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RavingRaver
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada57 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 22:46:40
May 10 2014 18:49 GMT
#1
There have been a wave of promotions recently due to Blizzard attempting to adjust the leagues to closely match proposed league percentages. I was one of those who got promoted as I went from Gold to Platinum. It appears that Bronze and Silver are shrinking, while Gold, Platinum, Diamond and Masters are slowly growing.

Personally, I find that this is a good change as it's bringing leagues closer to how they were in WoL, which is superior to how it was in HotS for the most part. My question to you is do you feel that this change is warranted as leagues were straying too far from proposed percentages, is it making leagues lose their value or it doesn't matter either way as long as the match making system is working properly?

Sources:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/12674208900

http://nios.kr/

http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league


Poll: What do you think of the recent league adjustments?

I don't care either way (184)
 
56%

I think they were long overdue (100)
 
31%

Unnecessary, leagues were fine (42)
 
13%

326 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of the recent league adjustments?

(Vote): I think they were long overdue
(Vote): Unnecessary, leagues were fine
(Vote): I don't care either way

InFluenza
Profile Joined January 2014
Netherlands55 Posts
May 10 2014 18:50 GMT
#2
I'm in diamond now so I can't say I'm unhappy about the new changes!
Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 10 2014 18:53 GMT
#3
I don't care, and don't know why anybody should care. Getting promoted doesn't mean you got any better, especially under these circumstances.
Refer to my post.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
May 10 2014 18:56 GMT
#4
On May 11 2014 03:53 Zenbrez wrote:
I don't care, and don't know why anybody should care. Getting promoted doesn't mean you got any better, especially under these circumstances.

yep, i agree 100%. but at the same time i understand the psychology behind people fixating over their leagues, so i don't put too much thought into it. people want to play with their toys
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 19:05:11
May 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#5
I don't care. I play unranked and I get opponent's from diamond to silver and my experience says silver zerg>terran top8diamond. I was pretty shocked yesterday how weak terran and protoss are in higher league (until diamond) than zerg from lower leagues. I played yesterday first time offrace protoss and got a top16 diamond terran (>150 laddergames this season), he needed 32min to beat me.

edit: Blizziard should disable the color notification (which league) on loadscreen before game starts. I become anxious if I see my opponent is bronze/silver league players und pretty happy if diamond/platin. diamond/platin makes more fun and produce much more balanced games for me.
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Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 19:01:20
May 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#6
why does league adjustment matter? Ur supposed to get matched with people of similar MMR anyway. I could care less if I had a diamond badge or a master badge or grandmaster, as long as im playing players of similar skill.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#7
What if I told you that leagues do not mean anything?
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
May 10 2014 19:08 GMT
#8
league doesn't matter, I'm shit either way
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Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
May 10 2014 19:11 GMT
#9
On May 11 2014 04:02 Blargh wrote:
What if I told you that leagues do not mean anything?

Well that's not quite true. You need the leagues to show how many points you have in said league, and that combo means a lot. Sure you could set the scale with just pure ELO, but that would make it way more unappealing. And on a less technical note, the leagues provide a great way for people to focus on improving. When I played regularly, my end goal was always to hit Master (started as a lowly bronze) and being able to hit the milestones of the next league were such a boost. It makes you feel like your hard work isn't all for nothing.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
May 10 2014 19:11 GMT
#10
On May 11 2014 04:08 banjoetheredskin wrote:
league doesn't matter, I'm shit either way

damn, I wanted to post this!
first we make expand, then we defense it.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 10 2014 19:12 GMT
#11
I don't care about leagues, but please remove the goddamn decay.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 19:14:52
May 10 2014 19:14 GMT
#12
On May 11 2014 04:11 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 04:02 Blargh wrote:
What if I told you that leagues do not mean anything?

Well that's not quite true. You need the leagues to show how many points you have in said league, and that combo means a lot. Sure you could set the scale with just pure ELO, but that would make it way more unappealing. And on a less technical note, the leagues provide a great way for people to focus on improving. When I played regularly, my end goal was always to hit Master (started as a lowly bronze) and being able to hit the milestones of the next league were such a boost. It makes you feel like your hard work isn't all for nothing.

well, if you need leagues and care about "points," that's fine. but a lot of us are able to improve and set goals without unreliable trinkets and badges such as league placement. whatever works for you though!
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
May 10 2014 19:14 GMT
#13
On May 11 2014 04:02 Blargh wrote:
What if I told you that leagues do not mean anything?

What if I told you should get some psychology courses?
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 10 2014 19:15 GMT
#14
I mean the average skill level on ladder is way higher, this is somewhat reflective in any case.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
May 10 2014 19:19 GMT
#15
I don't care since i'm master. Others might be happy now.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 19:28:17
May 10 2014 19:27 GMT
#16
On May 11 2014 04:08 banjoetheredskin wrote:
league doesn't matter, I'm shit either way


I tried to tell a friend this, that almost all of us are just bad at this game, and it annoyed him. He is a bronze player who sometimes gets matched with silvers and he felt like I was putting down his play. Different people see this in different ways.
KT best KT ~ 2014
GoldenH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1115 Posts
May 10 2014 19:28 GMT
#17
If people are about the same skill, they should be in the same league. % is meaningless. If everyone's on a bell curve, then whatever % blizz uses is meaningless, then why would anyone care?
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
May 10 2014 19:35 GMT
#18
I can say I'm indeed getting adjusted, was Silver/Bronze for the last 3 seasons but was promoted to Gold in 5 games this season.
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imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
May 10 2014 19:36 GMT
#19
I guess this explains why I laddered for the first time since the D3 expansion yesterday, lost 3 games, then had my opponent surrender from a winning position because he had to leave on my 4th game, and got promoted from that one win :D
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
May 10 2014 20:13 GMT
#20
I am in Diamond for the first time after 5-6 seasons of Platin. I haven't played since being promoted partly due to not having time, partly due to feeling not belonging there skill-wise.
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