• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:44
CET 20:44
KST 04:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0244LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles
Tourneys
The Dave Testa Open #11 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ CasterMuse Youtube TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1126 users

NaNiwa forfeits mid-series at IEM Katowice - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
938 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 45 46 47 Next All
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 14 2014 16:49 GMT
#61
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?
The curse is real
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 16:52:01
March 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#62
It appears that Naniwa just does these controversial kinds of things on purpose, just to keep himself relevant within the scene... Negative publicity is publicity nonetheless....
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 16:51 GMT
#63
On March 15 2014 01:49 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?

The player that did that checked out months ago. The person on that stage was a child undeserving of respect.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#64
On March 15 2014 01:51 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:49 Tobblish wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:46 arctics86 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.


Hasu has always been his little buddy anyway. Naniwa makes the decisions in that twosome.


Hasuobs is older than Naniwa + there is no twosome, what are you talking about?

Naniwa got what he asked for, I won't miss him playing SC


I guess beating MVP and Nestea while getting ro8 in GSL is just something anyone can do I guess?

The player that did that checked out months ago. The person on that stage was a child undeserving of respect.


Exactly what I was saying in my post on the other page.
The Naniwa as of late, 2014 have been utterly miserable and I wont let that overshadow what he have done before that.
The curse is real
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#65
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#66
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#67
Good to see this thread doesn't get that much attention. People grow tired of his shit over the years. But hey, at least he took a free hotel room, wasted a spot and everybodys time. A great day for him.

Sad kid, go away. Thanks.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#68
On March 15 2014 01:54 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.

Polt used the exact same SCV scouting path he used in IEM Cologne. The odds of a soundproofing issue tipping him off are slim to none.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#69
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#70
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#71
I've always tried to see stuff like this from Naniwa's point of view. All his other stuff I've always been able to understand (exepct the probe pull incident, didn't like that). This is just too far though, he hasn't played a ladder game in over a month, hence the proxy strat (exactly the same 'over as quickly as possible BS we saw in his WCS group) and he actually blames the soundproofing? If you're going to do that don't announce to the world you're done with SC2 before the tournament.

All I can say is I'm completely indifferent to him leaving SC2. Many other pros have left/retired which I have been pretty torn up about, but with Naniwa I really just don't care.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#72
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...

Apparently they are, cf Kennigit. and players from the LoL pro where they have 6x the audience.
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
March 14 2014 16:56 GMT
#73
Honestly I hope this post doesn't get me banned because I love TL but seriously he is acting like an ungrateful pissant. Even if you felt like things were being heard giving polt an edge then alwel just play out the series for the people. Don't be such a douche and atleast play it out for the fans..... people did come to see good games played......

Honestly if he treats the rest of his life like this i'm sure his life will fall apart because he seems to have no drive , honor , or respect for anything or anyone....
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#74
well thats classy
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#75
these kind of players are backstabbing the esports industry. sponsors must stop contracting them, and tournaments must stop inviting them.

Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#76
On March 15 2014 01:56 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.


Tarnishing decades of a distinguished career in the most important tournament in the world because someone called your mother a whore is kind of a cry baby attitude. Kick the shit into the guy when you're off the pitch
braller
Profile Joined January 2013
96 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#77
On March 15 2014 01:56 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


At least Zidane did this for a reason, not because he was a crybaby.


I'd say it's pretty analogous, in that both cases involved wild overreactions to minor bad things.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 14 2014 16:57 GMT
#78
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...

No booth is sound proof. Headphones are sound dampening, but nothing can block all incoming noise.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
March 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#79
So appropriate right before NaniWAHWAHs exit from SC2

I'll be happy to see players like this gone.

Sucks to see people actually blaming IEM for this.
SCV good to go sir
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 17:31:50
March 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#80
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...


It is right on the front page news LR thread.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 45 46 47 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 285
OGKoka 243
UpATreeSC 157
ProTech144
IndyStarCraft 110
BRAT_OK 99
elazer 74
SKillous 39
JuggernautJason34
MindelVK 17
EmSc Tv 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 134
nyoken 48
Dota 2
qojqva1720
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m1919
pashabiceps1176
adren_tv74
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu309
Other Games
tarik_tv4281
Grubby3301
singsing1949
Beastyqt867
ToD173
ArmadaUGS144
Sick130
RotterdaM126
C9.Mang094
Trikslyr78
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL291
Other Games
BasetradeTV104
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 8
EmSc2Tv 8
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 73
• Reevou 15
• HeavenSC 8
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV293
• lizZardDota243
League of Legends
• Nemesis5022
• TFBlade925
Other Games
• imaqtpie883
• Shiphtur287
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 16m
The PondCast
14h 16m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
OSC
2 days
SC Evo Complete
2 days
DaveTesta Events
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.