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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On January 27 2015 08:52 ZeRoX_TV wrote: Well best plays are definately in Korean WCS so you can watch it there. I was talking about people who would rather see NA and EU players in action, something you couldnt really see much last few months. I would rather see MarineLord vs Masa, duking it out for glory, then watching Stardust vs MC 20th time in a row in European WCS, it became boring and I believe there is more people like me. I have nothing against Korean players, there are far the best in the world, but sometimes I have feeling that there is only 30ish players on this planet winning everything. This is kinda fresh and I was really demotivated watching TaeJa or MMA crushing through EU or NA WCS for a while. Also, this way many new players can poput, some established can win something and get motivated to play better in other tournaments vs Koreans. If we stayed on same boat, answer on your question "can it happen?" would ne "No, it can't". I hope this will motivate old and new forces to make NA and EU server at least comparable to KR and show better fight on major tournaments, no one likes to get crushed in pretty much only big tournament and "appear offline" for a year when doesent qualify for WCS because there are some guys picking up their spots. We will still see this foreigner getting crushed by "the used dudes". Every Dreamhack, HSC and IEM will show it to us. And with a worse training in Europe (All Americans play on Kr Server because for real, NA server... ) due to the lack of top lvl players from the otherside of the world, we might see more games like Marinelord vs Masa, but then this scene develops again more and more into a "these super koreans there" and a "these foreigners here" without a connection but they will once a year meet at Blizzcon to get slaughterd and once in a while at a dreamhack or a IEM. And soon after you threw out the koreans because they are koreans of WCS, someone will shout "dont watch dreamhack, the same koreans destroy the foreign hope again" and the scene will split more and more. It is easy for you to say "watch this korean stuff at 11 am." (when I work and cant watch it) but I really loved to get in contact with these players here at the ESL Studio, at TaKes place and so on. The Best players did not isolate anymore, they came to us, their fans, they played here, they moved their entire life here (talking about player who moved, like MC, Yoda, First, Sacsri, Jakji, Stardust, Patience and Golden ) and forced the europeens to meet them on the ladder an skill up. All they got are annoyed viewers like you and a asskick by WCS. When you knew how much Stardust and MC hated each other, you would maybe different about it. And where shall players like Snute or Bunny, who meet Koreans on IEM and Dreamhacks often, train for these koreans? How shall they train games like the wonderfull sets Snute played against herO at IEM? Either move to korea (for a time) or skill down. Thats what I dont like. Yes, the new WCS supports the local players more in terms of money. But it is again a step back into a time where the world of starcraft was divided in these koreans and these foreigners and the skill gap becomes again higher and higher. Just in a time where thought it would close and close. We are back in a System like LoL, where US and Europeen cheer for their teams just to see how they get roflstompt each year at the worlds by the KESPA boys. I dont want to see Europeens roflstomped by koreans, I want to see them compete. And thats why I hate it that SC II pros get so less support by the society here, by the state and now they are back again a step more isolated from korea. But you dont improve when you dont messure yourself with the top. You dont improve by fighting Masa and Marinelord on ladder all day, you improve by fighting MMA, MC, Yoda or Golden. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:05 stuchiu wrote: ??????????????????????? You cant say to player A "you can choose where you play (and your whole group", to player B "you play there" and to player C "you play TURN DOWN FOR WHAAAT" And then getting an all Z group... | ||
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
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duckk
United States622 Posts
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rotta
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33432 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:19 duckk wrote: Naniwa is probably pissed. His group was a bye. Imagine if now he gets ForGG and Polt. | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:20 Aeromi wrote: Astrea said ESL is going to redraw, NaNi was in the NA bowl, there is the WCS CIS thing and some players already decided to play in Germany or in the US whereas other players did not receive any mail about the location for the RO32. I'm surprised at how much they managed to screw the group drawing :D | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:22 Waxangel wrote: do we blame the ESL NA office for this :D? The entire american education system! | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:23 Faefae wrote: I'm surprised at how much they managed to screw the group drawing :D hmmm like the rest of this Season? | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
They never taught us geography! | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
Plus Yurop is a hell of a big country | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I don't see how the groups are any more random whether nani was in the na bowl or not. It really shouldn't matter. Because they drew Targa before they put Naniwa back into the EU bowl. So they could've drawn Naniwa instead of Targa if it was done right. And from there everything changes. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:54 Musicus wrote: Because they drew Targa before they put Naniwa back into the EU bowl. So they could've drawn Naniwa instead of Targa if it was done right. And from there everything changes. But it could have just as easily gone the way it did even if the bowls were right. It's still just as random. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On January 27 2015 09:23 The_Templar wrote: Imagine if now he gets ForGG and Polt. I'm not that lucky. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Pray to Sniper with your soul and he will deliver you to the promised land. | ||
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