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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 15 2014 21:35 GMT
#201
There was no stream
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 15 2014 21:37 GMT
#202
There was no Stream. GSL Qualifiers are normally not streamed.
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SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
December 15 2014 21:38 GMT
#203
On December 16 2014 06:15 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Kinda funny that only 3 out of the top 8 requalified for Code S. This is quite a strange but cool line up, I'm really excited to see how this goes.

On December 16 2014 06:08 SpunXtain20 wrote:
No seeding at all.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

Flash wouldn't have made it, but soO and Zest should 100% be there... what the fuck is this? Pretty much the consensus best players in the world for 2014 with the only competition being from Life & Taeja.

Seriously can't fathom this. One bad day and your whole 2015 is fucked.

That can be said about literally any match anybody has on any one day. You want to win, you gotta put up results when the time comes.


Yes, but this is an ongoing tournament which deserves to have seeding. In 2012/13/14 etc. (my memory isn't 100% on this) but I'm quite sure the seeds of the previous year carried over, at least the top 8.

It's also even more important this time because there will be no Code A. Literally they've gone from finalists to off the radar for 4 months simply because of a new format change.. ridiculous

Why are you so mad? KT's best toss is still in SSL and Proleague..
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 15 2014 21:39 GMT
#204
On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against.


Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta.

In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit.

There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this.


What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that.
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 21:47:48
December 15 2014 21:47 GMT
#205
On December 16 2014 06:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against.


Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta.

In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit.

There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this.


What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that.

Maybe top8 KR seeded + standard Code A with 48 slots (= top3 from qualifiers instead of top2) into 24 players qualifying to Code S could have worked as well
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
December 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#206
On December 16 2014 06:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against.


Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta.

In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit.

There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this.


What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that.


They shouldn't have been made to come back in the first place. Blizzard fucks around with its stupid WCS season every year and messes a tonne of players around doing so, and there's no evidence that this is going to be any better than 2014. If you're going to take responsibility for managing the entire e-sports system, taking a tonne of power off KeSPA and co, do it properly.
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SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
December 15 2014 21:50 GMT
#207
On December 16 2014 06:49 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:39 Zealously wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:17 SpunXtain20 wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:14 FeyFey wrote:
the people that praised soO and Zest got hit with the reality, again. The two will be back though, they just suck against players they don't play often against.


Starcraft 2 is a volatile game. In BW, players were treated to no balance changes for the last decade of the game, with balance being tweeked slightly by maps and meta.

In SC2, there are new strategies being born and destroyed constantly by things completely out of the players' control. It's nigh impossible to stay on top of a game that fluctuates with this much volatility - indeed, Blizzard ensures this by nerfing anything that appears to become too strong. Innovation was knocked down in 2013 after Blizz nerfed hellbats as a direct response to his & Flash's usage of the unit.

There has to be some protection for the big guys from going down like this.


What would you propose as the fairest solution for the people that were forced to return to Korea despite placing at the top of their chosen WCS regions the season before? The WCS EU/AM top 8 had no choice, they had to come to Korea and participate in the qualifiers. It's rough, but I think it was fairest to equalize the playing field and make everyone do that.


They shouldn't have been made to come back in the first place. Blizzard fucks around with its stupid WCS season every year and messes a tonne of players around doing so, and there's no evidence that this is going to be any better than 2014. If you're going to take responsibility for managing the entire e-sports system, taking a tonne of power off KeSPA and co, do it properly.


But failing that - there should at least be a Code A where AM/EU/KR top 8 are guaranteed to be placed somewhere in the system. You can't simultaneously expand the playing field and reduce the tournament's size at the same time.
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
December 15 2014 21:52 GMT
#208
no soO, Life, Flash, sOs, Zest ;(
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 15 2014 21:53 GMT
#209
I'm fine with the huge reset. No one should have an advantage going into 2015 for WCS points.
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Homunculus159
Profile Joined December 2014
Austria220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 21:59:31
December 15 2014 21:55 GMT
#210
I don´t really get it. Others played better than soO and the rest of the "elite Kespa Players" and qualified. They had 2 chances to qualify for a big tournament so please stop the whining. There are still 2 seasons worth 4 Tournaments and then there are still Kespa Cups. They are not fucked or anything...
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 21:59:11
December 15 2014 21:58 GMT
#211
Oh man, the salt. This would had been even better if we could had watched it live.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 15 2014 22:05 GMT
#212
Poor soO Reach 4 finals and get your seed taken away from you...
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therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
December 15 2014 22:07 GMT
#213
while I'm bummed that soO and zest is out, if they failed to qualify then they failed to qualified. Should not blame the bracket when there are a ton of people that were able to qualify for both league. i still think they are the best for the respective race tho.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 15 2014 22:26 GMT
#214
On December 16 2014 06:52 KappaKingPrime wrote:
no soO, Life, Flash, sOs, Zest ;(


Life is in
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10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
December 15 2014 22:30 GMT
#215
On December 16 2014 03:15 kochanfe wrote:
Shockingly, the trio of soO, sOs, and Zest failed to qualify for BOTH StarLeagues. Incidentally, three of the four matches that led to sOs's elimination were 2-1 losses at the hands of Curious, who knocked him out of the winner's bracket of the SSL qualifier as well as both the winner's and loser's brackets of the GSL qualifier... that's some shitty luck if you ask me. Zest found himself knocked out mostly by zergs, with a 2-0 loss to Rogue as well as 2-1 losses to Leenock and DeParture (with a 2-1 loss to SKT's T Dream to thank as well) in addition to a loss to Symbol in the SSL Wildcard Bracket. soO, on the other hand, was knocked out by Bbyong, San, PartinG, and Rogue (with an additional loss to YongHwa in the Wildcard Bracket).
Other well-known players who failed to qualify for BOTH individual leagues include but are not limited to: jjakji, HerO, Stork, Trap, HyuN, DongRaeGu, TRUE, and Symbol.

There is a (surprisingly high, at least to me) total of TWENTY players who successfully qualified for BOTH individual leagues, a list that includes 7 protosses, 8 terrans, and 5 zergs and is as follows:
Dear, herO, PartinG, San, Super, Terminator, YongHwa
Dream, FanTaSy, GuMiho, INnoVation, MarineKing, Maru, TaeJa, TY
Dark, Life, Rogue, Solar, Soulkey

As it stands currently, the team demographics of the 64 slots that make up the two individual leagues is like this:
8 SKT, 7 JinAir, 5 CJ, 5 MVP, 5 YoeFW, 4 Invasion eSport, 4 KT, 4 Samsung, 4 StarTale, 3 Dead Pixels, 2 Acer, 2 Liquid, 2 Prime, 2 TCM, 1 Axiom, 1 Dignitas, 1 iG, 1 mYi, 1 RedBull, and finally 2 'teamless'


Interesting post.

Indeed 3 losses to Curious from sOs, two of them decisive. T_T
I remember Curious for being the zerg that beat innovation at the top of his form for in the qualifiers for IEM NY (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_New_York/Asia_Final_Qualifier, it was also the first appearance for Zest as far as I'm concerned). At that moment I thought he'd be a new thing but he more or less disappeared (?). Here again in ZvP mode.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 22:32:41
December 15 2014 22:30 GMT
#216
Wow......really kind of sad that there is so few Zergs.... Poor soO .... >_<

EDIT :

13 Terrans
12 Protoss
7 Zergs



On December 16 2014 07:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:30 GGzerG wrote:
Wow......really kind of sad that there is so few Zergs.... Poor JaeDong and soO .... >_<

Poor Jaedong? He didn't even try!



Ahh your right I wasn't thinking...just kind of always hoping to see JD in Code S I guess by default - -

..updated -,-
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 15 2014 22:31 GMT
#217
On December 16 2014 07:30 GGzerG wrote:
Wow......really kind of sad that there is so few Zergs.... Poor JaeDong and soO .... >_<

Poor Jaedong? He didn't even try!
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Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1105 Posts
December 15 2014 22:35 GMT
#218
No sKyHigh in GSL =(
Happy he made SSL though.
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swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
December 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#219
As stated before my many, Zest and soO are in very big slumps. They should be beating the players that are beating them. It should have been either Zest or soO in the finals, at least, at Blizzcon. I don't know what happened to them, but they are not playing as well as they should be. These two are considered the best in the world at their race, but right now, they are in slumps that seems like it can't be recovered. I hope they recover soon. Code S won't be the same without Zest or soO winning or reaching the finals.
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F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 22:47:10
December 15 2014 22:46 GMT
#220
Yay Marineking is in!! :D

Also go MMA and Fantasy!!
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