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Axiom announces GOG.com as a new sponsor - Page 4

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 01 2014 23:59 GMT
#61
Awesome. I've always used GOG for old games and this sponsorship'll make me all the happier for it.
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
August 02 2014 00:15 GMT
#62
Congrats Axiom!!
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 02 2014 00:31 GMT
#63
Awesome stuff. I'm a fan of GOG, have a few from them already :D
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28637 Posts
August 02 2014 00:34 GMT
#64
yeah that is a perfect sponsor. I've used gog to pay for several games I pirated and played the shit out of as a broke kid, it's a great site.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-02 00:53:36
August 02 2014 00:46 GMT
#65
On August 02 2014 08:12 EJK wrote:
so this website...sells old games that are DRM (so free) for monies?


Wut. Not having any DRM doesn't mean the game is free, it just means it doesn't have crap like Uplay or always-online requirements.

So you're saying for a mid size team you're better off providing a house than not having a house but having livable (able to live on ones own) wages? That's actually really interesting.

At least in your experience of course.


The majority of Korean players are not paid a salary. Most of those that are happen to be on foreign teams. The top KeSPA koreans are paid salary, those considered B-teamers are not. What remains of the ex-eSF teams are for the most part also not paying salaries. Most teams are also not providing many flights for players due to the expense, some Koreans have paid for their own flights to go to events. I don't know whether or not teams are also taking prize money, I'd imagine not but it's not something I've been able to get anyone to talk about. I do know that some foreign teams take a small percentage of prize money.

For the last couple of years we've taken no prize money from players, paid for the house and all the expenses that come with that, catering, flights and player salaries. This has resulted in the team being hugely expensive to run. The experiment was to see whether it was possible to make that work. I still think it is but as with any startup, the money sunk into it to bring it into the black has been significant and we're not in the black right now, we're still running deep in the red.

I'd say with the sponsorship we have now. If we paid no salary and took a small cut of prizemoney, we could sustain a team of 8 players, pay for the house and all related expenses (since that's the capacity of the house without getting uncomfortable) and fly 1-2 players to an international event every month. We didn't want to be like that. Unfortunately the scene shrank since we started rather than grew so the challenge of breaking even while still treating our players in the way we feel they should be treated is now much more difficult.

Hopefully that should give you some idea of the reality of this whole thing.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 02 2014 00:52 GMT
#66
Huh, never heard of it, but i'll be checking it out.
n.Die_Jaedong
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 02 2014 01:13 GMT
#67
On August 02 2014 09:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 08:12 EJK wrote:
so this website...sells old games that are DRM (so free) for monies?


Wut. Not having any DRM doesn't mean the game is free, it just means it doesn't have crap like Uplay or always-online requirements.

Show nested quote +
So you're saying for a mid size team you're better off providing a house than not having a house but having livable (able to live on ones own) wages? That's actually really interesting.

At least in your experience of course.


The majority of Korean players are not paid a salary. Most of those that are happen to be on foreign teams. The top KeSPA koreans are paid salary, those considered B-teamers are not. What remains of the ex-eSF teams are for the most part also not paying salaries. Most teams are also not providing many flights for players due to the expense, some Koreans have paid for their own flights to go to events. I don't know whether or not teams are also taking prize money, I'd imagine not but it's not something I've been able to get anyone to talk about. I do know that some foreign teams take a small percentage of prize money.

For the last couple of years we've taken no prize money from players, paid for the house and all the expenses that come with that, catering, flights and player salaries. This has resulted in the team being hugely expensive to run. The experiment was to see whether it was possible to make that work. I still think it is but as with any startup, the money sunk into it to bring it into the black has been significant and we're not in the black right now, we're still running deep in the red.

I'd say with the sponsorship we have now. If we paid no salary and took a small cut of prizemoney, we could sustain a team of 8 players, pay for the house and all related expenses (since that's the capacity of the house without getting uncomfortable) and fly 1-2 players to an international event every month. We didn't want to be like that. Unfortunately the scene shrank since we started rather than grew so the challenge of breaking even while still treating our players in the way we feel they should be treated is now much more difficult.

Hopefully that should give you some idea of the reality of this whole thing.


Thanks for the info, always a pleasure learning more about the scene
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
August 02 2014 01:31 GMT
#68
Wow, nice! Gog is fucking awesome, hell I even think they are better than Steam for older PC games because they usually have instructions and tweaks so you can run it on modern systems easier.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
August 02 2014 02:24 GMT
#69
Nice, i always buy from GOG when given the choice anyway. Steam is kinda arse.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
August 02 2014 03:12 GMT
#70
GOG is awesome ^^
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
August 02 2014 07:40 GMT
#71
GOG is the shit. I'm really happy to see them sponsoring an awesome team like Axiom as well.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
meshfusion
Profile Joined June 2014
Russian Federation232 Posts
August 02 2014 07:57 GMT
#72
I used gog tons of times before. Glad to hear
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 02 2014 09:49 GMT
#73
Wow this is great news. GoG is such a great company to represent, they trully respect gamers.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
August 02 2014 10:00 GMT
#74
O wow. Polish sponsor
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3418 Posts
August 02 2014 10:04 GMT
#75
Great news. Best sponsor ever. I love GOG so much.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 02 2014 10:56 GMT
#76
On August 02 2014 09:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 08:12 EJK wrote:
so this website...sells old games that are DRM (so free) for monies?


Wut. Not having any DRM doesn't mean the game is free, it just means it doesn't have crap like Uplay or always-online requirements.

Show nested quote +
So you're saying for a mid size team you're better off providing a house than not having a house but having livable (able to live on ones own) wages? That's actually really interesting.

At least in your experience of course.


The majority of Korean players are not paid a salary. Most of those that are happen to be on foreign teams. The top KeSPA koreans are paid salary, those considered B-teamers are not. What remains of the ex-eSF teams are for the most part also not paying salaries. Most teams are also not providing many flights for players due to the expense, some Koreans have paid for their own flights to go to events. I don't know whether or not teams are also taking prize money, I'd imagine not but it's not something I've been able to get anyone to talk about. I do know that some foreign teams take a small percentage of prize money.

For the last couple of years we've taken no prize money from players, paid for the house and all the expenses that come with that, catering, flights and player salaries. This has resulted in the team being hugely expensive to run. The experiment was to see whether it was possible to make that work. I still think it is but as with any startup, the money sunk into it to bring it into the black has been significant and we're not in the black right now, we're still running deep in the red.

I'd say with the sponsorship we have now. If we paid no salary and took a small cut of prizemoney, we could sustain a team of 8 players, pay for the house and all related expenses (since that's the capacity of the house without getting uncomfortable) and fly 1-2 players to an international event every month. We didn't want to be like that. Unfortunately the scene shrank since we started rather than grew so the challenge of breaking even while still treating our players in the way we feel they should be treated is now much more difficult.

Hopefully that should give you some idea of the reality of this whole thing.

I hope your recovery is going well!!! You are the best!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
August 02 2014 11:41 GMT
#77
Gog's great, cool!
The heart's eternal vow
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 02 2014 14:16 GMT
#78
HOW FUCKING COOL IS THAT?! I bought tons of games there.. Dungeon Keeper, Roller Coaster Tycoon... oldies!
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
August 02 2014 14:21 GMT
#79
I received Might and Magic VII as a gift from a friend from GOG.com.

To date, it's still the 2nd best present I've ever gotten, and one of the few games that I've (directly or indirectly) paid for.


FULL-ON SUPPORT FUCK YAH GOG!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-03 03:13:38
August 03 2014 03:13 GMT
#80
Love me some GoG, love me some Axiom, glad to see it.

Btw, buy Alpha Centauri, it's worth it.
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