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BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
November 21 2013 08:30 GMT
#481
These are great changes. No complaints. Can't Wait
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
November 21 2013 08:37 GMT
#482
Please OGN, do not discontinue the OSL. I think OSL would still be a fantastic addition to the Korean scene, and I think it'd work great as a tier 1 WCS global event.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 21 2013 08:39 GMT
#483
On November 21 2013 15:41 DinosaurPoop wrote:
Mhm I really would have liked Suppy's suggestion which is to region lock all qualifiers but leave premier and challenger the same. This means more NA players in Challenger which forces the 'muricans to train harder and push the Koreans out while the good Koreans everyone wants to see are still there :D

Americans aren't going to knock Koreans out in Up and Downs though.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 08:43:18
November 21 2013 08:40 GMT
#484
About 50-60 Koreans have already retired.
Region lock = more Koreans retire.
3 GSL for 1 year = way more Koreans retire.
So if a Korean did not qualify for GSL Season 1 he has to suck and do nothing for 2-3 months.
SPL can give him some work but the reward for practicing and playing SPL for young players = almost nothing.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 21 2013 08:46 GMT
#485
On November 21 2013 13:21 XtreMe_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:11 NovemberstOrm wrote:

Therefore seems like we must setup some kind of hit system to knock koreans out slowly but surely. Money rewards or something ;o





Hey Huk - how about you beat them.. With you know, skill.

Such a noob. Feel like Naniwa and Scarlett the only foreigners who take this shit seriously.


Aww... Don't say that. It's not his fault that his gimmicky YOLO-swag gateway attacks don't work anymore </3
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 21 2013 08:59 GMT
#486
Holy Shit that is such good news for Sen!!! Even if he drops out of WCS AM, he will be qualified immediately!!!
TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
November 21 2013 09:00 GMT
#487
I read the analysis but largely skimmed the Q&A

And I have to say, this looks really really good. Although it will always be 'see it then believe it' but I have a good feeling when I look at these formats and rules.

I think my favourite is the globel season finals going away. Even though they produced some good games something just didn't felt right with the (almost always) sudden discrediting of 3 champions.
Which through the volatility of the SC2 scene was to be expected.

Second favourite is definitely more room for partner events.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 21 2013 09:01 GMT
#488
I feel like a lot of people praising the changes don't really understand how it works fully and will change their mind once WCS actually gets started. WCS is going to look almost identical to this years. Not overlapping Challenger and Premier is definitely an obvious good change though, but the EU/AM up and down system is really bad, one BO5 to decide whether you go to premier or not...
HeisenZerg
Profile Joined November 2013
United States7 Posts
November 21 2013 09:02 GMT
#489
I think 2013 was a really good year of Starcraft II. It's only going to get better too. Proleague is right around the corner along with WCS 2014.

Gonna be good times, my friends
www.twitch.tv/m__theory - Proleague starts soon!
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
November 21 2013 09:02 GMT
#490
this sounds...... AWESOME!
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 09:05:45
November 21 2013 09:05 GMT
#491
On November 21 2013 18:02 HeisenZerg wrote:
I think 2013 was a really good year of Starcraft II. It's only going to get better too. Proleague is right around the corner along with WCS 2014.

Gonna be good times, my friends

I do not think the year when about 10 icon players have retired can be called good...
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
November 21 2013 09:06 GMT
#492
I have just received news that the OSL has been discontinued. This is from a reliable Chinese source (s.163.com) which translated the corresponding OGN article.

Seeking confirmation from TL sources.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 09:08:11
November 21 2013 09:07 GMT
#493
Looks nice, all in all!

Edit: would have preferred Challenger league to not be only on Bo5, but can't have it all I guess.
Kheve
Profile Joined May 2013
323 Posts
November 21 2013 09:10 GMT
#494
On November 21 2013 18:06 dyDrawer wrote:
I have just received news that the OSL has been discontinued. This is from a reliable Chinese source (s.163.com) which translated the corresponding OGN article.

Seeking confirmation from TL sources.


OMG nearly 15 years of history ended. This is truly the end of an era if true
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
November 21 2013 09:11 GMT
#495
With the OSL gone, the Korean scene now looks a little bit worrisome. There's nothing to fill the huge gaps between GSL seasons. Proleague and GSTL is not rewarding for new and upcoming players. There's also rumour that OGN will not broadcast this upcoming season of Proleague.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 21 2013 09:15 GMT
#496
Let's see how this plays out instead of predicting stuff
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
November 21 2013 09:24 GMT
#497
I like this !!!! and GSL is back ! 2014 is gonna be goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood ! :D

This might be trivial and not important to most of you but I like the fact that blizzard is recognizing africa/middle east as a region within WCS europe , while I dont believe that players from these regions will emerge into the WCS ( because we suck ) , the fact that blizzard is saying "hey ! work hard and you can play in this league" is definitely a step forward.....who knows what the future holds ?

I am sick and tired of companies claiming "global" e-sports when they just ditch regions like these , even if we are paying customers ! I'm still pissed off because RIOT refused to give WCG Jordan accounts and a tournament realm because and I quote " who gave you the impression that we support countries like Jordan ? " , League of legends is a global e-sport MY ASS ! biggest bullshit I ever heard , last I checked the middle east and africa are a part of the globe.

add to that , it actually adds some inspiration to the players , and a recognizable path to achieve their goals if they are serious enough about it.

So when Blizzard says that WCS is a global tournament , they actually mean it , BLIZZARD FTW !
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 21 2013 09:27 GMT
#498
This looks interesting. I wonder if the 1st prize for GSL isnt a bit to much though? Maybe spread it out a bit more.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
November 21 2013 09:31 GMT
#499
Ahm... is there specified the system how the region locking system would work? I mean the qualification system itself. As I understand top16 from regional qualification has to meet those locking mechanism, but how can they make sure they will? Is this like - hey, I'm 22nd, but what the hell, I'm in because I'm the 1st qualified as a China player?
(I find it pretty clear for EU - top16 has to have 12 from EU and the next 4 players can be from anywhere :>)

And do I understand this correctly, that Forgg or Polt(e.g.) can use the region place instead of ladder wildcard because they do not use visiting visas?(or do they? I don't know how visa thing works, TBH)

And last question - what is the status of mYinsanity players, doesn anyone know?

Thanks for making this clearer for me ^_^
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 21 2013 09:40 GMT
#500
On November 21 2013 18:06 dyDrawer wrote:
I have just received news that the OSL has been discontinued. This is from a reliable Chinese source (s.163.com) which translated the corresponding OGN article.

Seeking confirmation from TL sources.


oh god no :-/

Korea needs more tournaments, not less!

hope a miracle happens, i don't wanna see OSL go away
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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