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Power Rank - Post-Blizzcon Edition - Page 7

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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 13 2014 07:39 GMT
#121
On November 13 2014 14:55 Shellshock wrote:
The finals weren't broadcasted so -10 prestige


it had a LR thread and live reports though. still more prestige than most foreigner only tournaments
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 08:04:02
November 13 2014 07:39 GMT
#122
Joke list. Life is the Sniper of Blizzcon champions
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 13 2014 08:00 GMT
#123
On November 13 2014 16:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Joke list. Life is the Sniper if Blizzcon champions

I am not quite sure what you wanna imply with that
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cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 13 2014 08:05 GMT
#124
classic is better than hero? no way. i would say their pvp is equal but hero is miles ahead in terms of pvz and pvt.
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 13 2014 08:11 GMT
#125
On November 13 2014 10:02 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 08:30 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 13 2014 08:25 Jazzman88 wrote:
On November 13 2014 07:17 Zealously wrote:
On November 13 2014 07:14 Yonnua wrote:
Why was Blizzcon weighted so heavily? There were only 6 WCS KR players at the tournament, so it's hardly representative of the highest levels of skill in the scene. Given that 4 of last months top 10 weren't even at the tournament, it just seems like a really contrived and unnecessary way to say Life is the best player in the world when he almost certainly isn't.


Same reason people count the Olympics as the most important event in so many sports even though you might find events with a higher level elsewhere. The tournament was so prestigious and so important to the players that they would pull no punches and spare no expenses to win their matches. Similar to The International for Dota2 and Worlds for LoL in that regard. Questioning the validity of the tournament's line-up after all three of this year's champions and the four-time finalist were all taken out by players either in Code B or not playing in the GSL seems more funky than anything.


But Zealously, Rain is actually the best player in the world, Artosis said so, and it's just not fair that WCS KR points don't count for more than winning the most stacked tournament of the year by beating arguably 3 of the top 5 players on the planet.

Are you really calling Blizzcon the most stacked tournament of the year?



With all of the GSL finalists from this year there? With Taeja (11 premier titles) there? Bomber fresh off a title? MMA ditto? Absolutely.

not quite. life only played 2 code S level players in Zest and Taeja. In order to win gsl , you will at least beat 4 of them. Winning gsl is still a lot harder than winning blizzcon
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
November 13 2014 08:12 GMT
#126
Congrats Life!
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 08:17:57
November 13 2014 08:16 GMT
#127
Very nice list and a great read. Poor herO,cant help it but feel bad about that guy if he had scouted the right direction he would had beaten Classic then he would probably had beaten MMA and we would have a fantastic finals vs life. Whyyyyy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 08:23:00
November 13 2014 08:22 GMT
#128
Rain not being on this list is questionable at the very least. He's done nothing but win and qualify for everything since leaving SKT

Also if only KeSPA liked their players ;o
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 13 2014 08:27 GMT
#129
Look at Life...what a boss!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
November 13 2014 08:41 GMT
#130
Taeja is the most complete package you can get without getting past the ro4 in a WCS tournament. He's a pretty comfortable choice for #2. Otherwise, I'd move Bomber up to #7 and MMA up one or two spots. Zest, soO, or Inno can make some room since they didn't get past ro16 or ro8. Bomber and Classic are no pushovers; both won WCS this year, which seems to matter quite a bit in Classic's case. I feel like the question was asked, "Classic or herO?" and Classic won out because of a GSL trophy.

I don't know much about Solar, other than he's on some wild tear recently, but he wasn't at Blizzcon at all. He'd be the one I move down the most to #10 to make room for Bomber at #7.

Life #1 is kind of obligatory and definitely expected. Life playing his best was once considered best in world, and he appears near enough that level, plus he's holding the trophy. He's got more competition now and probably won't hold the rank long; we'll see.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 08:45:34
November 13 2014 08:43 GMT
#131
On November 13 2014 17:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Rain not being on this list is questionable at the very least. He's done nothing but win and qualify for everything since leaving SKT

Also if only KeSPA liked their players ;o


Yeah but last offline event rain participated in was KeSPA cup and he got severly bashed by... Bomber.

Power rank should have 25 players it would be less heated as a discussion

But I like heated pointless discussios that just confront personnal opinion with no rationnality whatsoever, so here I go :

- If power rank is based on the chance a player has to win a big worldwide tournament with all the best player participating, I don't think Life should be number one. We already knew he could perform incredibly, Blizzcon just confirmed it (I had votred for him in the "underdog pool") but is he stable? will he we win again? will he establish a new reign? not sure at all. It's not the 2012 Life yet, I hope he will come back at his top, but at this point he still has to improve.

He's clearly not the dominating #1 player in the world. He's top 5 that's all, and that's already very good compared to what he was like 2 monthes ago

- At the moment, Solar > soO, easily. soO is just on a terribly slipery slope since DH final (against Solar...) he's clearly not as good as he was 3 monthes ago, got 3 major defeats where he seemed just helpless (Solar, INno, Taeja). On the other hand solar is on a ascending curve, he gets better and better, beats all the opponents that are thrown at him. Solar is clearly going to be a serious contender for the unofficial best zerg of 2015.

As of today, soO is behind Life and Solar, and depending on his run at the hot6 cup, he might soon not even be worth being in the top ten. As of today, not a lot of people would bet much on soO chance to win a big tournament... Hope he can recover and rebuild his mental strength in 2015.

Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 13 2014 08:48 GMT
#132
On November 13 2014 17:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
Taeja is the most complete package you can get without getting past the ro4 in a WCS tournament. He's a pretty comfortable choice for #2. Otherwise, I'd move Bomber up to #7 and MMA up one or two spots. Zest, soO, or Inno can make some room since they didn't get past ro16 or ro8. Bomber and Classic are no pushovers; both won WCS this year, which seems to matter quite a bit in Classic's case. I feel like the question was asked, "Classic or herO?" and Classic won out because of a GSL trophy.

Classic is above herO because herO doesn't know what scouting is
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 13 2014 08:59 GMT
#133
On November 13 2014 17:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 17:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
Taeja is the most complete package you can get without getting past the ro4 in a WCS tournament. He's a pretty comfortable choice for #2. Otherwise, I'd move Bomber up to #7 and MMA up one or two spots. Zest, soO, or Inno can make some room since they didn't get past ro16 or ro8. Bomber and Classic are no pushovers; both won WCS this year, which seems to matter quite a bit in Classic's case. I feel like the question was asked, "Classic or herO?" and Classic won out because of a GSL trophy.

Classic is above herO because herO doesn't know what scouting is

I was at work watching this and started yelling at my monitor.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 09:11:05
November 13 2014 09:10 GMT
#134
On November 13 2014 09:38 Quateras wrote:
Freaking loved the CJ.herO part.
Seriously :

how
can
this
still happen?

He must have his coach, his teammates all make fun of him when it happened at Katowice, yet here we are.
If i were him I'd be the most paranoid guy in the whole world when i play a PvP in a tournament.
I'm totally baffled.


Proxy 2 gate are to herO what finals are to soO.

On November 13 2014 17:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 17:41 Ansinjunger wrote:
Taeja is the most complete package you can get without getting past the ro4 in a WCS tournament. He's a pretty comfortable choice for #2. Otherwise, I'd move Bomber up to #7 and MMA up one or two spots. Zest, soO, or Inno can make some room since they didn't get past ro16 or ro8. Bomber and Classic are no pushovers; both won WCS this year, which seems to matter quite a bit in Classic's case. I feel like the question was asked, "Classic or herO?" and Classic won out because of a GSL trophy.

Classic is above herO because herO doesn't know what scouting is


Lol. "Hey herO, back to the basics with you".
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BernabusStarcraft2
Profile Joined September 2012
Scotland112 Posts
November 13 2014 09:15 GMT
#135
No Rain. Worst list ever !
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
November 13 2014 09:20 GMT
#136
Is everyone saying about Rain in on a joke or something? I don't get it.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 09:21:40
November 13 2014 09:21 GMT
#137
Whilst I don't agree completely neither with this Power Rank nor with the Aligulac current top 10, both have Life as the first place so somehow this can't be completely wrong.

Edit: I am not sure if this is a correct English sentence, shame on me.
Have a nice day!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 09:29:21
November 13 2014 09:28 GMT
#138
On November 13 2014 18:21 TrumpetWilli wrote:
Whilst I don't agree completely neither with this Power Rank nor with the Aligulac current top 10, both have Life as the first place so somehow this can't be completely wrong.

Edit: I am not sure if this is a correct English sentence, shame on me.


Why don't you agree on Aligulac top 10? It's not a power rank, it's just maths (And just as for the PR, it doesn't predict who will win against whom, it just does probabilities).
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 13 2014 10:00 GMT
#139
soO
Prev: 2
High: 2

classic.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 13 2014 10:30 GMT
#140
On November 13 2014 17:11 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 10:02 Jazzman88 wrote:
On November 13 2014 08:30 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 13 2014 08:25 Jazzman88 wrote:
On November 13 2014 07:17 Zealously wrote:
On November 13 2014 07:14 Yonnua wrote:
Why was Blizzcon weighted so heavily? There were only 6 WCS KR players at the tournament, so it's hardly representative of the highest levels of skill in the scene. Given that 4 of last months top 10 weren't even at the tournament, it just seems like a really contrived and unnecessary way to say Life is the best player in the world when he almost certainly isn't.


Same reason people count the Olympics as the most important event in so many sports even though you might find events with a higher level elsewhere. The tournament was so prestigious and so important to the players that they would pull no punches and spare no expenses to win their matches. Similar to The International for Dota2 and Worlds for LoL in that regard. Questioning the validity of the tournament's line-up after all three of this year's champions and the four-time finalist were all taken out by players either in Code B or not playing in the GSL seems more funky than anything.


But Zealously, Rain is actually the best player in the world, Artosis said so, and it's just not fair that WCS KR points don't count for more than winning the most stacked tournament of the year by beating arguably 3 of the top 5 players on the planet.

Are you really calling Blizzcon the most stacked tournament of the year?



With all of the GSL finalists from this year there? With Taeja (11 premier titles) there? Bomber fresh off a title? MMA ditto? Absolutely.

not quite. life only played 2 code S level players in Zest and Taeja. In order to win gsl , you will at least beat 4 of them. Winning gsl is still a lot harder than winning blizzcon


unless its a GSL with half of the top players being oversea, like this year. And Blizzcon was basically the tournament were those 2 divided regions that seldom played against each other really clashed, so Code S players could have proven that Code S actually meant they are the best.
But it doesn't matter really, since there is a region lock next year. And GSL will be back in full.
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