• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:47
CEST 11:47
KST 18:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
https://www.facebook.com/LottoWinsAI/ 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion Data needed
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1901 users

SortOf leaves Alliance. - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
70 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 01 2014 07:48 GMT
#61
On August 01 2014 16:39 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 12:06 yido wrote:
Makes me feel good about my CM QuickFire purchase over Razer Blackwidow.
I probably will be getting a CM Spawn instead of repurchasing Razer Abyssus as well.
Also switching to redbull instead of monster when I want to upset my stomach.

Seriously though, this EG feels completely different from the one that kept Machine around forever because he was "like family". Picking up NA talents like Suppy to boost NA talent pool. Now after dumping their Proleague roster unceremoniously they decide to close down Alliance Sc2?

^SirPinky, I agree with everything about being grateful for any monetary support for sc2 eSport. But I strongly think that for eSports to become legitimate in the public's eye, it needs to reform into something that demands professionalism and is driven by talent/skill.


You know that Razer also sponsor TeamLiquidPro?


Or realize it doesn't at all matter who you buy from. Most advertisers do it for the brand recognition, so when you choose which product you buy, you are more likely to buy one because you've seen it before.

Buying because a sponsor supports a certain team is rather silly imo. Simply buy the best product on the market, that will push companies to make a better product, rather than throwing money into things that aren't profitable.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 08:15:35
August 01 2014 08:13 GMT
#62
On August 01 2014 16:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 16:39 Faust852 wrote:
On August 01 2014 12:06 yido wrote:
Makes me feel good about my CM QuickFire purchase over Razer Blackwidow.
I probably will be getting a CM Spawn instead of repurchasing Razer Abyssus as well.
Also switching to redbull instead of monster when I want to upset my stomach.

Seriously though, this EG feels completely different from the one that kept Machine around forever because he was "like family". Picking up NA talents like Suppy to boost NA talent pool. Now after dumping their Proleague roster unceremoniously they decide to close down Alliance Sc2?

^SirPinky, I agree with everything about being grateful for any monetary support for sc2 eSport. But I strongly think that for eSports to become legitimate in the public's eye, it needs to reform into something that demands professionalism and is driven by talent/skill.


You know that Razer also sponsor TeamLiquidPro?


Or realize it doesn't at all matter who you buy from. Most advertisers do it for the brand recognition, so when you choose which product you buy, you are more likely to buy one because you've seen it before.

Buying because a sponsor supports a certain team is rather silly imo. Simply buy the best product on the market, that will push companies to make a better product, rather than throwing money into things that aren't profitable.


Well if you look at SteelSeries sponsorship history they used pretty much 95% of their marketing budget on teams. Up until late years they havn´t focused on ads, streaming names or entertainment in general. Marketing through teams simply introduces products to the fans who might get a chance to try out the gear through the teams etc. The simple idea that the fans want to have the same gear as their favorite player.
Razer uses a slighly different model but has always been on the team sponsorship side as well obviously.
You will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
August 01 2014 08:46 GMT
#63
On August 01 2014 05:17 johnbongham wrote:
Just as EG dumped cs entirely, it will eventually dump SC2 entirely. Alex Garfield simply milks the cow while its full and then quietly disappears.

Well, you know, thats how businesses work in the real world.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 01 2014 08:52 GMT
#64
On August 01 2014 16:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 16:39 Faust852 wrote:
On August 01 2014 12:06 yido wrote:
Makes me feel good about my CM QuickFire purchase over Razer Blackwidow.
I probably will be getting a CM Spawn instead of repurchasing Razer Abyssus as well.
Also switching to redbull instead of monster when I want to upset my stomach.

Seriously though, this EG feels completely different from the one that kept Machine around forever because he was "like family". Picking up NA talents like Suppy to boost NA talent pool. Now after dumping their Proleague roster unceremoniously they decide to close down Alliance Sc2?

^SirPinky, I agree with everything about being grateful for any monetary support for sc2 eSport. But I strongly think that for eSports to become legitimate in the public's eye, it needs to reform into something that demands professionalism and is driven by talent/skill.


You know that Razer also sponsor TeamLiquidPro?


Or realize it doesn't at all matter who you buy from. Most advertisers do it for the brand recognition, so when you choose which product you buy, you are more likely to buy one because you've seen it before.

Buying because a sponsor supports a certain team is rather silly imo. Simply buy the best product on the market, that will push companies to make a better product, rather than throwing money into things that aren't profitable.


I don't know, lot of high end gears are more or less equal in quality. So the desider is usually your preference. I bought my 6GV2 and my Sensei because Mvp uses them. I have nothing against Razer but since I didn't know what to buy, the fact that my favourite player uses this modele make me buy Steelseries instead of Razer or Roccat.
LeviathanDK
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark87 Posts
August 01 2014 14:33 GMT
#65
On August 01 2014 05:17 ZenithM wrote:
Probably one of the most talented up-and-coming zerg players out there :/
I hope he finds a team, maybe a Korean one?


u drunk? why would a korean team pick him up when they can pick up any young upcoming korean that is way better than him
yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
August 03 2014 12:01 GMT
#66
LOL @ everyone trying to tell me where to spend my money, never asked for any of your unwanted advice.
I was only trying to show my support for a player I respect and admire, if I want to show my disappointment in his release by a Razer sponsored team I have the right to do it through switching merchandise loyalty.

And yea I know Razer sponsors liquid, but having a negative response about a sponsor wasn't prohibited on liquid forums either.
gl hf
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
August 03 2014 12:42 GMT
#67
On August 01 2014 23:33 LeviathanDK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 05:17 ZenithM wrote:
Probably one of the most talented up-and-coming zerg players out there :/
I hope he finds a team, maybe a Korean one?


u drunk? why would a korean team pick him up when they can pick up any young upcoming korean that is way better than him

Yeah, therefore many people tried to tell him that in nice words as an answer to his blog.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Xhiz
Profile Joined July 2013
Portugal11 Posts
August 03 2014 12:52 GMT
#68
That´s sort of Bad news
zauron
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation17 Posts
August 03 2014 14:48 GMT
#69
I think we're all forgetting that the iconic patchzerg was Ziktomini.
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
August 03 2014 20:00 GMT
#70
On August 01 2014 08:48 johnbongham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 08:20 TBone- wrote:
On August 01 2014 05:17 johnbongham wrote:
Just as EG dumped cs entirely, it will eventually dump SC2 entirely. Alex Garfield simply milks the cow while its full and then quietly disappears.


Which is a completely reasonable thing to do. They are a business dude t.t.


Wow we got a regular Aristotle over here. No shit EG is a business. They are much more a business than an esports organization. Just throwing that out there to those who value loyalty to a scene over $$$$$$$. Alex Garfield doesn't give a shit about the fans, he is just lining his pockets driven by nothing but his thirst for more money. EG has gone from being the ultimate underdog cs team to being the mcdonalds of esports and Alliance is the new Chipotle. Wouldn't be surprised if they even kick Jaedong before he wises up and leaves on his own accord. It was especially annoying when EG was rubbing off on TL for a while. This my opinion, feel free to disagree or sick incontrol on me or whatever. pizza.gg

User was warned for this post


Uuuuuh, so many BS

"No shit EG is a business" - BS sentence
"Alex Garfield doesn't give a shit about the fans" - just wrong BS
"he is just lining his pockets driven by nothing but his thirst for more money" - pathetic BS
"Wouldn't be surprised if they even kick Jaedong" - speculative BS

[A] was a way to give Naniwa a home in esport without joining EG officially. SortOf just came along and got there. Now both are gone. So what?
NOTHING changed to EG, they still have a full lineup with two players in NA-Premier and with Xeno a good up and coming one.

I feel sad for SortOf because i dont think he will find a good team.
None the less: Good Luck!!!
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28525 Posts
August 03 2014 21:20 GMT
#71
On August 01 2014 07:15 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 05:56 MrMercuG wrote:
On August 01 2014 05:39 Ctone23 wrote:
At least foreigners won back then


In 2012? About as much or even less then now.



Oops, you're right. I'm stuck in 2010-11

No he isn't; Stephano won NASL and LSC in 2012
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Railgan 29
SortOf 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 453
Larva 333
actioN 216
Stork 189
sSak 131
ToSsGirL 110
Sharp 81
soO 20
yabsab 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
[ Show more ]
zelot 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm498
XcaliburYe259
League of Legends
JimRising 445
Counter-Strike
allub513
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor195
Other Games
gofns11073
Fuzer 180
singsing175
MindelVK17
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream12840
Other Games
gamesdonequick865
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 37
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1770
• Stunt500
• TFBlade441
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1h 14m
Classic vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Percival
herO vs Clem
ByuN vs Rogue
Ladder Legends
5h 14m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5h 14m
BSL
9h 14m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 1h
Ladder Legends
1d 5h
BSL
1d 9h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.