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NaNiwa forfeits mid-series at IEM Katowice - Page 5

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Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
March 14 2014 16:59 GMT
#81
Ok, so was making mocking the fans and organisers stating how he didn’t practice, then tries to cheese his way out of a game and blames it on soundproofing? I hope he gets fined by both Alliance and IEM.
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
chaos021
Profile Joined March 2012
United States258 Posts
March 14 2014 17:00 GMT
#82
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...


Whatever. That headbutt was epic!

I feel for Naniwa to an extent. There are problems with some of these major events, and they are well-known by players. They mostly affect all of them the same so you should play accordingly. It doesn't make sense that this sort of stuff should actually make decisions for you strategy-wise, but it does.

I'm just curious: do most of you that are crapping on his attitude actually recognize his skill? I personally believe that he is an amazing player (and not for a foreigner). I truly believe that if he could've gotten into proleague and made some magic happen within a year.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 14 2014 17:01 GMT
#83
On March 15 2014 01:59 Zax19 wrote:
Ok, so was making mocking the fans and organisers stating how he didn’t practice, then tries to cheese his way out of a game and blames it on soundproofing? I hope he gets fined by both Alliance and IEM.


rofl, he's giving IEM and Alliance exposure and this is eSports not real sports where people actually get punishments for doing stupid shit like this.
In Inca we trust
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 17:01 GMT
#84
On March 15 2014 01:58 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...


It is right on the front page news.

Polt also used the same scouting pattern at IEM Cologne. It's a pretty normal thing for him.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 17:03:42
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#85
If it really was soundproofing, he was stupid to go proxy in a crowd that is well known for its great cheers. But I bet it wasn't a soundproofing issue. I'd love to have Polt's honest opinion on that.

Naniwa, please do not return to this game, ever.

Edit: just remove this from the news section, Naniwa doesn't deserve this exposure, seriously. It's like putting a car crash on a newspaper headline.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#86
I wish he had played the series, lost 3-0 (most likely) and then in an interview saying that the booths aren't fully soundproof. Would have been a much classier way of going out, but Naniwa wasn't known for taking the classy way out.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#87
Thats a nice side effect of having a tournament that only gives out cash for the winner.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#88
On March 15 2014 02:01 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:59 Zax19 wrote:
Ok, so was making mocking the fans and organisers stating how he didn’t practice, then tries to cheese his way out of a game and blames it on soundproofing? I hope he gets fined by both Alliance and IEM.


rofl, he's giving IEM and Alliance exposure and this is eSports not real sports where people actually get punishments for doing stupid shit like this.

I wouldn't say he's giving positive exposure to Alliance and his sponsors...
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#89
On March 15 2014 01:58 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:56 Big-t wrote:
WTF IEM is really not soundproof? Can´t believe there are still tournaments who can´t fix this problems :/ embarrassing...

https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444504656551882752
It is right on the front page news.

I remember when people got upset in a SLTV (8 i think) between Alliance and NaVi, NaVi killed some hero that was holding a gem, they seem to have forget it, but the crowd (that was obiously cheering for NaVi, the are ukranians at the end), yell "GEM" and Puppey (i think) picked it...

people actually got quite upset here in TL for that, and for a good reason, it wasnt a really big problem (the match wasnt going to be won by Alliance because of that) but still
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#90
Disgusting.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#91
On March 15 2014 01:54 JustPassingBy wrote:
Wow, this reminds me of Zidane during the world cup...

Zidane was epic though. Nani whined about everything, probably even the colour of the sky.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
March 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#92
NaNiWa the best foreigner regardless of what all of you haters say.
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
I_love_sharkpeople
Profile Joined October 2013
United States253 Posts
March 14 2014 17:03 GMT
#93
What a disappointing, shitty way to end your career. An absolute self-destruct. I'll always respect his accomplishments and skills, but I can't respect him as a competitor.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 14 2014 17:03 GMT
#94
On March 15 2014 02:02 Nightwishone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 02:01 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:59 Zax19 wrote:
Ok, so was making mocking the fans and organisers stating how he didn’t practice, then tries to cheese his way out of a game and blames it on soundproofing? I hope he gets fined by both Alliance and IEM.


rofl, he's giving IEM and Alliance exposure and this is eSports not real sports where people actually get punishments for doing stupid shit like this.

I wouldn't say he's giving positive exposure to Alliance and his sponsors...


Never said it was positive, companies like this don't care about that as much as the views, ad revenue, etc.
In Inca we trust
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States435 Posts
March 14 2014 17:03 GMT
#95
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.



It's people like you that make the community trash. Look at what you said, you are the epitome of human garbage.

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lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
March 14 2014 17:04 GMT
#96
On March 15 2014 01:55 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:54 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:46 emythrel wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 Qwyn wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:32 Hextor wrote:
I feel bad for the wasted slot. Others would've been so grateful for this chance. The booing was well deserved.


I don't understand this line of reasoning. He earned the slot.

He...earned the slot.

Earned it.

I totally understand his falling out (I went through it to!) with SC2; and I'm glad that Naniwa has the balls to act according to his own impulses instead of holding on to something that he hates because others demand or expect it of him.

It's not a good riddance, it's a heartfelt goodbye to someone who is very often misunderstood. And...

He earned the slot.


He earned the slot, didn't want to play but went anyway. Who cares if he earned it, he didn't deserve it as he has barely played in a month and was probably going to find a way to end the series fast no matter what. If soundproofing is such an issue, where are the other pros lining up to defend him?


All of that is besides the point...Doesn't matter how much or how little he played...
The concept of debating whether or not "someone deserves "it" is pointless. He earned that slot. How else is he there? It's not the open bracket, he got there because he won before...

What he did in the tourney...in the end a loss is a loss. Why try to hide that he wants to leave and just get it over with? The point is that he isn't acting beneath the lense of "what would everyone who is watching me want?" Because that actually doesn't matter in the slightest.

I don't know if you've noticed...but Naniwa does not play for anyone but himself. He played to win.

And now he doesn't feel like trying anymore. Would a genuine loss to Polt make you feel better? It's like 30 more minutes of time dude. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

And the booths? Who knows, it might be a genuine complaint...Naniwa for one doesn't give a shit.

Polt used the exact same SCV scouting path he used in IEM Cologne. The odds of a soundproofing issue tipping him off are slim to none.


Only it seemed he went for reaper opening so u wont have to use scv for scouting. Not too slim when you think about it.
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Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
March 14 2014 17:05 GMT
#97
On March 15 2014 02:02 Advantageous wrote:
NaNiWa the best foreigner regardless of what all of you haters say.

He had the skill, for sure. I did my best to try liking him, too, but to no avail.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
March 14 2014 17:06 GMT
#98
On March 15 2014 02:03 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:39 SixStrings wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 Teoita wrote:
Pretty asshole move of him to forfeit like this and not give his spot to Hasu tbh


How does make him an asshole?

I agree that he went out in a shitty way, but if I were in his stead, I certainly wouldn't give up on my salary for attendance out of charity. He probably made more money this weekend than Hasu makes in a year.

And let's not delude ourselves thinking for a second that Hasuobs would have had any higher chance of taking a map from Polt than an apathetic Naniwa who forfeits after game one.



It's people like you that make the community trash. Look at what you said, you are the epitome of human garbage.

he's right tho
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eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
March 14 2014 17:07 GMT
#99
Really guys, as multiple people have stated on reddit and in the LR thread, even if the booth was not soundproof, that had nothing to do with what actually happened. Polt had already sent his SCV out to scout and did not change the pattern at all when the crowd started to make noise.
lyxarn
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden65 Posts
March 14 2014 17:07 GMT
#100
Rather than just quit he adresses problems atleast. ESL won't change the booths since everyone is unlegitimizing Naniwa and his claims. The players want the best scene more than anyone and the ones who dare to be vocal are being shot down.
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