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WCS America - Pigbaby Flies the Royal Road - Page 4

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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 07 2014 22:27 GMT
#61
Yeah qxc was pretty awesome this weekend. Whenever he's not playing is like to hear his casting
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 07 2014 22:36 GMT
#62
On July 08 2014 00:00 nkr wrote:
It took some time but finally NA got a decent WCS!

:D because everyone that left Korea avoided EU and now there are lots of Koreans again in one League
But... the finals profited GREATLY from having Terrans there. That is something you just cannot denie, ZvP has become boring again, not to mention the mirrors of these 2.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 07 2014 22:38 GMT
#63
monster trophy wow. Should stop tabbing after the last game.
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
July 07 2014 22:52 GMT
#64
That'll do, Babe. That'll do.

Congrats to Pigbaby
erby
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
464 Posts
July 07 2014 23:02 GMT
#65
On July 08 2014 07:38 FeyFey wrote:
monster trophy wow. Should stop tabbing after the last game.


I said it elsewhere but seriously, Top 3 Most Unkissable Trophy?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 07 2014 23:39 GMT
#66
I love monster trophies. They really scream, "CHAMPION", to me.

Despite being the hardest league, I always thought the gsl trophies were quite underwhelming. Some of them even look like shampoo bottles:

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45385 Posts
July 07 2014 23:51 GMT
#67
Phenomenal run from Pigbaby, and probably the most interesting and entertaining I've seen in a looong time
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
July 07 2014 23:53 GMT
#68
hands down one of the best finals. Carriers were made.
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 00:15:29
July 08 2014 00:03 GMT
#69
On July 08 2014 01:00 Random_0 wrote:
To my viewing, QXC did a phenomental job casting WCS America. He provided several moments of real insight that made me sit up and take pause.

I hope we get to hear more of him in the booth.


Let's hope he stepped it up since 2011. It seems like he improved. It was UNBEARABLE in 2011, so much so I even remember unsubscribing until he was gone. I wish I had some of that casting out of my memory, but it was so bad I remember QXC basically not even looking at the game. Instead he was trying to be funny, which was far far from the truth.



EDIT: Actually after watching a few of the Vods, he improved a lot and looks pretty solid. But I don't know what was going on in 2011, college apathy? It will be a while for him to overcome that indelible casting performance in my memory.
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
July 08 2014 00:12 GMT
#70
This finals made me like Pigbaby and dislike the current state of the game in just about equal measure. Fantastic reads of two very different opponents (Taeja and Bomber), some truly creative builds and responses, and an over-all sense of showmanship and sportsmanship made Pigbaby a worthy and likable royal roader. Even Bomber seemed to be in great spirits after that finals, and it's hard to blame him. Those were some fun games.

On the other hand, that's yet another new Protoss suddenly able to take games off top Terran players, despite being so rough at times that his engagement on Akilon was hands down the worst positioning blunder I've seen from a Korean player in around a year. The last time I saw something so bad was a PvP on Belshir Vestige.

For fans of consistent results, the last year has been a very frustrating one.
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
July 08 2014 00:42 GMT
#71
Did not see this coming.... congrats pigbaby :D
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 08 2014 01:04 GMT
#72
So pigs do fly now! Grats to PB!
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Picasso
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)52 Posts
July 08 2014 03:33 GMT
#73
On July 08 2014 05:46 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
QXC did great, a fantastic addition to the WCS NA team.

I wish Bomber would have won the ZPcraft tournament....

User was warned for this post


So wait, TL advocates a whole article on emphasizing "ZParcraft II" and warns a user by simply using TL's very own jargon?
I like that there are no balance whines on this thread to congratulate Pigbaby's win, but this is just hypocritical. PinoKotsBeer didn't go on a raging rant of how Bomber should've won, but just used a term coined by TL's own staff, and BOOM goes the punishment. Good laugh
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 08 2014 03:49 GMT
#74
On July 08 2014 12:33 Picasso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 05:46 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
QXC did great, a fantastic addition to the WCS NA team.

I wish Bomber would have won the ZPcraft tournament....

User was warned for this post


So wait, TL advocates a whole article on emphasizing "ZParcraft II" and warns a user by simply using TL's very own jargon?
I like that there are no balance whines on this thread to congratulate Pigbaby's win, but this is just hypocritical. PinoKotsBeer didn't go on a raging rant of how Bomber should've won, but just used a term coined by TL's own staff, and BOOM goes the punishment. Good laugh


He has a history of offensive balance whining, which he just got banned for. Also, back seat moderation is a warnable offense.
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[Droids]StarCreator
Profile Joined July 2014
United States1 Post
July 08 2014 04:28 GMT
#75
It's so upsetting to see a player like Bomber, who so clearly outplayed his opponent, lose because of the game balance. It's becoming increasingly obvious that even the Korean terrans now understand that they have a better chance at base racing in late game TvP than they do in engaging their opponents army. Everyone knows the game needs some serious reworking, and i'm afraid if something isn't done to help the game balance to make things more interesting, and fun, starcraft will most certainly lose what's left of its already fading fan base

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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 08 2014 04:44 GMT
#76
On July 08 2014 00:02 AlternativeEgo wrote:
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No one predicted that he could have gone this far


idunno, stuch'. Pretty sure that at least one guy did as soon as he found out that Pigbaby had entered the qualifier

Edit: Oh and here is the vod playlist on Youtube


The kid was described as one of the next big things similarly to Movie and he did it in the NA Prelims. Big whoop. Not much of a RR to go by lol.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 08 2014 05:19 GMT
#77
On July 08 2014 13:28 [Droids]StarCreator wrote:
It's so upsetting to see a player like Bomber, who so clearly outplayed his opponent, lose because of the game balance. It's becoming increasingly obvious that even the Korean terrans now understand that they have a better chance at base racing in late game TvP than they do in engaging their opponents army. Everyone knows the game needs some serious reworking, and i'm afraid if something isn't done to help the game balance to make things more interesting, and fun, starcraft will most certainly lose what's left of its already fading fan base

Did you only do new account for that post. Gratz.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Samx
Profile Joined August 2013
Singapore149 Posts
July 08 2014 06:04 GMT
#78
On July 08 2014 13:28 [Droids]StarCreator wrote:
It's so upsetting to see a player like Bomber, who so clearly outplayed his opponent, lose because of the game balance. It's becoming increasingly obvious that even the Korean terrans now understand that they have a better chance at base racing in late game TvP than they do in engaging their opponents army. Everyone knows the game needs some serious reworking, and i'm afraid if something isn't done to help the game balance to make things more interesting, and fun, starcraft will most certainly lose what's left of its already fading fan base


How was it that bomber clearly outplayed pigbaby?
Game 1: Carrier rush, failed. Bomber won, spamming marines against carriers.
Game 2: When Pig baby attacked, he had 16 stalkers, 4 sentries, 1 MSC, 1 oracle on +1 armour upgrade vs bomber who had 20 marines and 2 marauders and 1 widow mine and 2 low energy medivac. Bomber refuse to build bunker even when he saw what was coming. When the attack come, his only bunker wasn't even complete.
Game 3: Immortal bust. 3 bunkers up for bomber. unstim marines, no medivac. Easy hold by bomber.
Game 4: Pigbaby on 3 base for the majority of the game. Bomber on 2 base.20 workers killed by bomber hellion runby with photon overcharge active, bomber had nothing at home vs the 2 oracles. Pigbaby outplayed bomber in this game, until a bad engagement against MMM ball and his entire army was decimated.
Game 5. Bomber did not scout, totally unprepared against DT. Bomber respond by going across the map with 2 medivac and about 20 units, with photon overcharge active and pigbaby's army being around. Bomber was still able to kill the nexus and get away with 1 medivac full of unit. After being behind the whole game, bomber would have forced the draw if he swap the dead space between cc and rax.
Game 6. Again Pigbaby clearly outplayed bomber by far. Bomber does not scout. Some storm drop. When bomber was attacking with MMMM, pigbaby out-multitask him with more storm drops and zealots warpin. Bomber just let his scv dies at home. Against Marauder, archon and HT storm composition, Bomber just had MMMM, no ghost.
Game 7. Gangnam Terran. Pigbaby clearly was well prepared for this with the tempest build.

Overall. Pigbaby had the benefit of knowing he would play a Terran if he got past Hyun. Bomber could not prepare as well. It was obvious in the games. Pigbaby came in very well prepared, knowing exactly how he wanted to play each map.And I think throughout all 7 games, IIRC, not a single ghost or viking(except on Habitation station for the 1-1-1) was made by bomber. He did not scout what was coming in the games. Bomber play every game using one strategy. Build MMM, go across and win. In fact, if anything, the games prove that MMM is far OP than protoss. MMM all day, everyday, and Bomber nearly won, despite Pigbaby being far more prepared with builds, outplaying Bomber by far in most games and yet it was so close that Bomber could have won. Indeed, bomber would have won if it was a BO5 and he would have done it playing nothing but MMM.

I think that is the problem of balance today. Most Terran players do not try new things, and are still stuck on 2011 mindset. I make MMM and I will auto-win. There was a recent game where Major played, he just swap the tech lab onto the starport, make 1 raven to support his army and it made a lot of difference in the game. Unit tech for Terran is so much easier than protoss because you can swap the buildings onto tech lab except for BC and Ghost. But yet, all we see is MMM everyday. The ghost is such a powerful unit against protoss and yet we only see them being built if there are HT.
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 08 2014 06:20 GMT
#79
On July 08 2014 15:04 Samx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 13:28 [Droids]StarCreator wrote:
It's so upsetting to see a player like Bomber, who so clearly outplayed his opponent, lose because of the game balance. It's becoming increasingly obvious that even the Korean terrans now understand that they have a better chance at base racing in late game TvP than they do in engaging their opponents army. Everyone knows the game needs some serious reworking, and i'm afraid if something isn't done to help the game balance to make things more interesting, and fun, starcraft will most certainly lose what's left of its already fading fan base


(Snipped)


Excellent response and breakdown. If this is the quality of post you make, you'll be a valuable asset to the forum.

I didn't think about it when I was in the studio, but this series might have actually been the ultimate enforcement of Bomber's Law. After the game where Pigbaby made the bad Blink, I honestly thought it was over - most people did, they got the translator on standby, they were instructing us on rushing the stage, and the general consensus in the room was that the people's champion would fall short. It's a credit to both Pigbaby's tenacity and Bomber's Law that this result happened.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 08 2014 06:34 GMT
#80
So, was there some good Pigbaby hype during the tournament or was it "some guy" winning?

Poor Bomber, he would have been a glorious champion.
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