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NaNiwa forfeits mid-series at IEM Katowice - Page 4

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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 14 2014 16:49 GMT
#61
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?
The curse is real
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 16:52:01
March 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#62
It appears that Naniwa just does these controversial kinds of things on purpose, just to keep himself relevant within the scene... Negative publicity is publicity nonetheless....
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#63
On March 15 2014 01:49 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?

The player that did that checked out months ago. The person on that stage was a child undeserving of respect.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#64
On March 15 2014 01:51 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:49 Tobblish wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?

The player that did that checked out months ago. The person on that stage was a child undeserving of respect.


Exactly what I was saying in my post on the other page.
The Naniwa as of late, 2014 have been utterly miserable and I wont let that overshadow what he have done before that.
The curse is real
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#65
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#66
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#67
Good to see this thread doesn't get that much attention. People grow tired of his shit over the years. But hey, at least he took a free hotel room, wasted a spot and everybodys time. A great day for him.

Sad kid, go away. Thanks.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#68
On March 15 2014 01:54 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.

Polt used the exact same SCV scouting path he used in IEM Cologne. The odds of a soundproofing issue tipping him off are slim to none.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#69
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#70
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#71
I've always tried to see stuff like this from Naniwa's point of view. All his other stuff I've always been able to understand (exepct the probe pull incident, didn't like that). This is just too far though, he hasn't played a ladder game in over a month, hence the proxy strat (exactly the same 'over as quickly as possible BS we saw in his WCS group) and he actually blames the soundproofing? If you're going to do that don't announce to the world you're done with SC2 before the tournament.

All I can say is I'm completely indifferent to him leaving SC2. Many other pros have left/retired which I have been pretty torn up about, but with Naniwa I really just don't care.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#72
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...

Apparently they are, cf Kennigit. and players from the LoL pro where they have 6x the audience.
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#73
Honestly I hope this post doesn't get me banned because I love TL but seriously he is acting like an ungrateful pissant. Even if you felt like things were being heard giving polt an edge then alwel just play out the series for the people. Don't be such a douche and atleast play it out for the fans..... people did come to see good games played......

Honestly if he treats the rest of his life like this i'm sure his life will fall apart because he seems to have no drive , honor , or respect for anything or anyone....
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#74
well thats classy
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#75
these kind of players are backstabbing the esports industry. sponsors must stop contracting them, and tournaments must stop inviting them.

Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#76
On March 15 2014 01:56 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.


Tarnishing decades of a distinguished career in the most important tournament in the world because someone called your mother a whore is kind of a cry baby attitude. Kick the shit into the guy when you're off the pitch
braller
Profile Joined January 2013
96 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#77
On March 15 2014 01:56 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.


I'd say it's pretty analogous, in that both cases involved wild overreactions to minor bad things.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#78
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...

No booth is sound proof. Headphones are sound dampening, but nothing can block all incoming noise.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
March 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#79
So appropriate right before NaniWAHWAHs exit from SC2

I'll be happy to see players like this gone.

Sucks to see people actually blaming IEM for this.
SCV good to go sir
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 17:31:50
March 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#80
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...


It is right on the front page news LR thread.
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