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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 09 2015 00:14 GMT
#21
On January 09 2015 08:49 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, this is really good. Maybe Blizzard will hire new mapmakers next ;D

Seriously... Why don't they also hire like, retiring pro-players so that they can actually balance the game? Think how cool it'd be if Idra or Qxc were hired by Blizzard...

Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3821 Posts
January 09 2015 00:15 GMT
#22
lol Wax

Congrats to Ryan!
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
January 09 2015 00:15 GMT
#23
Wow this is so good to see! Our community members are truly the best
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
January 09 2015 00:15 GMT
#24
NICE! My wish list is a Starcraft app to observe games. (Non twitch, actual game observation)
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
January 09 2015 00:15 GMT
#25
I do hope they change the current WCS overlay. Forget non optimal it's worse than the default overlay that came in early in WoL. That Blizzard hired him kind of makes me concerned about the direction they think overlays should evolve (huge fonts while showing as little information as possible).
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 09 2015 00:18 GMT
#26
I really thought that was already the case pretty much.

I hope he gave a big boost to the battlenet and SC2 interface and UI team.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 09 2015 00:26 GMT
#27
Congrats !
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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
January 09 2015 00:27 GMT
#28
On January 09 2015 09:14 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 08:49 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, this is really good. Maybe Blizzard will hire new mapmakers next ;D

Seriously... Why don't they also hire like, retiring pro-players so that they can actually balance the game? Think how cool it'd be if Idra or Qxc were hired by Blizzard...




While it would be cool, I think the main reason that Blizzard doesn't do this is because of biased a specific player might have to the game, or the changes that they would be allowed to make from their suggestions would be too little to compensate for the position. I think they want people who have real world "experience" in balancing games.
Also consider the fact that they would have to pay Idra or Qxc when they have mentioned several times that blizzard reaches out to pro players for feedback as well as suggestions, so why make a paid position when you could have the opinion of current progamers for free.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
January 09 2015 00:36 GMT
#29
On January 09 2015 09:15 Yakikorosu wrote:
makes me concerned about the direction they think overlays should evolve (huge fonts while showing as little information as possible).


Indeed. Gameheart is great but the actual overlay used along side it matters equally! ESL used the blocky-less-info layout in their last event (san jose I think), it does feel like a step back in some ways even with gameheart showing extra stuff like drone kills or upgrades. I would guess that they don't want to turn casuals off from SC2 with information overload? Which ironically is exactly the opposite of what players and regular viewers want.

GSLs overlay is hands down the nicest imho, and the bro-love of tastosis warms my heart. Has to be good that gameheart has found a home at blizz regardless. It's one thing blizz has always been good at, learning from the community about which UI features were popular and integrating them into the game. Taken them a while with SC2, but better late than never hey.
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Obeast96
Profile Joined October 2012
United States106 Posts
January 09 2015 00:44 GMT
#30
On January 09 2015 09:27 zeratul_jf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 09:14 Blargh wrote:
On January 09 2015 08:49 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, this is really good. Maybe Blizzard will hire new mapmakers next ;D

Seriously... Why don't they also hire like, retiring pro-players so that they can actually balance the game? Think how cool it'd be if Idra or Qxc were hired by Blizzard...




While it would be cool, I think the main reason that Blizzard doesn't do this is because of biased a specific player might have to the game, or the changes that they would be allowed to make from their suggestions would be too little to compensate for the position. I think they want people who have real world "experience" in balancing games.
Also consider the fact that they would have to pay Idra or Qxc when they have mentioned several times that blizzard reaches out to pro players for feedback as well as suggestions, so why make a paid position when you could have the opinion of current progamers for free.


I'm pretty sure Destiny addressed something like this. The reason why hiring current progamers would be bad is because they would be biased towards making the game more standard because if you're a pro-gamer, having to re-learn certain game mechanics or new units can actually put on financial burdens. If you make it a paid position, the pressure of making a living off playing the game is off the shoulders, and can focus on making the game more fun to play, spectator-friendly, etc; in other words, they would be able to suggest radical changes to the game. Though I still think the input of current pro-gamers is still valuable, I don't think that a dedicated, paid position would be a waste on Blizzard's end.
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
January 09 2015 00:52 GMT
#31
Congrats!
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
January 09 2015 01:02 GMT
#32
Congrats! Great news.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4182 Posts
January 09 2015 01:09 GMT
#33
On January 09 2015 09:14 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 08:49 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, this is really good. Maybe Blizzard will hire new mapmakers next ;D

Seriously... Why don't they also hire like, retiring pro-players so that they can actually balance the game? Think how cool it'd be if Idra or Qxc were hired by Blizzard...


It sounds nice, but I think Blizzard wants to hire people with actual design and programming skills. I don't think these type of companies have much use for "idea" guys, as ideas can be found everywhere and are usually free.

Unless they want to stick them on the QA team, I know a lot of former WoW raiders get hired to do QA for WoW.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
January 09 2015 01:22 GMT
#34
Ok Blizzard, you needed a good mapmaker, and you have found a good one. Now youa need a goodmaphacker... Oh wait! I mean, you need someone to stop maphacking, eheh

Gj to Ryan
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Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
January 09 2015 01:27 GMT
#35
Wow GZ to him (and blizzard, motivated passionate employees don't fall off trees!)
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 09 2015 01:28 GMT
#36
On January 09 2015 10:09 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 09:14 Blargh wrote:
On January 09 2015 08:49 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, this is really good. Maybe Blizzard will hire new mapmakers next ;D

Seriously... Why don't they also hire like, retiring pro-players so that they can actually balance the game? Think how cool it'd be if Idra or Qxc were hired by Blizzard...


It sounds nice, but I think Blizzard wants to hire people with actual design and programming skills. I don't think these type of companies have much use for "idea" guys, as ideas can be found everywhere and are usually free.

Unless they want to stick them on the QA team, I know a lot of former WoW raiders get hired to do QA for WoW.

No... But an ex pro-gamer has infinitely more knowledge about the game than any of their employees (probably combined). Of course, I don't think Blizzard would ever do it, but I think it would help tremendously in making SC2 a real high quality competitive game.

I wouldn't think it'd be that necessary if they didn't make the stupidest suggestions and unit additions ever. While I think a couple of the ideas they have are alright, there has never been one where I thought "Wow, that's a really good idea" except for when something was blatantly overpowered/broken. They just have no clue what to do for maps, unit changes, and unit design. It's agonizing, because I think SC2 has a huge amount of potential.
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
January 09 2015 01:33 GMT
#37
He definitely deserves it, GameHeart has made an amazing difference to spectating.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4182 Posts
January 09 2015 01:41 GMT
#38
On January 09 2015 10:28 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:09 lestye wrote:
On January 09 2015 09:14 Blargh wrote:
On January 09 2015 08:49 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, this is really good. Maybe Blizzard will hire new mapmakers next ;D

Seriously... Why don't they also hire like, retiring pro-players so that they can actually balance the game? Think how cool it'd be if Idra or Qxc were hired by Blizzard...


It sounds nice, but I think Blizzard wants to hire people with actual design and programming skills. I don't think these type of companies have much use for "idea" guys, as ideas can be found everywhere and are usually free.

Unless they want to stick them on the QA team, I know a lot of former WoW raiders get hired to do QA for WoW.

No... But an ex pro-gamer has infinitely more knowledge about the game than any of their employees (probably combined). Of course, I don't think Blizzard would ever do it, but I think it would help tremendously in making SC2 a real high quality competitive game.

I wouldn't think it'd be that necessary if they didn't make the stupidest suggestions and unit additions ever. While I think a couple of the ideas they have are alright, there has never been one where I thought "Wow, that's a really good idea" except for when something was blatantly overpowered/broken. They just have no clue what to do for maps, unit changes, and unit design. It's agonizing, because I think SC2 has a huge amount of potential.

I mean, that's an issue, they have knowledge/insight, but I don't think that's enough to justify a posisition. They actually have to have skills in gamemaking, the job you're describing doesn't exist.

Being an idea guy alone isn't going to get you a job.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 09 2015 01:44 GMT
#39
On January 09 2015 10:41 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:28 Blargh wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:09 lestye wrote:
On January 09 2015 09:14 Blargh wrote:
On January 09 2015 08:49 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, this is really good. Maybe Blizzard will hire new mapmakers next ;D

Seriously... Why don't they also hire like, retiring pro-players so that they can actually balance the game? Think how cool it'd be if Idra or Qxc were hired by Blizzard...


It sounds nice, but I think Blizzard wants to hire people with actual design and programming skills. I don't think these type of companies have much use for "idea" guys, as ideas can be found everywhere and are usually free.

Unless they want to stick them on the QA team, I know a lot of former WoW raiders get hired to do QA for WoW.

No... But an ex pro-gamer has infinitely more knowledge about the game than any of their employees (probably combined). Of course, I don't think Blizzard would ever do it, but I think it would help tremendously in making SC2 a real high quality competitive game.

I wouldn't think it'd be that necessary if they didn't make the stupidest suggestions and unit additions ever. While I think a couple of the ideas they have are alright, there has never been one where I thought "Wow, that's a really good idea" except for when something was blatantly overpowered/broken. They just have no clue what to do for maps, unit changes, and unit design. It's agonizing, because I think SC2 has a huge amount of potential.

I mean, that's an issue, they have knowledge/insight, but I don't think that's enough to justify a posisition. They actually have to have skills in gamemaking, the job you're describing doesn't exist.

Being an idea guy alone isn't going to get you a job.


Being an idea guy means you should be a venture entrepreneur giving jobs to other people or doing something you love instead of a paycheque.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#40
Congrats!
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