EPTDid WCS Korea get an overall higher prize pool? Or just more to the winner and less to the rest ? Didnt really understand
WCS 2014 - Q&A with Blizzard - Page 2
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Fjodorov
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Did WCS Korea get an overall higher prize pool? Or just more to the winner and less to the rest ? Didnt really understand | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
Like if you fail to get into premier how long time you must wate to get another change? | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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c0olL
129 Posts
On November 21 2013 16:04 Sufinsil wrote: It is ~$66k USD for first place GSL. $25k USD for WCS AM AND KR. Great to hear!  On November 21 2013 16:06 Yakikorosu wrote: No, only NA and EU have the 1 Bo5 challenger league format. KR apparently has 4-player groups in challenger league (like the RO32 and RO16 in Code S) instead of the old hybrid bracket/Up&Down format. sounds awful, i really liked the up&down and code A format. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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c0olL
129 Posts
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VieuxSinge
France231 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
It's a fairness issue, we can't just straight boot them out, right? Oh there's too many Koreans, you're all kicked out. We hope you find a new home somewhere else.' And they have to start from scratch? They could've still kicked everyone out. In every region, every player, everyone starts from zero. Then it's still fair. But' I'm glad they didn't. This will raise the level of play in EU and AM, especiallly with koreans laddering on those servers for the 200 needed wins to participate in the wildcard qualifier. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
I said it in the other thread, but I really hope they will change 3-4 maps per season instead of just 2 | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On November 21 2013 15:12 mrRoflpwn wrote: I think the GSL prize money is wayyyyyyy to top heavy. 70k for first and then 15k for second? wtf. Not even Blizzcon was that brutal. The difference between 1st and 2nd is usually mind games. That seems way too ridiculous imo. It should be more like 60k/25k. Prize pools in general have always been ridiculously top heavy. Look at The International and how $1,000,000 out of the $1,600,000 prize pool was distributed to the champions or how in NASL Seasons 1 and 2 $80,000 out of the $100,000 prize pool was allocated to the top 4 with $40,000 alone going to the winner. This is something which could be fixed in eSports to financially support the underdogs. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On November 22 2013 03:55 HeavenResign wrote: So does this mean the ladder season is going from 8 to 10 weeks to line up with the WCS seasons? If so, maybe 2 new maps every season with 1 new map mid-season would be a good compromise. Yeah that sounds good to me. I think changing three at the same time could be difficult. Three might be okay but probably not four. Mid-season switching I think would be a big benefit. It also reduces the amount of time we'd have to wait to pull a map that's turns out fairly broken. That could allow bigger risks with the maps, as well. Two new per season can't possibly be enough. We'd end up with less than 15 different maps throughout the year inclduding old ones. Maybe closer to 10. A good year should have more like 25 imo. With three seasons and two new maps each it's only six new maps for an entire year. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
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CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
How can you have diverse maps if you pass a rule banning diverse WCS events from using diverse map sets? | ||
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On November 22 2013 19:03 CutTheEnemy wrote: Can't we give some attention to the stale map pool used in Starcraft for the last several years? How can we have an interesting, diverse map pool like Kespa managed in Proleague if we ban interesting, diverse maps that aren't "standard" enough for ladder? How can you have diverse maps if you pass a rule banning diverse WCS events from using diverse map sets? Well we can't just compare it to proleague. That's a team league, and it actually still exists and can do whatever it wants with maps. Team leagues should be doing more diverse things with maps than individual leagues, of course. Having a standard map pool across all normal individual leagues isn't such a bad thing. I took another quick look at some numbers yesterday. If you compare it to some of the big years in BW... yeah, we're talking around 25-30 maps used in competition across a year. But if you cut out team leagues and invitationals it's not as many. In 2007 I counted 16 I think, seven of which had been used in previous years and nine of which were introduced during the year. 08 and 09 are probably more (at least 08) but it would be hard to say matching 07 wouldn't be acceptable, at least for 2014 considering where we've been in previous years of SC2. I think the amount of new maps introduced is probably the number to look at here so that's only nine in a year, meaning we'd need three new maps per season to match it. Maybe twelve (four maps per season) would be closer to 08 or 09. A direct comparison doesn't show everything, of course. Even if we introduced three new maps per season, which with seven maps in at a time that's only 13 maps total, not 16, since the ones removed before the first season wouldn't really count as being played that year. That may or may not have been the case for any given tournaments in BW depending on the scheduling and when exactly the maps were switched out and everything... It wasn't a uniform pool and it wasn't lined up directly with the calendar year. Point being we can't really compare those directly, but I thought the numbers could be useful since we're often referring to the BW map pools when asking for more new maps in SC2. Looking at only individual leagues with qualification (the equivalent of what would be restricted to the ladder pool in 2014 I think) helps, and it shows that things aren't actually so bad. Some people are asking for 4-6 new maps per season but that seems like a lot. I think we should push for 3-4. I'd be really happy if we could get three new maps per season this year and see how that goes. Remember proleague and all team leagues can still add their own maps, and I could see Red Bull doing more invitationals with different maps. Edit: Three is still %50 more than two. I'm still complaining. | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
1. Seeing by WCS point rankings (for helping the top players make it through more regularly) 2. Offline Group selections (for entertainment purposes) Also, it would be nice if every tournament that gives WCS points has some sort of WCS rank seeing as well. | ||
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TheMagicianSC2
France74 Posts
Thx blizzard ! hope Sc2 will improve, this is truly the best eSport game | ||
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CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
Some people are asking for 4-6 new maps per season but that seems like a lot. I think we should push for 3-4. I'd be really happy if we could get three new maps per season this year and see how that goes. I think this is a reasonable request. 3-4 new maps per season would be great. Ideally at least one would be non-standard too in some important way. | ||
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