• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:26
CEST 05:26
KST 12:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Data needed ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1503 users

NaNiwa forfeits mid-series at IEM Katowice - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
938 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 45 46 47 Next All
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 14 2014 16:49 GMT
#61
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?
The curse is real
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 16:52:01
March 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#62
It appears that Naniwa just does these controversial kinds of things on purpose, just to keep himself relevant within the scene... Negative publicity is publicity nonetheless....
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#63
On March 15 2014 01:49 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?

The player that did that checked out months ago. The person on that stage was a child undeserving of respect.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#64
On March 15 2014 01:51 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:49 Tobblish wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?

The player that did that checked out months ago. The person on that stage was a child undeserving of respect.


Exactly what I was saying in my post on the other page.
The Naniwa as of late, 2014 have been utterly miserable and I wont let that overshadow what he have done before that.
The curse is real
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#65
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#66
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#67
Good to see this thread doesn't get that much attention. People grow tired of his shit over the years. But hey, at least he took a free hotel room, wasted a spot and everybodys time. A great day for him.

Sad kid, go away. Thanks.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#68
On March 15 2014 01:54 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.

Polt used the exact same SCV scouting path he used in IEM Cologne. The odds of a soundproofing issue tipping him off are slim to none.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#69
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#70
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#71
I've always tried to see stuff like this from Naniwa's point of view. All his other stuff I've always been able to understand (exepct the probe pull incident, didn't like that). This is just too far though, he hasn't played a ladder game in over a month, hence the proxy strat (exactly the same 'over as quickly as possible BS we saw in his WCS group) and he actually blames the soundproofing? If you're going to do that don't announce to the world you're done with SC2 before the tournament.

All I can say is I'm completely indifferent to him leaving SC2. Many other pros have left/retired which I have been pretty torn up about, but with Naniwa I really just don't care.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#72
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...

Apparently they are, cf Kennigit. and players from the LoL pro where they have 6x the audience.
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#73
Honestly I hope this post doesn't get me banned because I love TL but seriously he is acting like an ungrateful pissant. Even if you felt like things were being heard giving polt an edge then alwel just play out the series for the people. Don't be such a douche and atleast play it out for the fans..... people did come to see good games played......

Honestly if he treats the rest of his life like this i'm sure his life will fall apart because he seems to have no drive , honor , or respect for anything or anyone....
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#74
well thats classy
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#75
these kind of players are backstabbing the esports industry. sponsors must stop contracting them, and tournaments must stop inviting them.

Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#76
On March 15 2014 01:56 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.


Tarnishing decades of a distinguished career in the most important tournament in the world because someone called your mother a whore is kind of a cry baby attitude. Kick the shit into the guy when you're off the pitch
braller
Profile Joined January 2013
96 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#77
On March 15 2014 01:56 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.


I'd say it's pretty analogous, in that both cases involved wild overreactions to minor bad things.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#78
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...

No booth is sound proof. Headphones are sound dampening, but nothing can block all incoming noise.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
March 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#79
So appropriate right before NaniWAHWAHs exit from SC2

I'll be happy to see players like this gone.

Sucks to see people actually blaming IEM for this.
SCV good to go sir
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 17:31:50
March 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#80
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...


It is right on the front page news LR thread.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 45 46 47 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Week 88
CranKy Ducklings63
davetesta28
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
22:15
Best Games of SC
Rogue vs MaxPax
Maru vs Zoun
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs TBD
PiGStarcraft306
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 180
NeuroSwarm 174
Nina 75
PiLiPiLi 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 29
Icarus 11
League of Legends
JimRising 638
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv183
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox606
Other Games
summit1g12048
tarik_tv6040
C9.Mang0386
PiGStarcraft306
WinterStarcraft278
Trikslyr171
ViBE52
Livibee49
amsayoshi45
Mew2King38
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick961
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH285
• Hupsaiya 64
• HKG_Chickenman17
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• intothetv
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo911
• Stunt144
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
6h 35m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
7h 35m
SC Evo League
10h 5m
IPSL
12h 35m
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
15h 35m
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
18h 35m
CranKy Ducklings
20h 35m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 6h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 7h
Ladder Legends
1d 11h
[ Show More ]
BSL
1d 15h
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
1d 15h
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W3
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.