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swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
November 24 2014 05:18 GMT
#41
On November 24 2014 13:43 Exarl25 wrote:
Daybreak has actually managed to worm its way back into competitive play? This has to be a sick joke. Fuck tournaments that just mindlessly ape the ladder and fuck Blizzard for not realizing that is what happens and actually going through with this stupid dreampool bullshit. The shitty stagnant map pool of the last year of WoL does not get villified enough. We have already seen thousands of games too many on Daybreak.


You sound like you got blink all in'd every game.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51715 Posts
November 24 2014 05:22 GMT
#42
daybreak is sc2's equivalent of fighting spirit. boring to watch simply for the fact it has been overplayed to death.
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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
November 24 2014 05:25 GMT
#43
On November 24 2014 14:18 swag_bro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 13:43 Exarl25 wrote:
Daybreak has actually managed to worm its way back into competitive play? This has to be a sick joke. Fuck tournaments that just mindlessly ape the ladder and fuck Blizzard for not realizing that is what happens and actually going through with this stupid dreampool bullshit. The shitty stagnant map pool of the last year of WoL does not get villified enough. We have already seen thousands of games too many on Daybreak.


You sound like you got blink all in'd every game.


How are Daybreak and blink all-ins even connected in your mind?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 24 2014 05:26 GMT
#44
On November 24 2014 14:25 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 14:18 swag_bro wrote:
On November 24 2014 13:43 Exarl25 wrote:
Daybreak has actually managed to worm its way back into competitive play? This has to be a sick joke. Fuck tournaments that just mindlessly ape the ladder and fuck Blizzard for not realizing that is what happens and actually going through with this stupid dreampool bullshit. The shitty stagnant map pool of the last year of WoL does not get villified enough. We have already seen thousands of games too many on Daybreak.


You sound like you got blink all in'd every game.


How are Daybreak and blink all-ins even connected in your mind?


He's a troll, ignore him.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 24 2014 05:26 GMT
#45
On November 24 2014 13:43 Exarl25 wrote:
Daybreak has actually managed to worm its way back into competitive play? This has to be a sick joke. Fuck tournaments that just mindlessly ape the ladder and fuck Blizzard for not realizing that is what happens and actually going through with this stupid dreampool bullshit. The shitty stagnant map pool of the last year of WoL does not get villified enough. We have already seen thousands of games too many on Daybreak.

wtf are you talking about? two of the maps are NOT current ladder maps. that's two more than what is typical. so how are they "mindlessly aping the ladder"? they literally used ONE map from the current pool, which was probably done as a courtesy to players as daybreak is the most popular map in the dreampool and the players will have a decent time practicing for it on ladder if they wish

and if they didn't "mindlessly ape the ladder", by which i assume you mean using maps that aren't from the current or previous ladder pool, the players would hate it. totalbiscuit tried it already in some of his tournaments, typically the players (especially koreans) didn't take it very seriously and seemed to dislike playing on random maps. so blaming tournaments is also pretty stupid.
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TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
November 24 2014 05:27 GMT
#46
On November 24 2014 11:34 lichter wrote:
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On November 24 2014 11:30 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 24 2014 11:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Daybreak? Seriously? I don't like the set map order to begin with, much less having that as one of them!


It's funny. In its time, Daybreak wasn't really all that bad of a map.


It was T favored in TvZ (~56%?) but it was alright. I just wish they'd use this opportunity to use their own maps.

That was also at the beginning of hots. Daybreak was not exceptionally Terran favored compared to the other maps.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
November 24 2014 05:30 GMT
#47
On November 24 2014 14:26 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 13:43 Exarl25 wrote:
Daybreak has actually managed to worm its way back into competitive play? This has to be a sick joke. Fuck tournaments that just mindlessly ape the ladder and fuck Blizzard for not realizing that is what happens and actually going through with this stupid dreampool bullshit. The shitty stagnant map pool of the last year of WoL does not get villified enough. We have already seen thousands of games too many on Daybreak.

wtf are you talking about? two of the maps are NOT current ladder maps. that's two more than what is typical. so how are they "mindlessly aping the ladder"? they literally used ONE map from the current pool, which was probably done as a courtesy to players as daybreak is the most popular map in the dreampool and the players will have a decent time practicing for it on ladder if they wish

and if they didn't "mindlessly ape the ladder", by which i assume you mean using maps that aren't from the current or previous ladder pool, the players would hate it. totalbiscuit tried it already in some of his tournaments, typically the players (especially koreans) didn't take it very seriously and seemed to dislike playing on random maps. so blaming tournaments is also pretty stupid.


I am talking about the fact that they felt obligated to include a current ladder map at all. This is not a normal ladder map pool. If they used last seasons maps no one would bat an eye, they are still fresh enough that players would not be disadvantaged. And I did say Blizzard were stupid for creating this situation in the first place.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
November 24 2014 05:57 GMT
#48
It's probably an incentive for people to play ladder.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 24 2014 06:02 GMT
#49
Daybreak? Meh. Considering it's SpoTV I would have expected more originality if they wanted to use non-S3 maps
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 24 2014 06:12 GMT
#50
Lets hope that the actual league will use a completely new pool
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
November 24 2014 06:31 GMT
#51
On November 24 2014 14:22 GTR wrote:
daybreak is sc2's equivalent of fighting spirit. boring to watch simply for the fact it has been overplayed to death.

So....... You're saying dead game? Or alive game?
HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
November 24 2014 06:57 GMT
#52
On November 24 2014 13:42 lichter wrote:
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On November 24 2014 13:34 brickrd wrote:
daybreak such an ugly map visually


bel'shir beach #1 map of all time

Haaaaaaaaaands down! I wish they'd do seasonal changes for more maps.
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Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
November 24 2014 07:38 GMT
#53
Woohoo! Nice to see some more awesome action near the end of 2014!
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 07:40:14
November 24 2014 07:39 GMT
#54
On November 24 2014 15:31 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 14:22 GTR wrote:
daybreak is sc2's equivalent of fighting spirit. boring to watch simply for the fact it has been overplayed to death.

So....... You're saying dead game? Or alive game?


needs more fighting spirit

shine vs innovation on sc2 fighting spirit, never forget

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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
November 24 2014 07:48 GMT
#55
what is dead may never die

long live daybreak
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 08:22:32
November 24 2014 08:18 GMT
#56
On November 24 2014 11:01 Gamegene wrote:
eh. with all the crappy maps this season pretty sure daybreak is on most people's nonvetoes.

better than blink kingdom...

this always puzzled me but: shouldnt a completely flat map bring the best results considering balance evaluation?
After that proved the balance to be fine we can move on to more complicated maps. But developing maps for years and years just to get the winrate of a special race or tactics down to 50% does point out to the balance not being fine at all. And I am not pointing to a particular race right now, blink is just an example
On November 24 2014 16:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 15:31 geokilla wrote:
On November 24 2014 14:22 GTR wrote:
daybreak is sc2's equivalent of fighting spirit. boring to watch simply for the fact it has been overplayed to death.

So....... You're saying dead game? Or alive game?


needs more fighting spirit

shine vs innovation on sc2 fighting spirit, never forget

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDUCdLqhzjU

nothing wrong with moonglade and brandon, but somehow I miss the calm way those two casted
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 24 2014 09:15 GMT
#57
Daybreak

my sides
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 24 2014 09:17 GMT
#58
Day what?
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
November 24 2014 09:24 GMT
#59
Lol. Starcraft 2 tournaments in 2020:
Mappool?

1.Korhal Citadel
2.Meinhoff's desolation
3.Xel'Naga's Hideout
4.Daybreak
5.Farsight
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 09:50:27
November 24 2014 09:49 GMT
#60
No...Cloud Kingdom is so much better :///
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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