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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
January 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#181
On January 29 2015 02:31 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 01:28 ivancype wrote:


Naniwa literally against the world

hahahaha i was going to post this too xD


I literally cannot cheer hard enough for NaNiwa. He breathes so much emotion into this esport.

Every story needs a villian, and every good team needs a rival. NaNi is just bringing it in spades.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
January 28 2015 19:28 GMT
#182
Well, basicly we came to a conclusion, that every plyer has right to complain... That's nice.
I think that players, who decided to compete in event like this, should have expected, that they would have to travel... I mean it's a global event. You can't expect that you will compete in your hometown, with your neighbours, for the World Championship FFS. But the biggest failure IMO is, that Blizzard or ESL haven't announced rules and seeding, before qualifications.
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freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 19:31:15
January 28 2015 19:28 GMT
#183
On January 29 2015 04:04 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 03:56 freeamount wrote:
On January 29 2015 03:53 sashamunguia wrote:
On January 28 2015 19:00 katana-0815 wrote:
If someone can't compete due to personal issues (study, visa), he just should be replaced. That's the way it works in tournaments as well.

My opinion


Couldn't agree more

The Chinese player iAsonu is actually also studying in one of the best university in China right now. If Suppy complains, what about iAsonu?

Well iAsonu has all the rights to complain if he wants to, although he got the best he could get by having his group in the USA instead of Germany (well I imagine there's less flight time and jetlag from China to the West Coast than from China to Germany right?)

Just come up to point out this:

The time for these three regions:
China: UTC+8 all year long
US Pacific: UTC-8 in winter, UTC-7 in summer
Central Europe: UTC+1 in winter, UTC+2 in summer

So the time differences between them
China and US Pacific: 8 in winter, 9 in summer (you can also say 16 in winter, 15 in summer)
China and Central Europe: 7 in winter, 6 in summer
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#184
On January 29 2015 04:28 freeamount wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 04:04 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 29 2015 03:56 freeamount wrote:
On January 29 2015 03:53 sashamunguia wrote:
On January 28 2015 19:00 katana-0815 wrote:
If someone can't compete due to personal issues (study, visa), he just should be replaced. That's the way it works in tournaments as well.

My opinion


Couldn't agree more

The Chinese player iAsonu is actually also studying in one of the best university in China right now. If Suppy complains, what about iAsonu?

Well iAsonu has all the rights to complain if he wants to, although he got the best he could get by having his group in the USA instead of Germany (well I imagine there's less flight time and jetlag from China to the West Coast than from China to Germany right?)

Just come up to point out this:

The time for these three regions:
China: UTC+8 all year long
US Pacific: UTC-8 in winter, UTC-7 in summer
Central Europe: UTC+1 in winter, UTC+2 in summer

So the time differences between them
China and US Pacific: 8 in winter, 9 in summer (you can also say 16 in winter, 15 in summer)
China and Central Europe: 7 in winter, 6 in summer

Oh ok. Didn't know that.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
January 28 2015 19:45 GMT
#185
On January 29 2015 04:28 freeamount wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 04:04 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 29 2015 03:56 freeamount wrote:
On January 29 2015 03:53 sashamunguia wrote:
On January 28 2015 19:00 katana-0815 wrote:
If someone can't compete due to personal issues (study, visa), he just should be replaced. That's the way it works in tournaments as well.

My opinion


Couldn't agree more

The Chinese player iAsonu is actually also studying in one of the best university in China right now. If Suppy complains, what about iAsonu?

Well iAsonu has all the rights to complain if he wants to, although he got the best he could get by having his group in the USA instead of Germany (well I imagine there's less flight time and jetlag from China to the West Coast than from China to Germany right?)

Just come up to point out this:

The time for these three regions:
China: UTC+8 all year long
US Pacific: UTC-8 in winter, UTC-7 in summer
Central Europe: UTC+1 in winter, UTC+2 in summer

So the time differences between them
China and US Pacific: 8 in winter, 9 in summer (you can also say 16 in winter, 15 in summer)
China and Central Europe: 7 in winter, 6 in summer


it is due to visa issues. It is easier for the PRCs to come to US then to Germany because they might not get a proper Visa in time for Germany/Schengenarea

As happy will play in Germany, because to get a visa for EU as a Russian is far easier then for the USA.

The Problem is, some players get proper regions for the visa issues, other players not. Kane has been 89 days in Switzerland with his holiday visa (schnegenareavisa). He is allowed to be 90 days in the Schengenarea for each 180 days. He can be one day here and then he will become illegal here till the 180 days are over (in late march I think )
If he is not able to optain a working visa or a special holidayvisa, he will not be able to enter the Schengenarea thus not be able to play in Europe.
That the 2 local players of Germany will both play in US may annoy, but hey, the crowd will be 20 people, mostly players and managers, so who cares.

For me the whole issue is the lack of communication.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4105 Posts
January 28 2015 20:00 GMT
#186
lol suddenly Happy can be happy about his draw
Drone is a way of living
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
January 29 2015 02:22 GMT
#187
Suppy's situation is unfortunate. But in a way it's better that he's facing the situation now than to have the even worst situation if he advances to the ro16 and then again face the situation where he doesn't have time to travel to Europe in the later rounds.
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
January 29 2015 12:07 GMT
#188
Naniwa Naniya forever. I hope he revives his glorious days.
one day.. i'll lose my mind
Irri
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden41 Posts
January 29 2015 13:41 GMT
#189
On January 28 2015 07:41 Teapea wrote:
He said something like you he can only be 90 days in EU every 180 days.. And he was in EU for 90 days just, and left in December. So he can't enter EU.


Sure he can, but he will need a visa.
sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
January 29 2015 15:21 GMT
#190
On January 29 2015 22:41 Irri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 07:41 Teapea wrote:
He said something like you he can only be 90 days in EU every 180 days.. And he was in EU for 90 days just, and left in December. So he can't enter EU.


Sure he can, but he will need a visa.


I'm pretty sure this is the 90 days per 180 day period limit for schengen visa. The countdown for the 180 days starts when you enter the area. During this timeperiod you can spend maximum 90 days in the schengen area. On 181st day from your first day the counter resets and you gain 90 days more (provided you apply for another visa).

If he has atleast few days left of his 90 days, I'd consider playing and exiting back to Canada from Spain (or somewhere else in southern Europe), where they to my knowledge don't really care if you stay couple days or even a week too long. I doubt you'd get into too much trouble even leaving from Germany if it's only day or two.. just say you miscalculated and get a slap on the wrist.

Disclaimer: please don't break the law.
hi patrik!
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 29 2015 20:10 GMT
#191
[image loading]
Actual groups
Group A, B, G and H at Burbank, C, D, E and F at Cologne.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 29 2015 20:13 GMT
#192
On January 30 2015 05:10 digmouse wrote:
[image loading]
Actual groups
Group A, B, G and H at Burbank, C, D, E and F at Cologne.

Thanks man, updated everything.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
January 29 2015 20:13 GMT
#193
op updated ^^
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 29 2015 20:14 GMT
#194
Suppy... well, I dunno how he's getting to Europe >.>
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
January 29 2015 20:17 GMT
#195
On January 30 2015 05:14 The_Templar wrote:
Suppy... well, I dunno how he's getting to Europe >.>

invent quantum teleportation
very illegal and very uncool
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 29 2015 20:18 GMT
#196
On January 30 2015 05:17 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 05:14 The_Templar wrote:
Suppy... well, I dunno how he's getting to Europe >.>

invent quantum teleportation

make him finally put that education of his to some use.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 29 2015 20:21 GMT
#197
On January 30 2015 05:14 The_Templar wrote:
Suppy... well, I dunno how he's getting to Europe >.>

Kane as well.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 20:24:30
January 29 2015 20:24 GMT
#198
On January 30 2015 05:21 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 05:14 The_Templar wrote:
Suppy... well, I dunno how he's getting to Europe >.>

Kane as well.

Kane will just have to sneak in and sneak out without getting caught. I think someone said he has like 1 day he can spend there cause he used 89 of 90 last time he was in Europe
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ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
January 29 2015 20:52 GMT
#199
hope someone will update the groups on liquipedia, first vs fourth & second vs third will be the first matches for each group
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
January 29 2015 20:55 GMT
#200
On January 30 2015 05:24 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 05:21 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 30 2015 05:14 The_Templar wrote:
Suppy... well, I dunno how he's getting to Europe >.>

Kane as well.

Kane will just have to sneak in and sneak out without getting caught. I think someone said he has like 1 day he can spend there cause he used 89 of 90 last time he was in Europe


In Germany they will ask you when your flight back is. If he cant show em a valid ticket for the next day, he wount sneak in.

The Problem is, he has to get either a working, a sports or a student visa. Because he cant get a "better" holiday visa. And working visa is though in that short time, but this "work and blablabla" visa (not the real working visa, the visa MC and friends had during their time in germany) will be his best chance, he cant get a sport visa because esport in germany no sport and he cant get a student visa because no student at a german university.

If he does it right he could get this work and do your stuff visa. Even if burocraty is very slow in Germany, there are often official options like "pay 60€ more and have it in 3 days". For example if we Germans need very fast a new passport, we pay up to 45€ and got it in 3 days instead of 4 weeks. Thats how we pay our bourocrats.
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