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NaNiwa forfeits mid-series at IEM Katowice - Page 6

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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 14 2014 17:07 GMT
#101
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...

Pls don't insult our legend by comparing him to Naniwa :p
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 14 2014 17:07 GMT
#102
what a blunder
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 14 2014 17:07 GMT
#103
On March 15 2014 02:02 Advantageous wrote:
NaNiWa the best foreigner regardless of what all of you haters say.


Being good and being a decent person, good sport, or genuinely fine human being are all separate things.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 14 2014 17:07 GMT
#104
Good time for retirement and ESL should ban him for a season or two just to make sure.
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
March 14 2014 17:08 GMT
#105
Naniwa such a goddess <3

He probably blamed the crowd, its happened before a few times during large crowds, cheese getting crowd sensed, he was already angry at the game obviously and wasn't having fun and was just doing this tournament because he felt some obligation. His forfeiting, he probably was going to probe rush or do that, I would rather see what he did instead.

Anyway Naniwa's pretty much retired, its interesting to compare Stephano with Naniwa, Stephano hated the game too but he broke ties with his fans in a respectful and happy way, its just a shame Naniwa might not get that chance.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
March 14 2014 17:08 GMT
#106
On March 15 2014 02:01 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:58 digmouse wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...


It is right on the front page news.

Polt also used the same scouting pattern at IEM Cologne. It's a pretty normal thing for him.


Plus it is reasonable that Polt would expect some proxy bullshit from a guy who hadn't practiced in a month or so.

Good riddance to Naniwa. People say he's still better than IdrA when it comes to BM, but IdrA at least took some time to produce some content for the community (taking part in shows, writing articles, etc.). Nani's always been just a douchebag.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
LibertyRises
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States175 Posts
March 14 2014 17:08 GMT
#107
Polt: Nani... why such a bitch?
Polt: Nani... why such a bitch?
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
March 14 2014 17:09 GMT
#108
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.

paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
March 14 2014 17:09 GMT
#109
In this world vs Naniwa thing, im going to take naniwas side, as ever.

He is a perfectionist, there was something he didn't like. He chose not to tolerate it.

It was his choice to make and he earned that spot. I understand the hate, but I am not going to take any part in it.

Best of luck Nani in whatever you choose to do. You will be missed.
Lt.Roosevelt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden84 Posts
March 14 2014 17:10 GMT
#110
Haha Nani! I mean sorry to Hasuobs or whoever would have gotten his spot, but people in esports get so butthurt over nothing. Anyway, hope Polt beasts it up and wins!
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
March 14 2014 17:11 GMT
#111
On March 15 2014 01:55 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.

Polt used the exact same SCV scouting path he used in IEM Cologne. The odds of a soundproofing issue tipping him off are slim to none.


That's fine...Like I said (or didn't say) I didn't actually watch the games...I don't watch anything SC2 related anymore. But the point I'm trying to make, I guess, is that anyone who is complaining about missed opportunity and that Naniwa's a "waste of space," or "disgrace,"

A. Doesn't understand how seeding works.
B. Doesn't understand Naniwa.

He has ALWAYS played for nobody but himself. What the fuck guys, don't expect him to start catering to the demands of the audience. At least he has the balls to do what he means to do and do it immediately instead of holding on and slowly dying (ahem)...

Who knows, he might come back. He might not. But I think the whines that it wasn't sportsmanlike are unwarranted. I mean, if you want to make a huff about that, okay...but just like Naniwa...it's just not worth the effort.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Neptooon
Profile Joined November 2013
Estonia7 Posts
March 14 2014 17:11 GMT
#112
I hope Naniwa recovers. People who dislike him because of this were clearly never real fans of him. Naniwa was never one to play meaningless matches "to show good games". This is exactly the same reason why he probe rushed Nestea - his fate was sealed, so there was no reason to play out the matches. Personally I can only blame him for not forfeiting before the event.

People really should stop kicking him while he's down. Would playing two absolutely meaningless maps really make you feel any different? What's sickening is that a lot of the people who are saying these horrible things about Naniwa were surely going "HURR DURR KING IN THE NORTH" while he was winning.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 17:12 GMT
#113
On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.


There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 14 2014 17:12 GMT
#114
lol naniwa
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
March 14 2014 17:14 GMT
#115
On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.


There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more.


With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
March 14 2014 17:14 GMT
#116
Poor nani Was always a fan sad to see him go.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 17:15:47
March 14 2014 17:15 GMT
#117
On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.


There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more.


And even when it´s true... You don´t pull a proxy when you know the crowd would make "noises" right? That would be really... stupid.
invisible tetris level master
Shortizz
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore129 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 17:20:11
March 14 2014 17:16 GMT
#118
How anyone can keep defending him after all these incidents is baffling. Really need to step out of the fanboy state and you`ll see how this person is bad for any sports event. This isnt any online qualifier, i mean first the GSL then this?

I hope ESL bans him.

Oh ya, to the swede fans defending him. I think his actions is more of an insult to YOU than ESL or other viewers. You cheer him on to play sc2, not walk away like that. Just think about it.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 17:17:56
March 14 2014 17:16 GMT
#119
Crawls out of the game with a whimper. What a self-indulgent prat. Pathetic.
KT best KT ~ 2014
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
March 14 2014 17:16 GMT
#120
On March 15 2014 02:07 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 02:02 Advantageous wrote:
NaNiWa the best foreigner regardless of what all of you haters say.


Being good and being a decent person, good sport, or genuinely fine human being are all separate things.

this. and being a pro gamer means that you should try to be good sport. nani isnt and will never be. thank god that we dont have to see again for now.
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