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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
November 13 2014 00:09 GMT
#81
During a time frame with a single overriding tournament, no less one that's single elimination bracket and doesn't even feature all the contenders for "best player", any ordered list of players by definition has some weaknesses.

For example, it's a little funny that Life takes the top spot entirely based on his placement in this single tournament, but finalist MMA is below two guys who lost in the ro16 and one guy who lost in the ro8. (disclaimer: I don't actually think MMA is overall better than Zest, soO, or Inno)

Also, Rain, Flash, or Cure are probably not all that much worse players than they were last month, but they're dropped entirely from the list (ok, maybe Cure was not so great).

Finally, as a big fan of Solar, it's supremely ironic that he actually went out and won his second $10k tournament (over some decent Korean opposition) but actually dropped places in the rankings.

I'm not knocking Zealously, I don't think I could have made a "perfect" list, or even a much better one. I just think a fairer list would be: "Best Overall Performances in the Last Month and a Half", or one that just groups players in tiers. "Power Rank" and "best ____ in the world"-statements are so much more hype, I know, I know.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
November 13 2014 00:10 GMT
#82
Life as nr 1 is awesome and very true, but I'd like to see Bomber alittle higher!
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 00:16:00
November 13 2014 00:15 GMT
#83
On November 13 2014 09:02 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 09:00 geokilla wrote:
The bias is strong in this article. Taeja was clearly better than Life this year overall as a player. Life wasn't talked about as much nor did he win nearly as much as Taeja did. The fact he slipped into Blizzcon was astonishing in my opinion.

I'm sure anyone would have been thrown off by having to stay up for an extra 5 hours to play 1 hr worth of gametime in tvt the night before. Can't really blame TaeJa for the venue's problems imo

Which is exactly what Zealously knocked on Innovation for. Because he "broke" during the 5 hours of "TvTvVenue" the day before while Taeja didn't.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
November 13 2014 00:22 GMT
#84
On November 13 2014 08:28 Zealously wrote:
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On November 13 2014 08:23 REyeM wrote:
So when should we expect pre-SPL power rank where ST/yFW will be ranked #1?


I'm thinking STFW at #3 right now unless something changes, but I'll consider your input!


Ooooh, I'll be looking forward to reading this list too (fucking can't wait for Proleague)

If I had to guess, KT would be the top spot, SKT has definitely lost some key players. It'll be hard to sort out the top 4 or 5 with KT, SKT, STFW, Jin Air, and maybe CJ.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 13 2014 00:35 GMT
#85
On November 13 2014 09:00 geokilla wrote:
The bias is strong in this article. Taeja was clearly better than Life this year overall as a player. Life wasn't talked about as much nor did he win nearly as much as Taeja did. The fact he slipped into Blizzcon was astonishing in my opinion.


"This year" doesn't matter for a rank that is mostly monthly, though.
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Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 00:39:09
November 13 2014 00:38 GMT
#86
Freaking loved the CJ.herO part.
Seriously :

how
can
this
still happen?

He must have his coach, his teammates all make fun of him when it happened at Katowice, yet here we are.
If i were him I'd be the most paranoid guy in the whole world when i play a PvP in a tournament.
I'm totally baffled.
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 13 2014 00:50 GMT
#87
On November 13 2014 07:07 ZeromuS wrote:
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On November 13 2014 07:05 Aeromi wrote:
WRITERS: ZEALOUSLY


:D


Its also kinda hard not to put one of the best performances in the most important tournament of the year in number one slot ^^


Took him like 4 days to go from Winning Blizzcon to losing to ByuL 2-0 in ZvZ
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
November 13 2014 00:56 GMT
#88
On November 13 2014 09:50 Pandemona wrote:
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On November 13 2014 07:07 ZeromuS wrote:
On November 13 2014 07:05 Aeromi wrote:
WRITERS: ZEALOUSLY


:D


Its also kinda hard not to put one of the best performances in the most important tournament of the year in number one slot ^^


Took him like 4 days to go from Winning Blizzcon to losing to ByuL 2-0 in ZvZ



hes probably too busy counting dem monies to care :D
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Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
November 13 2014 01:02 GMT
#89
On November 13 2014 08:30 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 08:25 Jazzman88 wrote:
On November 13 2014 07:17 Zealously wrote:
On November 13 2014 07:14 Yonnua wrote:
Why was Blizzcon weighted so heavily? There were only 6 WCS KR players at the tournament, so it's hardly representative of the highest levels of skill in the scene. Given that 4 of last months top 10 weren't even at the tournament, it just seems like a really contrived and unnecessary way to say Life is the best player in the world when he almost certainly isn't.


Same reason people count the Olympics as the most important event in so many sports even though you might find events with a higher level elsewhere. The tournament was so prestigious and so important to the players that they would pull no punches and spare no expenses to win their matches. Similar to The International for Dota2 and Worlds for LoL in that regard. Questioning the validity of the tournament's line-up after all three of this year's champions and the four-time finalist were all taken out by players either in Code B or not playing in the GSL seems more funky than anything.


But Zealously, Rain is actually the best player in the world, Artosis said so, and it's just not fair that WCS KR points don't count for more than winning the most stacked tournament of the year by beating arguably 3 of the top 5 players on the planet.

Are you really calling Blizzcon the most stacked tournament of the year?



With all of the GSL finalists from this year there? With Taeja (11 premier titles) there? Bomber fresh off a title? MMA ditto? Absolutely.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
November 13 2014 01:51 GMT
#90
sOs got shafted last year. You guys skipped the PR right after Blizzcon so he never got his #1

I bet he's still upset about that.
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
November 13 2014 02:00 GMT
#91
Life deserve the #1..
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 13 2014 02:15 GMT
#92
MMA Number 6 = Flawed Power Rank
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 13 2014 02:17 GMT
#93
Taeja #2?

#LIQUIDBIAS
#didntmakethefinals
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
November 13 2014 02:17 GMT
#94
On November 13 2014 07:06 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 07:05 Aeromi wrote:
WRITERS: ZEALOUSLY


:D


When I took over the Power Rank this was the plan all along


Is English your first language Zealously?
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 13 2014 02:23 GMT
#95
On November 13 2014 11:17 Bagration wrote:
Taeja #2?

#LIQUIDBIAS
#didntmakethefinals

He beat Artosis' Blizzcon champ
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2975 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 02:27:19
November 13 2014 02:26 GMT
#96
Let's just rename this Flavor of the Month ranking. Because really in the end, it's all it is. Oh and I personally think Taeja deserves to be high ranked than Life regardless if it wasn't so FotM.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
November 13 2014 02:32 GMT
#97
I feel like MMA's rank is a bi low, considering he not only got second at the biggest event of the year, but took out the current WCS AM Champion, The last WCS Europe Champion (Besides MMA himself, ofcourse) and the WCS KRR Season 2 Champion on the way. I dont mind Life being first, even though I dislike him, he earned it, but MMA should definitely be higher.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 13 2014 02:51 GMT
#98
Blizzcon is being weighed too heavily as expected. A bo5, or a few bo5s even at the most prestigious tournament of the year is still only a bo5.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 13 2014 03:01 GMT
#99
Man as expected people are getting all uppity about the Power Rank. Congrats to Life, he deserves the spot as world champion! Overall good rank Zealously.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19399 Posts
November 13 2014 03:02 GMT
#100
We all know life at #1 is bias. Otherwise, a decent list.
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