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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 03 2014 00:31 GMT
#81
On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament.


Bomber is #4 because he actually has results against those GSL players while Polt and MC have not had good results in quite a while.
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
October 03 2014 00:32 GMT
#82
On October 03 2014 07:59 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament.

Yeah i was surprised that MC was not top 4/5 :/
I wonder if those loses against Hyun, First, Stardust, Patience, SpaceMarine or Targa have any link with him not being top10 though :/
I mean, he won against CPU, Maddelisk, Stahlbolzen, Nightend and Namshar !

Stahlbolzen would be on my Top 10 list, but oh well
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 03 2014 00:33 GMT
#83
On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament.

Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed.


It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents.

Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently.
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
October 03 2014 00:41 GMT
#84
special mentions to Life and Maru?
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 00:44:56
October 03 2014 00:44 GMT
#85
On October 03 2014 09:30 Greenei wrote:
My powerrank without looking:

1. Zest
2. soO
3. Innovation
4. Bomber
5. her0
6. Cure
7. Solar
8. Rain
9. Flash
10. Stats


I guess I approve of OP's Power Rank. It will probably be less controversial than the last one, because it is not bad like the last one was.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 03 2014 00:50 GMT
#86
On October 03 2014 09:33 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:
On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament.

Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed.


It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents.

Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently.

Korea is the hardest region, if you really wanna deny that, gl !
Also: the last two "foreign" premier tournaments where you had a really competitive lineup had Kespa vs Kespa (aka korean koreans ^^) finals.

Let's be real for a moment
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
October 03 2014 00:55 GMT
#87
On October 03 2014 09:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 09:33 FeyFey wrote:
On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:
On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament.

Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed.


It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents.

Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently.

Korea is the hardest region, if you really wanna deny that, gl !
Also: the last two "foreign" premier tournaments where you had a really competitive lineup had Kespa vs Kespa (aka korean koreans ^^) finals.

Let's be real for a moment


Bomber vs Cure though.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 03 2014 00:56 GMT
#88
Glad Zest is #1. If there's one word to describe him, it's consistency.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 03 2014 01:14 GMT
#89
On October 03 2014 09:55 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 09:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 03 2014 09:33 FeyFey wrote:
On October 03 2014 07:58 Walnuts wrote:
On October 03 2014 07:50 FlyingBeer wrote:
Rain, Flash, Innovation, and Cure but no Polt or MC? Really? This list is way too heavily biased by GSL Korea. Any top pro can randomly have a strong run in a single tournament.

Which is why neither Polt nor MC are on the list- neither of them are as good as the GSL players you listed.


It is true though that the Power Ranks are heavily biased towards stuff that happens in Korea, while usually they don't do any better oversea. PR is based on assuming B-Teamers are being better then Foreigners. Since those that get slaughtered by the top Koreans usually never meet, to see who really has the stronger opponents.

Its fun that way though, since it means that someone that doesn't attend GSL or ProLeague and makes it into the Power Rank was a true badass that month. While the rest is a good indication of who does well in Korea currently.

Korea is the hardest region, if you really wanna deny that, gl !
Also: the last two "foreign" premier tournaments where you had a really competitive lineup had Kespa vs Kespa (aka korean koreans ^^) finals.

Let's be real for a moment


Bomber vs Cure though.

Well i didn't count redbull cause there were only 8 players.
But even then that would be one out of three (and still a "korean korean" in the final)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
October 03 2014 01:17 GMT
#90
INno and Taea's highs are both 1.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
October 03 2014 01:19 GMT
#91
watcha gonna do when Hukamania runs wild on you brother???

The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2634 Posts
October 03 2014 01:43 GMT
#92
Poor soO always second.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
October 03 2014 01:52 GMT
#93
I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
October 03 2014 02:06 GMT
#94
OHH YEAH BOMBER!

Bomber's high is #1 btw. It was the power rank right after season 2 finals last year.
Favorite Players: Bomber | Maru | Life | PartinG | InnoVation | Bbyong
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 03 2014 02:07 GMT
#95
I actually laughed heartily when I saw soO's name at #2. Poor soO, never #1
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
October 03 2014 02:31 GMT
#96
On October 03 2014 10:52 Yonnua wrote:
I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better.


Honestly I think Cure is too high ranked. He has 3 bo3 losses in a row to protosses outside top 10. I would penalize that much higher than OP did, and would put Her0 above both Solar, Cure and Flash.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 03 2014 02:35 GMT
#97
On October 03 2014 11:31 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 10:52 Yonnua wrote:
I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better.


Honestly I think Cure is too high ranked. He has 3 bo3 losses in a row to protosses outside top 10. I would penalize that much higher than OP did, and would put Her0 above both Solar, Cure and Flash.


Don't you mean the superior herO, killer of Flash?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 02:39:05
October 03 2014 02:37 GMT
#98
why would you put herO over Solar? herO got a 2nd place in a tournament and then lost to Solar in the tournament Solar won. Solar made Ro8 GSL. I don't think it's unreasonable for Solar to be ahead of herO

the one tournament herO got far in he was invited to based off results well before this month. Solar lost in the final of the qualifier by 1 map
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 02:49:13
October 03 2014 02:46 GMT
#99
On October 03 2014 09:56 Dreamer.T wrote:
Glad Zest is #1. If there's one word to describe him, it's consistency.


I dont mean to be a complete ass by starting an argument, but Zest was only consistent in 2014 (NEVER HEARD OF HIM IN 2012-2013 when other KeSPA ppl like Rain, Soulkey, INnoVation Dear have been winning things).

yes and I know Zest has beaten all the players I listed above, but still, his results last year and 2012, were not even 'inconsistent', he just wasnt worth mentioning in 2012 and 2013
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
October 03 2014 02:47 GMT
#100
On October 03 2014 11:31 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 10:52 Yonnua wrote:
I don't really get why Solar beats Cure. Cure comes second place in a foreign event (which he had to qualify for) vs solar coming first in a less stacked foreign event (which he just entered in r2). Meanwhile Cure is GSL Semifinal barely missing out to Innovation after smashing Solar in the QFs. Surely GSL should be rated higher than a foreign event? Also, just in terms of how they've been playing, Cure's looked much better.


Honestly I think Cure is too high ranked. He has 3 bo3 losses in a row to protosses outside top 10. I would penalize that much higher than OP did, and would put Her0 above both Solar, Cure and Flash.


Solar lost 2-1 to a player I've never even heard of called "Gamja" in the RBBG qualifiers that Cure smashed his way though. There's no logic to Solar > Cure.
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