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MASTERCAKES
United States127 Posts
On September 02 2014 07:44 Cricketer12 wrote: Wrong he beat 2 and 3 and almost 4, maru was first not hero, but I know where you are comin from with this I'm not wrong, Maru is only first according to TL ranks that include playoffs. According to the official Kespa ranks herO and SoS are 1 and 2. Which is why they got the Kespa Cup invites. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 02 2014 07:49 [F_]aths wrote: These three are top-3, while the order is arguable. Rain is very, very good. But is he the best? I think it comes down to one thing. With all of the other players in power rank, when I look at it, I immediately come up with at least 1 other player in the rank that would probably be (big) favourite if they played each other. There is no one in the world though, not a single player, who would be going to play against Rain and I would say 'yeah, he is definitely favourite'. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On September 02 2014 07:42 Cricketer12 wrote: NO HUK f*** you man, no seriously, HuK prob better than major right now I think, major only good cause his TvT OP and he kills violet and polt The original had 10. Dayshi 9. Welmu 8. Huk 7. Jim 6. Vortix | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1417 Posts
On September 02 2014 07:53 Ammanas wrote: I think it comes down to one thing. With all of the other players in power rank, when I look at it, I immediately come up with at least 1 other player in the rank that would probably be (big) favourite if they played each other. There is no one in the world though, not a single player, who would be going to play against Rain and I would say 'yeah, he is definitely favourite'. i can come up with several. flash, taeja, zest, maru. even players like life or snute have a very realistic shot at taking out rain. i don't think he is the world's best palyer atm. | ||
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DongFeast420
United States20 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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badeanden
Norway56 Posts
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
On September 02 2014 07:39 Zealously wrote: No, these will be coming out on the 1st every month unless there is a tournament that concludes on the 2nd. =D Seems pretty spot on imo, only Polt seems a little high to me. And I think sOs and TRUE ought to at least be on the CBNC list. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 02 2014 07:39 Zealously wrote: No, these will be coming out on the 1st every month unless there is a tournament that concludes on the 2nd. Does this mean we get one right before blizzcon? | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:16 Tanzklaue wrote: i can come up with several. flash, taeja, zest, maru. even players like life or snute have a very realistic shot at taking out rain. i don't think he is the world's best palyer atm. What? Are you serious? I would say that of the players you listed only flash and zest have a real shot at taking down rain but adding life and snute to the list is comical at best. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:12 Darkhorse wrote: The original had 10. Dayshi 9. Welmu 8. Huk 7. Jim 6. Vortix thats quite ok. just vortix over major and sen behind both of them. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:27 Caihead wrote: Wasn't aware Rain was doing so well. He was kinds slumping a bit during GSL season 2, getting knocked out in his group 1-4. However in ProLeauge he has been doing really really well, especially in playoffs, winning every game he played in. He is also 4-1 in ace matches so you can see he has the nerves when it counts. Season 3 in GSL he has been doing better again, he got 4-0 in his Code A group, beating Impact and Cure, and 4-1 in Code S, beating Rogue 2-0 and Zest 2-1. And he got into KeSPA cup through one of the stronger qualifiers, going 8-2 in maps. When he slumped, it seemed like he couldn't play all that way in the newer style of PvP, but right now he has argueably the best PvP in the world. If you asked me a few weeks ago as to what is his weakest MU, I probably would have said PvZ, to me it didn't look as dominant and as good as his other 2 MUs, however he went 8-2 in the KeSPA qualifier, only beating Zergs and he handled basically every Zerg opponent (with the exception of some of the crazy stuff life threw against him, eventhough there too he looked like most of the time he knew what to do) really really well and dominated them easily. His PvT as you would have guessed is really stable and well... just good :D His results are pretty impressiv recently, however you also have to look at the games he played not only at the outcome, he ALWAYS plays macro and just dominates his opponents through better mechanics and better desicion making. Like he does normal standard stuff (if playing long macro games is what you call normal play for Protoss lol), but just does it soo good that his opponents seem helpless against it. So while I LOVE Flash, and have been extremely impressed with him ( I would have personally put him at either second or first place but I can understand ranking Maru higher them him... somewhat atleast), ranking Rain as first place instead totally makes sense to me, not only his results but also his games especially have really really impressed me :D Sorry, that wasn't alll directed at you, but I have also read all the previous pages with quite a few people questioning Rain as number 1, and because I was too lazy to quote all of them, I just dumped it all in here  | ||
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`sawyer
210 Posts
Since the release of HotS on international tournaments not including WCS(EU,KR,US) ones that had 40000$ prize pool or more players on KeSPA teams had won 8/11. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i57.tinypic.com/30u9sbc.png) | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2444 Posts
His solid style indeed wipes out lesser players with ease, but players of equal caliber hard counter him so bad. That's why he likely won't ever win another GSL/OSL. Meanwhile Flash has an 80% win rate and a winning record against literally every player he's played since the SPL Finals. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 02 2014 09:07 `sawyer wrote: Here is a fun fact: Since the release of HotS on international tournaments not including WCS(EU,KR,US) ones that had 40000$ prize pool or more players on KeSPA teams had won 8/11. + Show Spoiler + The highly specific nature of your categories to present your results in the best possible light undermine whatever point you are trying to make. Also why are you bringing this up in this thread? Not every thread has to further the stupid "KeSPA is the best" debate. Also you are ignoring your own requirements. How in the world are you counting the Hot6ix Cup as an international tournament. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 02 2014 07:53 Ammanas wrote: I think it comes down to one thing. With all of the other players in power rank, when I look at it, I immediately come up with at least 1 other player in the rank that would probably be (big) favourite if they played each other. There is no one in the world though, not a single player, who would be going to play against Rain and I would say 'yeah, he is definitely favourite'. You could say that about Flash, Taeja, and possibly even Bogus. Flash is having some sick momentum atm, and the latter two are just consistently strong players that can be formidable against any race and any opponent. I didn't include any SKT players since Zest apparently is invulnerable against all of them except Rain (sounds silly but his stats against them are ridiculous) and Maru still can't seem to get the Soulkey off his back (except that one time in the ro8). | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Tenhou
1052 Posts
On September 02 2014 09:28 Dodgin wrote: As much as Flash is owning right now I have to think that Rain would be the favorite if they played a live bo5, but I think Rain has always had his number. lol I remember Best always have Flash's number in BW, then it magically disappears. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On September 02 2014 09:55 Tenhou wrote: lol I remember Best always have Flash's number in BW, then it magically disappears. That's the problem with Flash, the second you call him he also has your number :0 | ||
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