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KT vs. SKT - Proleague Round 1 Finals - Page 4

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Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
February 11 2014 10:16 GMT
#61
Why do zergs get SO MANY corruptors?
Because they're a shitty unit, so the number seems necessary. >_<
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Quixotic_tv
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany130 Posts
February 11 2014 11:19 GMT
#62
Could someone tell me what PartinG wrote?

Thx in advance.
Life always finds a way.
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria167 Posts
February 11 2014 11:26 GMT
#63
Zest powned hard the so called dream team of SKT..I hope next time we get more exciting matches. Z
It's about time.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
February 11 2014 11:26 GMT
#64
Lol KT didn't even break a sweat.
rly ?
misspoo
Profile Joined December 2012
France63 Posts
February 11 2014 11:30 GMT
#65
A clean victory. Yesterday was a funny day.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
February 11 2014 11:34 GMT
#66
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_2

When you look at the round 2 of the Proleague it seems that they are planning on using the same maps. Is it confirmed or will the Kespa make the usual map rotation ?
rly ?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
February 11 2014 11:35 GMT
#67
On February 11 2014 20:34 algue wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Proleague/Round_2

When you look at the round 2 of the Proleague it seems that they are planning on using the same maps. Is it confirmed or will the Kespa make the usual map rotation ?

they probably will - last year at the beginning of the round it seemed like they had set maps all the way, too, but they changed it
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
February 11 2014 11:44 GMT
#68
On February 11 2014 20:19 papalion wrote:
Could someone tell me what PartinG wrote?

Thx in advance.

Nothing. That was the automated "PartinG has not rebuilt their base and is being revealed" message.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
February 11 2014 11:53 GMT
#69
This format is stupid, SKT had to play 3 matches in a row within 3 days whilst KT has all the time to prepare and analyse SKT's games. Too much of an advantage to the team that finishes in 1st place and is seeded into the round final and seriously just makes playoffs pointless...
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 11 2014 11:54 GMT
#70
I rooted for KT. I like more of their players. I liked their previous performances in proleague. I liked their Terran.

Then Zest came with a push broom gripped in two hands. He swept up the first three games. SKT players were on their backsides all across the stage struggling to get up in a daze.

Then I started rooting against KT in game 4. Lose a game so I can see a darn terran staying up until 4 am for these epic finals. Don't lose the entire set, just lose a game. Show me a Flash or TY.

Ended up hating KT. That'll last through tomorrow. Then back to KT fighting!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44312 Posts
February 11 2014 11:56 GMT
#71
On February 11 2014 20:54 Danglars wrote:
I rooted for KT. I like more of their players. I liked their previous performances in proleague. I liked their Terran.

Then Zest came with a push broom gripped in two hands. He swept up the first three games. SKT players were on their backsides all across the stage struggling to get up in a daze.

Then I started rooting against KT in game 4. Lose a game so I can see a darn terran staying up until 4 am for these epic finals. Don't lose the entire set, just lose a game. Show me a Flash or TY.

Ended up hating KT. That'll last through tomorrow. Then back to KT fighting!

Felt the same thing.
this is a quote
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 12:06:14
February 11 2014 12:04 GMT
#72
On February 11 2014 20:53 Khai wrote:
This format is stupid, SKT had to play 3 matches in a row within 3 days whilst KT has all the time to prepare and analyse SKT's games. Too much of an advantage to the team that finishes in 1st place and is seeded into the round final and seriously just makes playoffs pointless...


Its true KT can analyze SKT1, but they can't really prepare specifically for them except with 1 day of advanced notice. The only thing KT could do is just focus on the fundamentals up until they know for sure who their adversary will be.

The preparation part also didn't even fully come into play, usually you analyze each player and map and determine the most likely order in which they come out and you plan snipers for specific MUs and maps, however KT didn't even need to rely on that since everybody just died to Zest. Now Zest could likely have been prepared to face a protoss on the first map, but after that its all up in the air who he faces and he has to adapt on the fly.

Its SKT1's fault for not having a strong sniper specifically for Zest or his fault for not really doing his job and killing Zest.

Now if SKT1 are sloppy enough to not change up their strategies after having played so many games its their fault and they deserved what happened to them.

Also, Flawless Victory!!!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2073 Posts
February 11 2014 12:09 GMT
#73
Hope Flash can put up a good fight against Parting and Soulkey....
Oppa feeding style
eonrulz
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 11 2014 12:17 GMT
#74
While newcomers to Proleague might look at Zest's 2-4 record and scoff, SKT fans are looking at him and already wondering what kind of b***shit he's going to pull off in this match before going on to suck in round 2 (they're getting angry right now, imagining this in their heads).


Well this turned out to be quite prophetic.
Boop!
prOPOns
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
Germany60 Posts
February 11 2014 12:37 GMT
#75
fuck
★ Kim Taek Yong <3 ★ SKT1.PartinG <3 ★ SKT1.Classic ★ CJ.Sora ★ EG.Jaedong ★
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
February 11 2014 13:10 GMT
#76
On February 11 2014 21:04 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 20:53 Khai wrote:
This format is stupid, SKT had to play 3 matches in a row within 3 days whilst KT has all the time to prepare and analyse SKT's games. Too much of an advantage to the team that finishes in 1st place and is seeded into the round final and seriously just makes playoffs pointless...


Its true KT can analyze SKT1, but they can't really prepare specifically for them except with 1 day of advanced notice. The only thing KT could do is just focus on the fundamentals up until they know for sure who their adversary will be.

The preparation part also didn't even fully come into play, usually you analyze each player and map and determine the most likely order in which they come out and you plan snipers for specific MUs and maps, however KT didn't even need to rely on that since everybody just died to Zest. Now Zest could likely have been prepared to face a protoss on the first map, but after that its all up in the air who he faces and he has to adapt on the fly.

Its SKT1's fault for not having a strong sniper specifically for Zest or his fault for not really doing his job and killing Zest.

Now if SKT1 are sloppy enough to not change up their strategies after having played so many games its their fault and they deserved what happened to them.

Also, Flawless Victory!!!


I don't think it works that simply for progamers, KT have watched all the SKT vs Jin Air, SKT vs Samsung games thus had the opportunity to prepare against any practiced builds or recent style shown in general. SKT doesn't have that resource as KT didn't need to play, furthermore their focus would be on Jin Air and then Samsung. At top pro level preparation against specific styles are very important, i.e. a lot of players have rather obvious styles Rain's safe macro play with harassment, Roro's Corruptor and Swarm Host turtling style. Having been able to watch and then prepare for that makes a difference.

True Zest was amazing to win an all kill but he would've also had more time to prepare and more resources for reference thus would've had an edge also KT would've had the advantage of preparing for either SKT or Samsung since yesterday whereas SKT with a match against Samsung would no doubt only focus on preparing against Samsung. The simplest way to think about it was SKT had no time or very recent games of Zest to analyse and prepare for whereas Zest would've had plenty of information and thus will have an easier time preparing, also more time given they didn't have to play a match. (My theory is that SKT prepares for Samsung 100% before yesterday whereas KT can be preparing for either with 50% to each and will not have the other finalist with preparation against them)

Sorry for wall of text, TLDR I'm trying to say that at pro level it's different and preparation is important, slightest time and information advantage will give an important edge to any match.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
February 11 2014 13:16 GMT
#77
Any one who has read interviews or has a modicum of common sense would know that Progamers prepare for 1-2 games max in AK format. Zest prepared a build for the first game and probably had a few ideas depending on who came out for the second, but no way he would have anticipated the third or fourth; he winged them. SKT lost not because they had a lack of preparation, but because they were the inferior team and hence destined to be Silver KT.

Geez, people need to stop finding excuses for everything that doesn't go their way.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 14:44:58
February 11 2014 14:28 GMT
#78
On February 11 2014 14:23 Scarecrow wrote:
Zest all-kill incoming, assuming he can take Soulkey. KT hwaiting!

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 14:07 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Spoilers on the first page of TL. So sad. Just watched Soulkey vs Reality.

Or just don't look at the front page of a news site, that always features recent results, before watching the vods

This mofo. SO DAMN ACCURATE

On February 11 2014 22:16 Pangpootata wrote:
Any one who has read interviews or has a modicum of common sense would know that Progamers prepare for 1-2 games max in AK format. Zest prepared a build for the first game and probably had a few ideas depending on who came out for the second, but no way he would have anticipated the third or fourth; he winged them. SKT lost not because they had a lack of preparation, but because they were the inferior team and hence destined to be Silver KT.

Geez, people need to stop finding excuses for everything that doesn't go their way.


This is what players who know they'll get sent out do:

Player 1 practices for Maps 1-4, Player 2s play Maps 2-7, 3s play 3-7 and 4 play 4-7. He has to practice 10 match-ups in case of random snipes; but will probably need to only focus on 6-7 because of map rotation.

Wooki trained hard to get that all-kill. Give your boy his due.

Edit: OH CRAP Double-Post. Should've quoted this instead in this post
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 14:44:30
February 11 2014 14:38 GMT
#79
Edit: Removed double-post consolidated in earlier post instead!
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Pegas
Profile Joined April 2012
Romania211 Posts
February 11 2014 15:36 GMT
#80
༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ THE POWER OF PROTOSS ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ

Seriously not a single Terran made me cry (so wanted to see Flash or TY).

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