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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
December 22 2014 02:15 GMT
#41
Hmm, I've quite skeptical about putting SKT T1 above Jin Air, and I'm not 100% sold on KT number one, just because their players have had some troubling results lately (Zest missing SSL/GSL qualifications, Flash getting DESTROYED by Life, and Stats still not doing much - beat ByuL to qual for SSL but lost to Penguin, lol, in GSL qual). Now, I know you can be good in teamleague without individual results, it's just not a good sign for them, and they don't really have anyone comparable on the bench. They're particularly weak in the Zerg department.

Also, I'm gonna have to become a ST fan or something (ugh) if people keep rating them so low... I think they're stronger than IM was last season, and IM wasn't awful (they weren't particularly good, either, but...yeah...)
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
December 22 2014 02:17 GMT
#42
Pfft, get in line with everyone else and put it in the aggregator, stuchiu.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 02:21:39
December 22 2014 02:21 GMT
#43
I definitely think CJ are going to be more than the sum of their parts. In terms of comparing roster to roster, they don't match up too well, but Coach Park will elevate them. They were only one ace match away from the finals (that herO really, really could have won if Rain hadn't clutched so hard).

Hoping for CJ win; expecting SKT
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NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
December 22 2014 02:44 GMT
#44
The part about Choya is astounding. Props to whoever wrote that and came up w/ all that information.
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TOAA
Profile Joined October 2014
United States38 Posts
December 22 2014 03:16 GMT
#45
fucking choya lol, i remember gsl 2010 and choya was known for asking people for wins lol, overall Choya has impacted sc2 teams for years, good for him.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 22 2014 03:20 GMT
#46
On December 22 2014 10:51 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 10:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:25 esdf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.

None of that really matters when Flash had lackluster individual results but still got ~40 wins (most) in 2013 and ~25 wins (top five) in 2014

Well, he does get fielded basically every game just because he's Flash and his Brood War history...

And he wins most of his games rofl...

You're acting like he gets his starting spot because of his fame when he actually gets it because he wins
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 22 2014 03:22 GMT
#47
On December 22 2014 12:20 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 10:51 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On December 22 2014 10:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:25 esdf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.

None of that really matters when Flash had lackluster individual results but still got ~40 wins (most) in 2013 and ~25 wins (top five) in 2014

Well, he does get fielded basically every game just because he's Flash and his Brood War history...

And he wins most of his games rofl...

You're acting like he gets his starting spot because of his fame when he actually gets it because he wins

Ignore that dude, all he does is try and shit on certain players. Mostly Zest and Rain, but Flash too I guess
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 22 2014 04:52 GMT
#48
Pretty safe picks, I think you're underestimating MVP though. They are pretty legit.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 22 2014 04:54 GMT
#49
Interesting Choya stats. And KT overrated as hell as always.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 22 2014 05:03 GMT
#50
Reigning champs so overrated. Don't be mad!

Pretty much agree, though i'd swap SKT and JAGW spots.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 22 2014 05:42 GMT
#51
On December 22 2014 14:03 Phredxor wrote:
Reigning champs so overrated. Don't be mad!

Pretty much agree, though i'd swap SKT and JAGW spots.


Sure they are. The performance of their four key players has mostly declined since their Proleague win. Zest has been struggling a lot recently, and Flash and Stats's performance has been so and so, recently missing out on GSL. TY is still going strong. I don't think KT with Zest playing at only this level can make it, at least for the first round.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
December 22 2014 06:32 GMT
#52
On December 22 2014 13:52 The_Templar wrote:
Pretty safe picks, I think you're underestimating MVP though. They are pretty legit.


What if you hyped Prime and not MVP.
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Samx
Profile Joined August 2013
Singapore149 Posts
December 22 2014 06:37 GMT
#53
Loss of hoejia is big. Not too sure about ryu won. When you look at last season's finals, KT out-strategize SKT1. Almost every game was build order advantage for KT. And during their semis match, hoejia again managed to beat ryu won in strategies, even though in terms of team strength they are pretty equal.

A lot of people are jumping on the JAGW bandwagon. A deep squad means nothing, only 4 players get to play. Remember SKT? There's no use of having a GSL champion Classic in the bench and not playing. The only thing that could really hurt KT is if there are suddenly lots of Zerg favored maps (not sure if such a thing exist, Daedalus was only Zerg favored in zvp). For last season, zest was the best player in Korea. But flash still got more wins in Proleague despite being horrible in individual league. TY is looking more consistent now and given how the current balance favors terran, the 1-2 terran punch of Flash and Ty is by far the strongest in the league. Coupled with Zest, it's hard to not rank KT as number 1.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 22 2014 06:54 GMT
#54
^ flash and ty by far stronger than maru and cure? I beg to differ!
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 22 2014 06:59 GMT
#55
On December 22 2014 10:51 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 10:26 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:25 esdf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.

None of that really matters when Flash had lackluster individual results but still got ~40 wins (most) in 2013 and ~25 wins (top five) in 2014

Well, he does get fielded basically every game just because he's Flash and his Brood War history...

And he has a 23-16 record, 60% win rate last season, 44-21 (68%) in 2012-13 season, which dumbass coach would not field him every game?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 22 2014 07:18 GMT
#56
MVP part made me lol hard.

Also Ryung's drawing.

10/10 write up
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 22 2014 07:26 GMT
#57
CJ #4? You're greatly underestimating Coach Park's magic, stuchiu
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 22 2014 07:30 GMT
#58
On December 22 2014 15:37 Samx wrote:
Loss of hoejia is big. Not too sure about ryu won. When you look at last season's finals, KT out-strategize SKT1. Almost every game was build order advantage for KT. And during their semis match, hoejia again managed to beat ryu won in strategies, even though in terms of team strength they are pretty equal.

A lot of people are jumping on the JAGW bandwagon. A deep squad means nothing, only 4 players get to play. Remember SKT? There's no use of having a GSL champion Classic in the bench and not playing. The only thing that could really hurt KT is if there are suddenly lots of Zerg favored maps (not sure if such a thing exist, Daedalus was only Zerg favored in zvp). For last season, zest was the best player in Korea. But flash still got more wins in Proleague despite being horrible in individual league. TY is looking more consistent now and given how the current balance favors terran, the 1-2 terran punch of Flash and Ty is by far the strongest in the league. Coupled with Zest, it's hard to not rank KT as number 1.


INno / Dream >> Flash / TY
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
December 22 2014 07:30 GMT
#59
That description of Choya and gif of INnoVation are both so good hahahaha...
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
December 22 2014 08:22 GMT
#60
On December 22 2014 16:30 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 15:37 Samx wrote:
Loss of hoejia is big. Not too sure about ryu won. When you look at last season's finals, KT out-strategize SKT1. Almost every game was build order advantage for KT. And during their semis match, hoejia again managed to beat ryu won in strategies, even though in terms of team strength they are pretty equal.

A lot of people are jumping on the JAGW bandwagon. A deep squad means nothing, only 4 players get to play. Remember SKT? There's no use of having a GSL champion Classic in the bench and not playing. The only thing that could really hurt KT is if there are suddenly lots of Zerg favored maps (not sure if such a thing exist, Daedalus was only Zerg favored in zvp). For last season, zest was the best player in Korea. But flash still got more wins in Proleague despite being horrible in individual league. TY is looking more consistent now and given how the current balance favors terran, the 1-2 terran punch of Flash and Ty is by far the strongest in the league. Coupled with Zest, it's hard to not rank KT as number 1.


INno / Dream >> Flash / TY

I just hope we see more of Dream. I'd love to see him in place of players like soO and Classic and Dark every so often. He clearly has a great TvZ (looking at SSL match against Solar).
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