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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
December 21 2014 23:51 GMT
#21
No Rogue love, article is worthless : D
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
December 21 2014 23:57 GMT
#22
On December 22 2014 08:04 vhapter wrote:
I think Jin Air has a much better chance of winning than SKT.

I do agree. Jin Air is my current favorite, as they not only have the most well-rounded team, but they also have some absolutely top-tier players in Maru and sOs, with really solid up-and-coming players, Rogue and Terminator. But all it takes is 2 wins and Innovation for SKT to beat a team!!

But I could understand KT being a favorite here, with Flash, Zest, Stats, and TY. I do believe both Zest and Flash are completely out of GSL/SSL, so should be focusing quite a bit on Proleague these few rounds. And Stats is gonna get knocked out by Innovation, leaving him to PL full-time too!
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 22 2014 00:13 GMT
#23
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
December 22 2014 00:14 GMT
#24
That picture of innovation is surprisingly accurate
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 22 2014 00:14 GMT
#25
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 22 2014 00:25 GMT
#26
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 22 2014 00:35 GMT
#27
whats up with that innovation gif?
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 00:45:09
December 22 2014 00:43 GMT
#28
On December 22 2014 09:25 esdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.


He lost 2-1 to soO, drg in the last ro16. I wouldn't call that bombing out.

He went 10-0 in games in the first round of GSL WC but then lost to maru and didn't qualify for the main event.

Conclusion: Super bad player, flash
maru G5L pls
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 22 2014 01:04 GMT
#29
On December 22 2014 09:35 Paljas wrote:
whats up with that innovation gif?

Might've been from some special when the progamers had to draw each other or something?
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Supersamu
Profile Joined November 2014
Germany296 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 01:08:53
December 22 2014 01:08 GMT
#30
7/31/14 - The greatest evil in SC2, Sniper retires.


I am new to Korean professional SC2 and Proleague specifically, why is Sniper "the greatest evil in SC2"?
I am currently watching the Vods of 2014 PL, I am almost finished with Round 1, but nothing about Sniper has stood out to me (yet).

Just curious.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 01:14:45
December 22 2014 01:13 GMT
#31
On December 22 2014 10:08 Supersamu wrote:
Show nested quote +
7/31/14 - The greatest evil in SC2, Sniper retires.


I am new to Korean professional SC2 and Proleague specifically, why is Sniper "the greatest evil in SC2"?
I am currently watching the Vods of 2014 PL, I am almost finished with Round 1, but nothing about Sniper has stood out to me (yet).

Just curious.


His GSL victory came by defeat a ton of fan favorites on the way. He was sent out in the GSTL against Slayers in their final match and made eve cry, and stopped Yugioh during his rampage, which was one of the most legendary matches of WoL (seriously go watch it)
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 22 2014 01:16 GMT
#32
On December 22 2014 09:25 esdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.


Zest and soO also bombed out of both GSL/SSL this season.
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
December 22 2014 01:18 GMT
#33
fucking so hype for PL <3

I love Starcraft
KT FlaSh FOREVER
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 22 2014 01:18 GMT
#34
On December 22 2014 10:13 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 10:08 Supersamu wrote:
7/31/14 - The greatest evil in SC2, Sniper retires.


I am new to Korean professional SC2 and Proleague specifically, why is Sniper "the greatest evil in SC2"?
I am currently watching the Vods of 2014 PL, I am almost finished with Round 1, but nothing about Sniper has stood out to me (yet).

Just curious.


His GSL victory came by defeat a ton of fan favorites on the way. He was sent out in the GSTL against Slayers in their final match and made eve cry, and stopped Yugioh during his rampage, which was one of the most legendary matches of WoL (seriously go watch it)

on the back of a load of zvz finals at the time as well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 22 2014 01:24 GMT
#35
Wow, this PR will look awfully silly when ST wins :o
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 22 2014 01:26 GMT
#36
On December 22 2014 09:25 esdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.

None of that really matters when Flash had lackluster individual results but still got ~40 wins (most) in 2013 and ~25 wins (top five) in 2014
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
December 22 2014 01:27 GMT
#37
I still don't get why STYFW is so underrated. They are gunna do better than CJ and SG.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 01:36:27
December 22 2014 01:30 GMT
#38
stuchiu you wat mate? st last place? yoooooooooooou wat maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate wow

oh shit i didn't even see the prime part haha still i think st is way too low
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SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
December 22 2014 01:51 GMT
#39
On December 22 2014 10:26 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 09:25 esdf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 22 2014 09:13 esdf wrote:
Flash, TY and Stats have recently shown great form with each having a commendable result in individual leagues.

When was this written? Flash showing great form recently? :D

Not this month, but before that he won IEM Toronto and got second at HSC X.

And? Those are micky mouse tournaments compared to GSL/SSL for which he either doesn't qualify or regularly bombs out, ro16 latest.

None of that really matters when Flash had lackluster individual results but still got ~40 wins (most) in 2013 and ~25 wins (top five) in 2014

Well, he does get fielded basically every game just because he's Flash and his Brood War history...
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 02:03:04
December 22 2014 01:52 GMT
#40
eh I was agreeing up until I hit CJ.

Jin Air is #1 in my book though I could maybe see KT over them given they they're the champs that won with basically the same lineup last season. Jin Air is definitely above SKT at a minimum.

I don't think CJ got hit all that hard either. It's a net loss since Gumi is gone, but sKyHigh seems like he's at least somewhat relevant again. So that softens the blow a little. In terms of Zergs, I think you like many others underestimate ByuL. If anything he's a better addition than Hydra and Effort combined. Those two had some of the worst records last season.

ofc he's gonna make me look bad by probably losing to Solar tonight, cause ZvZ is the bane of him >_>;
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