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HOT6 CUP 2014: Quarter Finals Day 1 Preview

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HOT6 CUP 2014: Quarter Finals Day 1 Preview

Text bylichter
Graphics byshiroiusagi
December 2nd, 2014 00:49 GMT
Photos: GomTV and ThisIsGame
Hot6ix Cup

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Hot6ix Cup Ro8 Day 1
MarineKing vs Parting
Soulkey vs Zest

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MarineKing vs PartinG:
The Old Made New

by Destructicon

There is something in the cold winds of this winter, something that seems to breathe new life into old pros and revive old rivalries. (T)MarineKing vs (P)PartinG is one such rivalry. It all started on that fateful April day in 2012 at IPL 4. Just as PartinG was about to bring the hammer down upon MarineKing in their GSTL finals match, the latter was disconnected from the game. With resume from replay technology still unavailable, the referees decided on a regame, sparking one of the biggest controversies at the time. Down in supply, with a warp prism in his main and the main protoss army not far behind, many believed MarineKing was already dead. However the regame was withheld and the two players mimicked their moves to a T, almost like they were replaying the game up till a point. But then after a couple of back and forth engagements the story began unfolding differently. MarineKing's micro was too sharp this time, and PartinG crumbled. MarineKing would go on to finish off the rest of StarTale and secure the GSTL for PRIME. Despite getting revenge in the group stage of the following GSL, fans still wanted to see more. Unfortunately time is a cruel mistress and it broke apart the two competitors before we could see their rivalry play out.

The forgotten king

Soon after the GSTL concluded the queen patch reared its ugly head. Terrans everywhere struggled to cope. Some still found an inkling of success, but MarineKing was not one of them. His trademark micro based style wasn't enough for him to get by any more. He struggled, in both individual leagues and team leagues, failing to make it past the round of 8 and losing to the new generation of zergs. Eventually he became desperate, relying on more and more extreme strategies: extreme cheeses or hyper greedy macro. Time after time players kept exploiting his predictable tendencies. After failing to make much of an impact even in HoTS, MarineKing decided to retire and try his luck at League of Legends.

However his foray into MOBAs was short lived and MarineKing eventually returned in time to play for PRIME in Proleague 2014. The brief pause seemed to have helped the former king of marines as he performed decently on return, defeating notables such as (Z)RorO, (Z)soO, (Z)TRUE, (Z)DRG and (T)FanTaSy. Individual results still eluded him though. He failed to make it back to GSL, and his play was still plagued by the his old inconsistencies.

However as autumn slowly turned to winter the old king seemed to have rediscovered his old powers. He tore through the qualifiers for the Hot6ix Cup, defeating (Z)Impact, (P)ParalyzE, (T)Maru and (Z)ByuL to qualify. However while his run was impressive few expected him to get out of a group consisting of INnoVation, herO and Stats. MarineKing proved the doubters wrong by smashing both (P)Stats and (P)herO with his trademark micro. Now a familiar face stands across him, blocking his path to the semi-final. His old rival PartinG.

The rascal toss

While MarineKing's career was plummeting, PartinG's was looking up. Through diligent practice and a whole lot of soul, PartinG managed to not only win the WCS World Championship of 2012 but also WCG. PartinG's stock had risen so much that he was able to negotiate a contract with SKT T1. This was big for PartinG as the telecom titan could reward his skill with far more money than StarTale ever could. It quickly showed as he started putting on weight.

As soon as the rules allowed, PartinG played in Proleague. He became a regular for his team with a soild 14-12 record and defeated notable names such as (P)Stork, (T)Flash, (P)Zest and (P)herO. His ceremonies earned him the nickname "rascal toss" and everyone anticipated his next move. But while his team league performances for SKT T1 were good, he suffered in individual leagues in both 2013 and 2014. He lost to Soulkey in the GSL, was eliminated from the OSL in a 3 zerg group and was bounced out of the next GSL by soO. It looked like the soul train had finally ran out of steam. To rub salt into the wound (Z)soO became a constant roadblock, like his former teammate (Z)Life.

On SKT T1 PartinG only won a single tournament, Red Bull Battle Grounds New York, by defeating reigning world champion (P)sOs. Unfortunately it was a far cry from the size and prestige of the WCS World Championship from a year before.

Ultimately PartinG decided to leave the telecom titan, citing a desire to travel the world again and interact with his fans. After a few weeks he would surprise everyone by joining yoe Flash Wolves. In the end it seems to have been the right call for PartinG, as he looked revitalized at Homestory Cup. He tore through his group stages, only losing 2 maps in total and not dropping a single set on his way to the finals. There he faced (T)Flash whom he defeated in a close, back and forth 4-3 series.

Even in his worst years PartinG has still managed to remain relevant: he always found a way to win at least one tournament, he was in the top 10 best performing players of proleague with a 19-11 record and he could still reach the RO16 of the GSL. PartinG however hasn't yet rediscovered his old consistency, suffering an early exit from the Hot6ix Cup. But by the miracle of bad scheduling, he managed to win his way back by defeating TY and Flash in the tiebreaker to fill Rain's vacant spot.

Conclusions

Now, at a crossroads in their careers and with two hard years behind them, MarineKing and PartinG face off once more. This time it is MarineKing who's stock is on the rise and PartinG suffering from consistency issues. Both have had to face different challenges to get here. PartinG had to fight to remain relevant on a team full of titans, while MarineKing struggled not only against the ever changing Starcraft landscape, but also against his own emotional nature. Through it all they clung on to their identities, their signature micro and their lovable personalities. This is a great opportunity for MarineKing as protoss seem to be struggling at the moment against his brand of aggressive terran. On the other hand PartinG's form in Korea has been questionable for the entire year.

Both MarineKing and PartinG play a very micro focused style. MarineKing has incorporated safer builds into his repertoire—he seems to favor 1 rax or reaper expands. Staying true to his old self MarineKing still likes to take risks by opening with greedy build. The sole focus on the early game is to facilitate a safe and smooth transition into the mid game were MarineKing's micro explodes. Against both Stats and herO it was on point; saving individual troops with quick pickups, displaying brilliant splits and, fluid bio movements -- allowing him to slip between forcefields and snipe colossus.

PartinG is also a big fan of micro focused builds, however he utilizes these tools differently. For PartinG the early game is an opportunity to get ahead via cleverly constructed builds. Blink pressures or all-ins, oracle openers, you name it PartinG does it. After a favorable early game the rascal toss will look to either finish the game via a powerful timing or ultimately go to his favorite tech, storm. PartinG's late game PvT is one of the scariest in the world. He invented his own templar style, and while it's a lot harder now to pull off, if he should get there then no place on the map will be safe.

Prediction

Given how erratic both player's performances have been lately, it feels extra difficult to predict. If this was MarineKing 3 months ago I wouldn't have given him any chances, however his TvP has looked ferocious lately. I can't really give PartinG an edge even though he won HSC X, due to the underwhelming way he lost in his group. Thus, I'll defer to my gut instinct here and give it to MarineKing, but barely.

MarineKing 3 - 2 PartinG


Soulkey vs Zest:
Out With the Old, In With the New

by XXTN

“Out with the Old and In with the New”
When KeSPA officially made the switch to SC2 in 2012, Rain led the initial charge by establishing KeSPA’s foothold in a new era. When Rain eventually cooled off, a new leader of KeSPA rose in the form of (Z)Soulkey who absolutely dominated 2013. But for some unforeseen reasons, Soulkey fell off the map in 2014 and left the KeSPA throne vacant, making room for a new champion. Dashing, confident, and ruthless, (P)KT.Zest rose to the occasion and became the new face of Korea’s foremost SC2 organization. Now for the 7th time this year, Zest must once again do battle against his predecessor. On each and every occasion, the KT ace has proved his mettle by thwarting the old king’s attempts at reclaiming his title. However, this is much more at stake this time around in the final big Korean tournament of the year. On one hand, Zest is looking to solidify his claim to “best player of 2014”, and he wants to be at the helm as the KeSPA ship sails into the new year. On the other hand, the Hot6ix Cup will be Soulkey’s last chance at salvaging a disappointing year and restoring his reputation. A great deal of personal pride and honor hangs in the balance in this clash between two of KeSPA’s most iconic champions.

The Exiled King
Once at the summit of the Starcraft world, Soulkey had distinguished himself as the best and most consistent player of 2013. Last year, the former #1 ranked player made top eight in every tournament he took part in and won a GSL and WCG. But just when he looked to be entering his prime, Soulkey’s results plummeted in 2014. Unlike his former teammates soO and INnoVation, Soulkey didn’t have the luxury of attending any international events, forcing him to compete in the cutthroat Korean leagues. While his 20 wins in Prolegaue were crucial to SKT’s runner-up finish, Soulkey’s greatest individual accomplishment was a quarterfinal finish in GSL S2. When his season 3 campaign was cut short by none other than Zest, Soulkey vanished in the month of September. To many people’s surprise and delight, Soulkey roared back in November by topping a stacked Ro16 group in the Hot6ix Cup. He crushed sKyHigh with standard macro games and sent God packing with two quick baneling busts. After slaying two talented terrans, Soulkey must now play his worst matchup against the world’s strongest protoss.

Victorious in only one of three matches in the past two months, Soulkey has been stumped by ZvP and is showing no signs of overcoming these woes anytime soon. He lost both series to Zest in the GSL S3 Ro16 and then suffered losses to MyuNgSik and herO in the WECG qualifiers. Though Soulkey can occasionally mix in some cheeses, he typically wants to reach late game in this matchup. However, he often has trouble reaching this stage because he struggles with fending off protoss timing attacks. Soulkey has shown that he is capable of defending against such attacks but just not on a consistent basis. But whenever his greedy play shines through, Soulkey can be unstoppable with aggressive SH sieges and WoL-esque queen/broodlord/infestor compositions. If he can keep his cool and scout thoroughly, then Soulkey has a decent shot at taking down KT’s ace.

The Hot6ix Cup is the last premiere Korean tournament left in 2014, and it’s Soulkey’s last chance for redemption. Once at the top of the SC2 world, Soulkey has fallen from grace but he is determined to pick himself up. Having parted ways with SKT, his performance at this event could also be pivotal to attracting a new team. He is determined to prove that he is a champion who’s here to stay and not just another programer whose time has come and gone. Soulkey can send that message and put an end to the jokes of him returning to BW by dethroning the current King of KeSPA.

KeSPA’s Champion
In the constantly changing landscape of the Starcraft scene, only a handful of players have managed to dominate the game and captivate its audience like KT.Zest. The breakout player of 2014 (arguably the best), Zest won GSL S1, the GSL Global Championships, and the KeSPA Cup. At certain times, he was surrounded by an aura of invincibility akin to the one historically associated with FlaSh. He dominated his opponents with flawlessly executed attacks and impeccable defenses. His control is on par with PartinG’s and he plays the standard protoss style better than Rain. But despite all of his previous successes, Zest has recently shown that he is not totally invulnerable - especially in PvZ. After being eliminated by soO in the GSL semifinals, Zest was defeated by Solar in the IEM San Jose qualifiers and by Life in the first round of Blizzcon. In response to these disappointments, Zest bounced back by taking out his frustration on the IeSF Open in which he went 13-0 to claim first place. So what has changed to cause this minor annoyance for the renowned PvZ expert?

Well, it would appear that his standard and predictable style is starting to get figured out. Zest once said that he executes his builds so well that his opponents are powerless to stop him even though know exactly what to expect. After his recent games, that may not be entirely true. This was made clear in his series against Life in which the Startale Zerg broke through a supposedly bulletproof playstyle. Great standard players like INnoVation and Rain faced similar situations in the past and were forced to adapt, and now Zest must do the same. He has demonstrated a willingness to evolve by incorporating strategies such as cannon rushes, proxy DTs, and even a wonky sentry drop with cannons that he used against Soulkey. With such sharp mechanics and instincts, Zest can become as dominant as Mvp by adding an element of unpredictability to his play. He needs to realize this if he hopes to remain KeSPA’s champion.

Zest may still be regarded as the best player of 2014 for now, but two consecutive early exits in Blizzcon and the Hot6ix Cup could cast serious doubt over that claim. The Hierophant has become the face of KeSPA but the story of Soulkey has shown that a king of the SC2 world can be cast down just as easily as he was brought up. There is much more than just personal pride at stake here for the poster boy of SC2; can Zest finish 2014 with his legacy still intact?

Overall Thoughts and Predictions
In 2014 alone, Zest and Soulkey have faced off on six separate occasions - 3 times in Proleague and 3 times in GSL - and the KT Protoss has walked away victorious each time. Zest currently leads 11-3 in the head-to-head but this rivalry is not as one-sided as the scores suggest. Soulkey has come just a few steps short of unseating Zest on several instances. Let’s not forget that Soulkey is an experienced champion who once erased an 0-3 deficit to steal a GSL away from a then-unstoppable INnoVation. Though the results may not clearly show it, these two players are on similar levels, and this match may very well go to whomever comes better prepared. If Soulkey can keep a level head and refrain from throwing away games on ill-advised 10 pools, then he has a decent chance at surviving the Kingslayer.

As for Zest, he must still keep faith in his standard phoenix -> colossus build; it’s his bread and butter and has worked wonders in his hands. In addition, this build provides all the tools he needs to survive against an opponent who is unafraid to unleash the cheddar in big matches. Still, Zest knows his standard is no longer as invulnerable as it once was, and so he will almost certainly come prepared with some new tricks. Soulkey’s time has come and gone, and that fact shall be solidified tonight. A new generation is upon us, and Zest will be the one to guide us into this new era.

Zest 3 - 1 Soulkey

Writers: Destructicon and XXTN.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Photos: GomTV, google and ThisIsGame.
Editor: lichter.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
December 02 2014 00:50 GMT
#2
i refuse to believe MKP is going to beat big boy
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 02 2014 00:52 GMT
#3
Same predictions as me, but much better writing

Should be two very good series. Hopefully they're not too one-sided.
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FoShao
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United States256 Posts
December 02 2014 00:53 GMT
#4
The picture link for this redirects to HSC X. Dat promotion lol
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United States17664 Posts
December 02 2014 00:55 GMT
#5
SO FUCKING HYPED!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 01:05:18
December 02 2014 01:05 GMT
#6
On December 02 2014 09:50 Jer99 wrote:
i refuse to believe MKP is going to beat big boy


MKP in HotS could never beat big boy. But MKC on the other hand.
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United States250 Posts
December 02 2014 01:06 GMT
#7
Eeeeek! I can't wait to watch/cast this
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December 02 2014 01:08 GMT
#8
On December 02 2014 09:53 FoShao wrote:
The picture link for this redirects to HSC X. Dat promotion lol


Fixed, sorry about this :D
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 02 2014 01:15 GMT
#9
The only thing I disagree with is the idea that PartinG is having consistency issues. Unless you mean "instead of always placing top 8 he now sometimes wins," but that's not really a consistency issue...

PartinG's coming off of runner-up to Solar and beater-up of Flash, with runner-up to Zest earlier this year. I don't think he's in danger of being devalued... maybe for the first time in a couple of years.
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Canada116 Posts
December 02 2014 01:17 GMT
#10
Isn't he called MVPMK now?
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December 02 2014 01:18 GMT
#11
Parting will crush mkp²
Zest will crush soulkey

Mkp² will probably go back to lol after this groupstage. Soulkey might consider it too tbh.
Parting then will cry after remembering he won't play in proleague but Mkp² is allowed to.
Zest will look awesome.
I think i pretty much nailed it
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
December 02 2014 01:20 GMT
#12
So many people predicting Marineking to win is ridiculous. Parting just won 2 tournaments. Marineking hasn't won anything since early 2012 and hasn't looked solid in over a year, other than for brief spurts and a ro16 group stage, where he only played 1 top player. It's possible that he could win, but everyone calling him the favourite is silly imo.
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Netherlands3111 Posts
December 02 2014 01:21 GMT
#13
On December 02 2014 10:15 pure.Wasted wrote:
The only thing I disagree with is the idea that PartinG is having consistency issues. Unless you mean "instead of always placing top 8 he now sometimes wins," but that's not really a consistency issue...

PartinG's coming off of runner-up to Solar and beater-up of Flash, with runner-up to Zest earlier this year. I don't think he's in danger of being devalued... maybe for the first time in a couple of years.

I agree, good point, lichter please clarify (thanks for write-up as well).
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Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
December 02 2014 01:30 GMT
#14
Parting is about as consistently good as one can be. Sure he's not winning every tournament but he's been in Code S something like 11 seasons in a row now?

Marineking on the other hand....
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United States13972 Posts
December 02 2014 01:42 GMT
#15
#BigBoi and KeSPA's Key
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United States33327 Posts
December 02 2014 01:42 GMT
#16
Justice for GSTL
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Sweden960 Posts
December 02 2014 01:50 GMT
#17
Great writeup by XXTN!
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Vietnam70 Posts
December 02 2014 01:55 GMT
#18
Don't know why but the link to liquidpedia on the front page is linked to HSC X cup...
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United States752 Posts
December 02 2014 02:02 GMT
#19
Marine King is back he will wipe the floor with Parting; well unless his new style he showed in his last group gets figured out.
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Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
December 02 2014 02:08 GMT
#20
On December 02 2014 10:30 DinoMight wrote:
Parting is about as consistently good as one can be. Sure he's not winning every tournament but he's been in Code S something like 11 seasons in a row now?

Marineking on the other hand....

12, PartinG got the Nestea Award
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France15952 Posts
December 02 2014 02:11 GMT
#21
UNPARALLELED HYPE!
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England1711 Posts
December 02 2014 02:14 GMT
#22
I'm voting for MKP here, not cos' I think he'll win (it'll be a really tough fight, no question, he has a decent chance, but parting in my eyes is the favorite). But cause parting had the audacity to beat Flash in homestory!!! How dare he!!

Heh.

Take with a pinch of salt please.
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Profile Joined June 2011
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December 02 2014 02:28 GMT
#23
On December 02 2014 10:50 Darkdwarf wrote:
Great writeup by XXTN!


tanks bro, means alot!
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Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 02:32:22
December 02 2014 02:31 GMT
#24
Hype! I'm torn on the Parting vs MK match. Parting is basically my favorite player but it is really exciting to see MK back in action.

Also the front page link to the liquipedia leads to HSC X.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 02 2014 02:50 GMT
#25
Super hyped! I might as well try to stay up for these! A minor gripe but
Unlike his former teammates soO and INnoVation,
Soulkey left when Innovation joined, just as the way it felt like it should be at least in my heart.
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United States9 Posts
December 02 2014 03:27 GMT
#26
On December 02 2014 09:50 Jer99 wrote:
i refuse to believe MKP is going to beat big boy


It's gonna happen m8. Just you wait, the Return of the King is here.
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Netherlands1385 Posts
December 02 2014 03:28 GMT
#27
Love the writeups, great work , everytime.
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Canada8304 Posts
December 02 2014 03:52 GMT
#28
I dunno if MKmvP can do it, but I'll be up early rooting for him anyway

MK(mv)P FIGHTING!!!!!
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Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 02 2014 03:58 GMT
#29
don't care who wins MK vs parting but i hope it's a ridiculous and cheesy 4-3
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France10239 Posts
December 02 2014 05:11 GMT
#30
Who is casting this?
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December 02 2014 05:11 GMT
#31
Here we go!

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Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
December 02 2014 06:33 GMT
#32
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.
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Profile Joined February 2014
Australia14 Posts
December 02 2014 06:45 GMT
#33
I think this match will decide the rest of MarineKing's career. If he wins, he's back and better than ever. But if he loses he continues to slump and eventually retires.
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United States470 Posts
December 02 2014 08:45 GMT
#34
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 02 2014 08:48 GMT
#35
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.


What's up with the dislike? How can you even dislike a player at all, unless they've shown absolutely terrible behavior or something?
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 02 2014 08:57 GMT
#36
Man, that's hard to call, but I do think PartinG can win this if he manage not to think about that GSTL
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THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
December 02 2014 09:07 GMT
#37
GOGOGO Foxer!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 09:22:18
December 02 2014 09:21 GMT
#38
that was intense, I actually feel like watching those games now, let's give it a go.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 02 2014 09:28 GMT
#39
On December 02 2014 10:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Parting will crush mkp²
Zest will crush soulkey

Mkp² will probably go back to lol after this groupstage. Soulkey might consider it too tbh.
Parting then will cry after remembering he won't play in proleague but Mkp² is allowed to.
Zest will look awesome.
I think i pretty much nailed it


No one can contest that.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
December 02 2014 14:28 GMT
#40
On December 02 2014 17:48 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.


What's up with the dislike? How can you even dislike a player at all, unless they've shown absolutely terrible behavior or something?

Flash plays for KT. That alone is enough.
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 02 2014 15:58 GMT
#41
Oh wow, spoiler free.. The looser of the parting mkp match, well I feel he got bitch slapped into the middle of last week. Had to be the wrong tactic to try vs that opponent.. So err often.

Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 02 2014 16:16 GMT
#42
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.

We'll see.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
December 02 2014 16:55 GMT
#43
On December 02 2014 23:28 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 17:48 Incognoto wrote:
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.


What's up with the dislike? How can you even dislike a player at all, unless they've shown absolutely terrible behavior or something?

Flash plays for KT. That alone is enough.

I usually dislike players if they beat my favorites too often :D
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 02 2014 19:27 GMT
#44
On December 02 2014 10:20 Yonnua wrote:
So many people predicting Marineking to win is ridiculous. Parting just won 2 tournaments. Marineking hasn't won anything since early 2012 and hasn't looked solid in over a year, other than for brief spurts and a ro16 group stage, where he only played 1 top player. It's possible that he could win, but everyone calling him the favourite is silly imo.

Nailed it!
Jaedong.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
December 02 2014 19:36 GMT
#45
On December 03 2014 01:55 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 23:28 BisuDagger wrote:
On December 02 2014 17:48 Incognoto wrote:
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.


What's up with the dislike? How can you even dislike a player at all, unless they've shown absolutely terrible behavior or something?

Flash plays for KT. That alone is enough.

I usually dislike players if they beat my favorites too often :D

I don't know that feeling.

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Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
December 02 2014 23:04 GMT
#46
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.


On December 02 2014 10:20 Yonnua wrote:
So many people predicting Marineking to win is ridiculous. Parting just won 2 tournaments. Marineking hasn't won anything since early 2012 and hasn't looked solid in over a year, other than for brief spurts and a ro16 group stage, where he only played 1 top player. It's possible that he could win, but everyone calling him the favourite is silly imo.


Do you guys want some Sriracha to help those words go down easier?
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18382 Posts
December 02 2014 23:07 GMT
#47
On December 03 2014 04:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 01:55 sparklyresidue wrote:
On December 02 2014 23:28 BisuDagger wrote:
On December 02 2014 17:48 Incognoto wrote:
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.


What's up with the dislike? How can you even dislike a player at all, unless they've shown absolutely terrible behavior or something?

Flash plays for KT. That alone is enough.

I usually dislike players if they beat my favorites too often :D

I don't know that feeling.

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What do you feel when you think of Shine?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 02 2014 23:16 GMT
#48
I still think Yonnua is right though.
MKP² isn't the favorite against anyone in a high profile tournament like gsl or in this case hot6ixcup.
That obviously doesn't mean that he can't win (as we all could see), but he just doesn't have ANY results this year, he was ok in proleague, but that's about it.
So yeah, he is the underdog against pretty much everyone at this point
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Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
December 02 2014 23:46 GMT
#49
Ok but he 3-0'd PartinG. If MK is a washed up hero who might make a good showing but no one expects to win anything, what does that make PartinG? Like Yonnua said, PartinG just won two tournaments and MK made him look like chopped liver cultured in a petri dish. Just sayin' - if MK isn't your favorite, you need to remember that this isn't a democracy, it's a monarchy, and there is only one King of Marines.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 02 2014 23:54 GMT
#50
On December 03 2014 08:46 Arghmyliver wrote:
Ok but he 3-0'd PartinG. If MK is a washed up hero who might make a good showing but no one expects to win anything, what does that make PartinG? Like Yonnua said, PartinG just won two tournaments and MK made him look like chopped liver cultured in a petri dish. Just sayin' - if MK isn't your favorite, you need to remember that this isn't a democracy, it's a monarchy, and there is only one King of Marines.

Haha we will see, i don't think MKP² will be relevant next year (as in gsl champ caliber), but maybe i am wrong
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
December 02 2014 23:57 GMT
#51
On December 03 2014 08:07 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 04:36 BisuDagger wrote:
On December 03 2014 01:55 sparklyresidue wrote:
On December 02 2014 23:28 BisuDagger wrote:
On December 02 2014 17:48 Incognoto wrote:
On December 02 2014 15:33 Circumstance wrote:
As much as I dislike the guy, Flash is far better than MVK right now. Parting should mop the floor with that League washout.


What's up with the dislike? How can you even dislike a player at all, unless they've shown absolutely terrible behavior or something?

Flash plays for KT. That alone is enough.

I usually dislike players if they beat my favorites too often :D

I don't know that feeling.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What do you feel when you think of Shine?

This is an sc2 thread. Bisu is undefeated against him in sc2.
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Genus.KhaoTiK
Profile Joined June 2014
United States9 Posts
December 03 2014 17:57 GMT
#52
On December 02 2014 10:20 Yonnua wrote:
So many people predicting Marineking to win is ridiculous. Parting just won 2 tournaments. Marineking hasn't won anything since early 2012 and hasn't looked solid in over a year, other than for brief spurts and a ro16 group stage, where he only played 1 top player. It's possible that he could win, but everyone calling him the favourite is silly imo.

This comment just got really hilarious after MarineKing taking it 3-0. MK(mv)P Fighting!
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