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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
February 04 2014 15:29 GMT
#101
On February 04 2014 13:05 Yorkie wrote:
Oh man poke the dragon and he shall awaken. Let's go Flash!


Let us hope! Flash beating Jaedong in a final would be awesome to see.


A lot of people here doesn't seem to realize that it isn't JD's decision to play in WCS AM instead of GSL, it's EG's decision, most likely. :/
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 04 2014 15:33 GMT
#102
On February 04 2014 22:21 Tchado wrote:
Maybe if JD grows some balls and plays in WCS Korea or the GSL , then he might have the right to call out Flash , until then , Flash is the superior player.


lol, so it is JD fault for Flash taking the 'safe' route by getting good salary from KT while not being sent to foreign events and doing poorly in KR individual leagues?

If Flash had 'balls', he would demand that KT send him to foreign events.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
February 04 2014 15:34 GMT
#103
On February 05 2014 00:29 Darkdwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 13:05 Yorkie wrote:
Oh man poke the dragon and he shall awaken. Let's go Flash!


A lot of people here doesn't seem to realize that it isn't JD's decision to play in WCS AM instead of GSL, it's EG's decision, most likely. :/


Actually you don´t know that, so a lot of people just don´t like baseless speculation, most likely.

If only...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 04 2014 15:37 GMT
#104
On February 04 2014 14:13 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 13:48 Kon-Tiki wrote:
On February 04 2014 13:31 dgwow wrote:
Sounds like JD just realized something that we've all known for a long time. It's hard for Flash to do much though when the state of terran is not so great... Maybe they could face off in a game of Starbow?

However, this article makes me happy!


Flash's slump has less to do with the state of Terran (although I'm not denying that it has nothing to do with it) and more to do with the fact that even as compared to other Terrans, Flash is really struggling right now


He's trying to find his identity I think, Flash is really stubborn some times and will play one strategy forever even if he gets hard countered by other playstyles or if it doesn't suit him.


So basically you are saying he is bad unless the meta suits him...
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 04 2014 15:49 GMT
#105
On February 05 2014 00:33 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 22:21 Tchado wrote:
Maybe if JD grows some balls and plays in WCS Korea or the GSL , then he might have the right to call out Flash , until then , Flash is the superior player.


lol, so it is JD fault for Flash taking the 'safe' route by getting good salary from KT while not being sent to foreign events and doing poorly in KR individual leagues?

If Flash had 'balls', he would demand that KT send him to foreign events.

He was sent to 2 foreign events since september and he tried to qualify for 2 more (IEMs).
I think we will see Flash in foreign events this year too, the problem is he is not good enough to do well.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 15:53:42
February 04 2014 15:50 GMT
#106
On February 04 2014 21:24 Grixx wrote:
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On February 04 2014 13:04 NeXSC2 wrote:
How about JD participates in proleague just like LiquidHero. Right?

Not that easy, TL have an agreement with IM so that HerO can play in Proleague, don't think EG has any agreements with Korean teams so if JD want's to play in Proleague, EG needs to find a team for him.


Why would he want to play in PL? Sorry to all the hardcore BW guys, but PL just isn't what it was in SC2 compare to BW. It isn't the be all and end all. I am not saying that PL isn't significant. But it isn't THE tournament anymore. So maybe KT needs to be like CJ and send their players to foreign events. Or maybe Flash can actually win one of the qualifiers.

It is funny that people are claiming that JD is taking the easy way when Flash is taking the financially easily way by stay on KT and not demanding them to send him to foreign events.

This is the same as when people claim the ex-BW pros like Mvp, MC were taking the 'easy' way by winning in SC2 when they couldn't make it in BW. In fact, it was the BW pros that took the 'safer' way with their regular salary compare to korean SC2 pros which were not given salary. So in fact, it was the Flash, JD, BIsu of the world that didn't have any 'balls' and just wanted their high salaries.

So no, Flash doesn't have 'balls' because he is staying in KR. He HAS to stay in KR because his team sponsors (KT Rolster) gains the most from him staying in KR. KT Rolster doesn't need a foreign market because they are a domestic telecom company.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 04 2014 15:51 GMT
#107
On February 05 2014 00:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 00:33 vthree wrote:
On February 04 2014 22:21 Tchado wrote:
Maybe if JD grows some balls and plays in WCS Korea or the GSL , then he might have the right to call out Flash , until then , Flash is the superior player.


lol, so it is JD fault for Flash taking the 'safe' route by getting good salary from KT while not being sent to foreign events and doing poorly in KR individual leagues?

If Flash had 'balls', he would demand that KT send him to foreign events.

He was sent to 2 foreign events since september and he tried to qualify for 2 more (IEMs).
I think we will see Flash in foreign events this year too, the problem is he is not good enough to do well.


They could have sent to him to open bracket at San Paulo, or do you think trot is better than Flash?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 04 2014 15:55 GMT
#108
On February 05 2014 00:51 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 00:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 05 2014 00:33 vthree wrote:
On February 04 2014 22:21 Tchado wrote:
Maybe if JD grows some balls and plays in WCS Korea or the GSL , then he might have the right to call out Flash , until then , Flash is the superior player.


lol, so it is JD fault for Flash taking the 'safe' route by getting good salary from KT while not being sent to foreign events and doing poorly in KR individual leagues?

If Flash had 'balls', he would demand that KT send him to foreign events.

He was sent to 2 foreign events since september and he tried to qualify for 2 more (IEMs).
I think we will see Flash in foreign events this year too, the problem is he is not good enough to do well.


They could have sent to him to open bracket at San Paulo, or do you think trot is better than Flash?

I don't say they could not, fact is they don't and we don't know why exactly.
It is weird to say flash should demand it, i don't think that is how it works.

Your statement that the BW pros didn't have the balls to switch to sc2 makes very little sense, i mean there has to be some motiviation to do so, and "having balls" is surely not one of them.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
February 04 2014 16:01 GMT
#109
I honestly think that Flash and JD are very equal at this point, it's just that JD is farming foreign tournements and that makes him look better.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 04 2014 16:06 GMT
#110
On February 05 2014 01:01 Fus wrote:
I honestly think that Flash and JD are very equal at this point, it's just that JD is farming foreign tournements and that makes him look better.

Yeah I think so too. Plus given the general metagame, there is always that one matchup every Terran looks crap at, except maybe Maru. That doesn't help your overall skill perception.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
February 04 2014 16:06 GMT
#111
JD would win hands down. Sorry Flash!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 16:15:15
February 04 2014 16:11 GMT
#112
On February 05 2014 00:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 00:51 vthree wrote:
On February 05 2014 00:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 05 2014 00:33 vthree wrote:
On February 04 2014 22:21 Tchado wrote:
Maybe if JD grows some balls and plays in WCS Korea or the GSL , then he might have the right to call out Flash , until then , Flash is the superior player.


lol, so it is JD fault for Flash taking the 'safe' route by getting good salary from KT while not being sent to foreign events and doing poorly in KR individual leagues?

If Flash had 'balls', he would demand that KT send him to foreign events.

He was sent to 2 foreign events since september and he tried to qualify for 2 more (IEMs).
I think we will see Flash in foreign events this year too, the problem is he is not good enough to do well.


They could have sent to him to open bracket at San Paulo, or do you think trot is better than Flash?

I don't say they could not, fact is they don't and we don't know why exactly.
It is weird to say flash should demand it, i don't think that is how it works.

Your statement that the BW pros didn't have the balls to switch to sc2 makes very little sense, i mean there has to be some motiviation to do so, and "having balls" is surely not one of them.


I understand that that, but players making the same comments about JD playing in PL/KR is just as ridiculous given that he is on EG. What is JD's motivation? PL is no longer 'THE' league in SC2.

I was responding to the OP about JD having to grow balls to play in KR... Then Flash should grow some as well. If he cant do well enough in KR for him to qualify for Blizzcon, maybe he needs to do something different instead of staying in his comfort zone (PL).
Swift118
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom335 Posts
February 04 2014 16:15 GMT
#113
On February 05 2014 01:01 Fus wrote:
I honestly think that Flash and JD are very equal at this point, it's just that JD is farming foreign tournements and that makes him look better.


Yes, they seem to be on a similar level in sc2, but this is e-sports where if you are slightly better than an opponent you are deemed to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
February 04 2014 16:17 GMT
#114
this would be great. I hope they can meet one day at a tournaments final also
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Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
February 04 2014 16:21 GMT
#115
JD saving eSports. The Tyrant is no joke and i am so glad he said this.
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TXRaunchy
Profile Joined June 2013
United States131 Posts
February 04 2014 16:22 GMT
#116
this is like a pay-per-view event. i'd pay to watch!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 16:29:22
February 04 2014 16:26 GMT
#117
On February 05 2014 00:33 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 22:21 Tchado wrote:
Maybe if JD grows some balls and plays in WCS Korea or the GSL , then he might have the right to call out Flash , until then , Flash is the superior player.


lol, so it is JD fault for Flash taking the 'safe' route by getting good salary from KT while not being sent to foreign events and doing poorly in KR individual leagues?

If Flash had 'balls', he would demand that KT send him to foreign events.


Last time I checked, going to AM and getting a good salary from EG while not being sent to Korean tournaments is the safe route, I really don't understand what you are talking about. Are you trying to say that Foreign events are harder than GSL?

On February 05 2014 00:37 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 14:13 Caihead wrote:
On February 04 2014 13:48 Kon-Tiki wrote:
On February 04 2014 13:31 dgwow wrote:
Sounds like JD just realized something that we've all known for a long time. It's hard for Flash to do much though when the state of terran is not so great... Maybe they could face off in a game of Starbow?

However, this article makes me happy!


Flash's slump has less to do with the state of Terran (although I'm not denying that it has nothing to do with it) and more to do with the fact that even as compared to other Terrans, Flash is really struggling right now


He's trying to find his identity I think, Flash is really stubborn some times and will play one strategy forever even if he gets hard countered by other playstyles or if it doesn't suit him.


So basically you are saying he is bad unless the meta suits him...


Shame on players trying to establish their own play style right, Flash is so bad trying to get Mech to work for him in TvZ.
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LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
February 04 2014 16:30 GMT
#118
It would be amazing if flash and jaedong meets at WCS world championship final :DD
Hope that happens FLASH
Known as Miso or LTY
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
February 04 2014 16:36 GMT
#119
On February 05 2014 00:33 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 22:21 Tchado wrote:
Maybe if JD grows some balls and plays in WCS Korea or the GSL , then he might have the right to call out Flash , until then , Flash is the superior player.


lol, so it is JD fault for Flash taking the 'safe' route by getting good salary from KT while not being sent to foreign events and doing poorly in KR individual leagues?

If Flash had 'balls', he would demand that KT send him to foreign events.

Fanboyism aside, there is no debate as to JD having the safer route...
holladoub
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada32 Posts
February 04 2014 16:46 GMT
#120
if this match took place in proleague, flash > jaedong for sure, some of his proleague games have been out of this world, JD hasnt played a terran of flashed caliber in a long time
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