. At a certain point they have to stop taking everyone's preferences into account and just get on with things. If you know up front that you can't travel to a place and also know up front that there's a 50/50 chance that *have* to travel to that place for the tournament, I feel you maybe should've taken that into account in your decision to participate at all. It's not like any of this is a surprise. It's the same choice the Asian, Australian, and SA guys have, either travel or don't compete. That being said, I think all the practical things could've been decided a heck of a lot sooner, so players get more of a chance to organize their life around WCS is they decide to participate in it. Suppy isn't going to lose anything by forfeiting. He gets his 4.5k. And WCS has suddenly a three man group, less viewers, less streamtime. This only hurts one side and its not the player's side | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:38 sharkie wrote: Suppy isn't going to lose anything by forfeiting. He gets his 4.5k. And WCS has suddenly a three man group, less viewers, less streamtime. This only hurts one side and its not the player's side Then why is he complaining? Don't be disingenuous. Also, there's the option of replacing drop outs. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:40 Boucot wrote: While I understand Suppy's frustration, I think players should not be allowed to choose where they want to play, at all. WCS is the most professional SC2 western league in the world, it's not ESL's role to adapt to school schedules. The only issue they should handle is visas, that's all. Exactly. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:26 Ragnarork wrote: Wait this will be offline? did you feel like it was a joke too ? It felt that way to me too ahah. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18618 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:40 Thax wrote: Then why is he complaining? Don't be disingenuous. Also, there's the option of replacing drop outs. Ehh if I were in the players' position I'd handle this exactly like ESL did. Notify of dropping out a few hours before the actual match.  Give them a taste of their own medicine. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:43 sharkie wrote: Ehh if I were in the players' position I'd handle this exactly like ESL did. Notify of dropping out a few hours before the actual match. Give them a taste of their own medicine. Now who's being unprofessional and disappointing viewers? I also fail to see how ESL did anything "a few hours before the match". | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 28 2015 08:40 Boucot wrote: While I understand Suppy's frustration, I think players should not be allowed to choose where they want to play, at all. WCS is the most professional SC2 western league in the world, it's not ESL's role to adapt to school schedules. The only issue they should handle is visas, that's all. Agree 100%. | ||
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