EPTWCS America - Pigbaby Flies the Royal Road - Page 4
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On July 08 2014 00:00 nkr wrote: It took some time but finally NA got a decent WCS! :D because everyone that left Korea avoided EU and now there are lots of Koreans again in one League  But... the finals profited GREATLY from having Terrans there. That is something you just cannot denie, ZvP has become boring again, not to mention the mirrors of these 2. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
Congrats to Pigbaby | ||
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erby
464 Posts
On July 08 2014 07:38 FeyFey wrote: monster trophy wow. Should stop tabbing after the last game. I said it elsewhere but seriously, Top 3 Most Unkissable Trophy? | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Despite being the hardest league, I always thought the gsl trophies were quite underwhelming. Some of them even look like shampoo bottles: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/1/1d/DRG_GSLS1_Champion.jpg/370px-DRG_GSLS1_Champion.jpg) | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45914 Posts
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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SirPinky
United States525 Posts
On July 08 2014 01:00 Random_0 wrote: To my viewing, QXC did a phenomental job casting WCS America. He provided several moments of real insight that made me sit up and take pause. I hope we get to hear more of him in the booth. Let's hope he stepped it up since 2011. It seems like he improved. It was UNBEARABLE in 2011, so much so I even remember unsubscribing until he was gone. I wish I had some of that casting out of my memory, but it was so bad I remember QXC basically not even looking at the game. Instead he was trying to be funny, which was far far from the truth. EDIT: Actually after watching a few of the Vods, he improved a lot and looks pretty solid. But I don't know what was going on in 2011, college apathy? It will be a while for him to overcome that indelible casting performance in my memory. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On the other hand, that's yet another new Protoss suddenly able to take games off top Terran players, despite being so rough at times that his engagement on Akilon was hands down the worst positioning blunder I've seen from a Korean player in around a year. The last time I saw something so bad was a PvP on Belshir Vestige. For fans of consistent results, the last year has been a very frustrating one. | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Picasso
Korea (South)52 Posts
On July 08 2014 05:46 PinoKotsBeer wrote: QXC did great, a fantastic addition to the WCS NA team. I wish Bomber would have won the ZPcraft tournament.... User was warned for this post So wait, TL advocates a whole article on emphasizing "ZParcraft II" and warns a user by simply using TL's very own jargon? I like that there are no balance whines on this thread to congratulate Pigbaby's win, but this is just hypocritical. PinoKotsBeer didn't go on a raging rant of how Bomber should've won, but just used a term coined by TL's own staff, and BOOM goes the punishment. Good laugh | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 08 2014 12:33 Picasso wrote: So wait, TL advocates a whole article on emphasizing "ZParcraft II" and warns a user by simply using TL's very own jargon? I like that there are no balance whines on this thread to congratulate Pigbaby's win, but this is just hypocritical. PinoKotsBeer didn't go on a raging rant of how Bomber should've won, but just used a term coined by TL's own staff, and BOOM goes the punishment. Good laugh He has a history of offensive balance whining, which he just got banned for. Also, back seat moderation is a warnable offense. | ||
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[Droids]StarCreator
United States1 Post
User was banned for this post. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 08 2014 00:02 AlternativeEgo wrote: idunno, stuch'. Pretty sure that at least one guy did as soon as he found out that Pigbaby had entered the qualifier  Edit: Oh and here is the vod playlist on Youtube The kid was described as one of the next big things similarly to Movie and he did it in the NA Prelims. Big whoop. Not much of a RR to go by lol. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 08 2014 13:28 [Droids]StarCreator wrote: It's so upsetting to see a player like Bomber, who so clearly outplayed his opponent, lose because of the game balance. It's becoming increasingly obvious that even the Korean terrans now understand that they have a better chance at base racing in late game TvP than they do in engaging their opponents army. Everyone knows the game needs some serious reworking, and i'm afraid if something isn't done to help the game balance to make things more interesting, and fun, starcraft will most certainly lose what's left of its already fading fan base Did you only do new account for that post. Gratz. | ||
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Samx
Singapore149 Posts
On July 08 2014 13:28 [Droids]StarCreator wrote: It's so upsetting to see a player like Bomber, who so clearly outplayed his opponent, lose because of the game balance. It's becoming increasingly obvious that even the Korean terrans now understand that they have a better chance at base racing in late game TvP than they do in engaging their opponents army. Everyone knows the game needs some serious reworking, and i'm afraid if something isn't done to help the game balance to make things more interesting, and fun, starcraft will most certainly lose what's left of its already fading fan base How was it that bomber clearly outplayed pigbaby? Game 1: Carrier rush, failed. Bomber won, spamming marines against carriers. Game 2: When Pig baby attacked, he had 16 stalkers, 4 sentries, 1 MSC, 1 oracle on +1 armour upgrade vs bomber who had 20 marines and 2 marauders and 1 widow mine and 2 low energy medivac. Bomber refuse to build bunker even when he saw what was coming. When the attack come, his only bunker wasn't even complete. Game 3: Immortal bust. 3 bunkers up for bomber. unstim marines, no medivac. Easy hold by bomber. Game 4: Pigbaby on 3 base for the majority of the game. Bomber on 2 base.20 workers killed by bomber hellion runby with photon overcharge active, bomber had nothing at home vs the 2 oracles. Pigbaby outplayed bomber in this game, until a bad engagement against MMM ball and his entire army was decimated. Game 5. Bomber did not scout, totally unprepared against DT. Bomber respond by going across the map with 2 medivac and about 20 units, with photon overcharge active and pigbaby's army being around. Bomber was still able to kill the nexus and get away with 1 medivac full of unit. After being behind the whole game, bomber would have forced the draw if he swap the dead space between cc and rax. Game 6. Again Pigbaby clearly outplayed bomber by far. Bomber does not scout. Some storm drop. When bomber was attacking with MMMM, pigbaby out-multitask him with more storm drops and zealots warpin. Bomber just let his scv dies at home. Against Marauder, archon and HT storm composition, Bomber just had MMMM, no ghost. Game 7. Gangnam Terran. Pigbaby clearly was well prepared for this with the tempest build. Overall. Pigbaby had the benefit of knowing he would play a Terran if he got past Hyun. Bomber could not prepare as well. It was obvious in the games. Pigbaby came in very well prepared, knowing exactly how he wanted to play each map.And I think throughout all 7 games, IIRC, not a single ghost or viking(except on Habitation station for the 1-1-1) was made by bomber. He did not scout what was coming in the games. Bomber play every game using one strategy. Build MMM, go across and win. In fact, if anything, the games prove that MMM is far OP than protoss. MMM all day, everyday, and Bomber nearly won, despite Pigbaby being far more prepared with builds, outplaying Bomber by far in most games and yet it was so close that Bomber could have won. Indeed, bomber would have won if it was a BO5 and he would have done it playing nothing but MMM. I think that is the problem of balance today. Most Terran players do not try new things, and are still stuck on 2011 mindset. I make MMM and I will auto-win. There was a recent game where Major played, he just swap the tech lab onto the starport, make 1 raven to support his army and it made a lot of difference in the game. Unit tech for Terran is so much easier than protoss because you can swap the buildings onto tech lab except for BC and Ghost. But yet, all we see is MMM everyday. The ghost is such a powerful unit against protoss and yet we only see them being built if there are HT. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
Excellent response and breakdown. If this is the quality of post you make, you'll be a valuable asset to the forum. I didn't think about it when I was in the studio, but this series might have actually been the ultimate enforcement of Bomber's Law. After the game where Pigbaby made the bad Blink, I honestly thought it was over - most people did, they got the translator on standby, they were instructing us on rushing the stage, and the general consensus in the room was that the people's champion would fall short. It's a credit to both Pigbaby's tenacity and Bomber's Law that this result happened. | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
Poor Bomber, he would have been a glorious champion. | ||
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