|
Due to Proleague commitments, we rarely get to see the amazing talent of the kespa teams compete outside of Korea. It is a sacrifice they have to make to be able to participate in the premier team league in starcraft 2. However, as things stand, they are being punished in the WCS system.
If you have a look at the current WCS Standings, it becomes clear that players on kespa teams very rarely get any points outside of the GSL.
The proleague players in the top 16, Zest, Life, herO, sOs, soO and Rain have together amassed 7 appearances in tournaments outside of Korea, out of which 3 belong to Life. Looking further down the list you get barely any attendance outside of Korea. So not only do they compete in by far the hardest WCS region, but they also have no real way of gathering points outside GSL.
I feel awarding WCS points for top performers in Proleague would level the playing field for the kespa koreans a lot, ensuring that the players at Blizzcon are actually the best in the world.
I also think that Proleague is incredibly important to the existence of Sc2, especially in Korea. Having players being handicaped in the global system because they play in proleague could result in the best players leaving the league. This is obviously not something we want.
Poll: WCS Points for Proleague?Yes! :) (512) 69% No! :( (206) 28% Not sure :| (27) 4% 745 total votes Your vote: WCS Points for Proleague? (Vote): Yes! :)
(Vote): No! :(
(Vote): Not sure :|
|
Rain, Soo, Sos, (CJ) Hero, and Zest are all currently Kespa players in the top 16 right now. Maru is close to top 16 as well.
KeSPA players shouldn't get sympathy points because they don't feel like playing in singles tournaments.
|
On June 10 2014 03:23 Ribbon wrote:
Rain, Soo, Sos, (CJ) Hero, and Zest are all currently Kespa players in the top 16 right now. Maru is close to top 16 as well.
KeSPA players shouldn't get sympathy points because they don't feel like playing in singles tournaments.
It's not that they don't feel like it, it's that they can't because they are in proleague teams. Also the fact that the best Terran in the world isn't in the top16 because he can't farm tournaments outside the GSL only supports the argument.
|
the dumb thing is outside events giving points imo. It just promotes good player that get flied everywhere instead of the best players in each region.
|
Nah
Next they will want the same for ATC
If Kespa doesn't care about individual tournaments, then they don't care about blizzcon too
Skt, kt and jin air are already in the finals, so round 4 of proleague does't matter much
See if they will send anyone to tourneys outside korea
|
I think maybe one solution would be to give more points to the GSL that allows for Kespa players to build up more over the course of the year.
|
On June 10 2014 03:29 AWalker9 wrote:
I think maybe one solution would be to give more points to the GSL that allows for Kespa players to build up more over the course of the year.
True, this is also a possible solution.
|
Here we go what I said last year. Stop this silly (WCS Points) dependence of tournaments outside WCS. ProLeague, DH, Redbull, HSC, etc dont need to give WCs points. Only within WCS, nothing else.
|
WCS points for a teamleague? No, I'm not feeling that.
|
No because it's like an invite only tournament(in a way),most players cannot participate which means it cannot give any WCS points.
|
I guess it's true that people who are unhappy with something are more vocal. Feel free to post your opinion even if you agree with the OP 
|
Blizzcon finals is pretty clearly not the actual top 16 players. WCS Korea's top 16 gives a better representation than Blizzcon, imo.
|
On June 10 2014 03:50 DifuntO wrote:
No because it's like an invite only tournament(in a way),most players cannot participate which means it cannot give any WCS points.
the hypocrisy that consist to ignore the cost of going to a dh/IEM is pretty huge imo. You cannot stay it's totally free of access if you consider that it can cost more than 1k$ depending from where you live.
|
When Blizzard introduced the WCS 2013 system, they purposely gave other tournaments WCS points in order to make a larger, overarching story to events. I personally wouldn't agree that the WCS points do that all that much (aside from the very end of the season, IEM, for example) but I don't see them taking WCS points away from other events.
Even more than that though, I don't think they would ever (or should ever) add WCS points to proleague, or any other team league. Like someone else mentioned, it essentially is an invitational only tournament. I would much prefer that GSL perhaps be compensated more in terms of WCS points. I don't think anyone would argue they don't deserve it.
|
Would support this for sure. That said I'd support anything to get Flash to Blizzcon, including a rule that states, "Flash is guaranteed a spot in Blizzcon despite performance"
|
On June 10 2014 03:43 Dingodile wrote:
Here we go what I said last year. Stop this silly (WCS Points) dependence of tournaments outside WCS. ProLeague, DH, Redbull, HSC, etc dont need to give WCs points. Only within WCS, nothing else.
This, much this.
Players whose teams have the money to fly them around the globe collect points way more easily. This leads to having people in Blizzcon who got his ticket because he could afford travelling to attend tournaments with easier competition and high rewards points wise.
Even worse is the case of invitational tournaments. Popular players get invited everywhere, hence they get more chances to collect the points, an unfair advantage over the others.
Edit: despite what I said above, I'd support OP's idea, to leverage the advantage the players in foreign teams have over the Proleague-commited ones.
|
PLS give top players in proleague points. Then we can get Maru at Blizzcon again :D
|
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 10 2014 04:50 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
PLS give top players in proleague points. Then we can get Maru at Blizzcon again :D
It's likely that we will anyway.
|
No, the players don't even have a say in who gets to play. What about the b-teamers? WCS tournaments have to be open to everyone. Proleague is a closed system where the coaches decide who gets to play. I'd rather see WCS points gone from all the other tournaments like DH and IEM.
|
On June 10 2014 04:55 Musicus wrote:
No, the players don't even have a say in who gets to play. What about the b-teamers? WCS tournaments have to be open to everyone. Proleague is a closed system where the coaches decide who gets to play. I'd rather see WCS points gone from all the other tournaments like DH and IEM.
the openess is a joke considering the costs involved and the strain travelling put on actual practice.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
